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Should a Christian tithe, what does the Bible say
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Amen..and nothing goes un noticed to God...
Well if a Christian will give his 10 percent then it should not be compelled or forced by his money hungry pastor.
it must be voluntarily.
2 Corinthians 9:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.
it is also clear in Corinthians that he should give as he purposeth in his hearth.
it means it can be less or more than 10 percent.
you can even give a cent like what we are doing during our Masses.
so those religions who compel to give 10 percent or more and even frighten its members of God's curses of not giving anymore are not of God.
it must be voluntarily.
2 Corinthians 9:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.
it is also clear in Corinthians that he should give as he purposeth in his hearth.
it means it can be less or more than 10 percent.
you can even give a cent like what we are doing during our Masses.
so those religions who compel to give 10 percent or more and even frighten its members of God's curses of not giving anymore are not of God.
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Would you prefer it if I lied to you, instead of speaking the truth and hurting you. If you accepted Gods Word, you would tank me for warning you about your grave errors. "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge", I'm trying to give you some sound advice because I care about you, I don't want to see you go into eternal destruction
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No thanks, I have seen first hand what happens when a person gets lost in their own self appointed wisdom. For all have gone astray, professing themselves to be wise they became fools.
We have 40,000 Christian sects and cults, all wise guys like these here claiming their view is the only truth in town. What a sick and pathetic situation, having millions of fools fooling each other and being fooled. Paul warned us that this would happen, he knew about the depth of depravity of the reprobate
We have 40,000 Christian sects and cults, all wise guys like these here claiming their view is the only truth in town. What a sick and pathetic situation, having millions of fools fooling each other and being fooled. Paul warned us that this would happen, he knew about the depth of depravity of the reprobate
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Yep, I'm not surprised to hear your summary of John. Wow you're pretty smart man, how did you become so wise. You give Solomon a good run for his money, and I thought I'd heard it all then you come and take the cake
you said poverty is for losers.
John lived a life of poverty.
so you either got your foot in your mouth or your outright saying John was in fact following a Satanic gospel.
so which is it?
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Your blind ignorance is actually painful to behold, and your false accusation only exposes the depth of depravity that you have sunk down to.
Now swallow this >>>>>>>>>>>>WHERE DID I SAY POVERTY IS FOR LOSERS LOSER??????
I SAID THE POVERTY GOSPEL IS FOR LOSERS, YOU PREACH POVERTY AS A VIRTUE I SAY LAZINESS IS A SIN THAT LEAVES ON IMPOVERISHED AND YOU COME HERE TRYING TO GLORIFY SINFUL LIFESTYLE. Man you have lost the plot big time, you have swallowed the Satanic gospel hook, line and sinker
Now swallow this >>>>>>>>>>>>WHERE DID I SAY POVERTY IS FOR LOSERS LOSER??????
I SAID THE POVERTY GOSPEL IS FOR LOSERS, YOU PREACH POVERTY AS A VIRTUE I SAY LAZINESS IS A SIN THAT LEAVES ON IMPOVERISHED AND YOU COME HERE TRYING TO GLORIFY SINFUL LIFESTYLE. Man you have lost the plot big time, you have swallowed the Satanic gospel hook, line and sinker
Leviticus 27 seems to suggest to me that Biblically if a tithe is given using $$$ it should be 12%
see this post: https://christianchat.com/threads/should-a-christian-tithe-what-does-the-bible-say.177934/post-3647857
one fifth of the value was to be added if a tithe was paid with money.
i find this is interesting in that regard:
paying a tithe ((which Biblically is livestock and produce)) with money - which can only be done in substitution for such things as fruit, not in substitution for living souls - is connected in the Bible to accidentally damaging a holy thing, such as an offering, and connected to extortion and robbery.
see this post: https://christianchat.com/threads/should-a-christian-tithe-what-does-the-bible-say.177934/post-3647857
one fifth of the value was to be added if a tithe was paid with money.
i find this is interesting in that regard:
If a person acts unfaithfully and sins unintentionally against the LORD’S holy things, then he shall bring his guilt offering to the LORD: a ram without defect from the flock, according to your valuation in silver by shekels, in terms of the shekel of the sanctuary, for a guilt offering. He shall make restitution for that which he has sinned against the holy thing, and shall add to it a fifth part of it and give it to the priest. The priest shall then make atonement for him with the ram of the guilt offering, and it will be forgiven him.
(Leviticus 5:15-16)
(Leviticus 5:15-16)
When a person sins and acts unfaithfully against the LORD, and deceives his companion in regard to a deposit or a security entrusted to him, or through robbery, or if he has extorted from his companion, or has found what was lost and lied about it and sworn falsely, so that he sins in regard to any one of the things a man may do; then it shall be, when he sins and becomes guilty, that he shall restore what he took by robbery or what he got by extortion, or the deposit which was entrusted to him or the lost thing which he found, or anything about which he swore falsely; he shall make restitution for it in full and add to it one-fifth more. He shall give it to the one to whom it belongs on the day he presents his guilt offering.
(Leviticus 6:2-5)
(Leviticus 6:2-5)
paying a tithe ((which Biblically is livestock and produce)) with money - which can only be done in substitution for such things as fruit, not in substitution for living souls - is connected in the Bible to accidentally damaging a holy thing, such as an offering, and connected to extortion and robbery.
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you said it right here:
lazy and poverty are 2 very different things. i know of a bosses nephew that works no more than 10 hours a week, smokes weed at work, never does anything and he will most likely always be wealthy than i will ever be.he is very very very far from poverty.
poverty is a virtue. you give up everything in this life, of this world, and devote everything to the Lord.
if your up to your ears in money and possessions your never going to devote any time to the Lord. your worldly possessions will eventually consume all your time.
lazy and poverty are 2 very different things. i know of a bosses nephew that works no more than 10 hours a week, smokes weed at work, never does anything and he will most likely always be wealthy than i will ever be.he is very very very far from poverty.
poverty is a virtue. you give up everything in this life, of this world, and devote everything to the Lord.
if your up to your ears in money and possessions your never going to devote any time to the Lord. your worldly possessions will eventually consume all your time.
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which, actually you said if you weren't making "lots more" money you are a loser, and implied doom.
so you were kind of saying not just poverty, but middle class too.
'lots more $$$' really kind implies you're position is that only the materially rich are not losers; only the rich are approved by God.
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Dear Sir, please don't be deceived. God doesn't need hippies who can't even feed themselves to build His Kingdom, He needs laborers for the harvest is great but the laborers are few.
He want's people who have earned some serious money to feed the poor and pay for missionaries, a person living in poverty is useless to God. He can't use them for anything, they just place an even greater burden on His people. They represent more mouths to feed.
He want's people who have earned some serious money to feed the poor and pay for missionaries, a person living in poverty is useless to God. He can't use them for anything, they just place an even greater burden on His people. They represent more mouths to feed.
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