If Women Can't Have Authority Over Men in the Church, Why Are They Expected to Teach in School?

The calling of a woman is to become a supporter. While men are to become leaders. A supporter is not an inferior role or a despicable role. God designed the supporter role because man will not be able to fulfill his destiny or the will of God by himself.

In marriage, if the man is worthy, the wife becomes his helper. If he is not worthy, she will be against him. That is why the wife is so loud and becomes a nagger. That is her way of helping the man or reminding the man to fulfill his destiny. That does not necessarily mean that the wife is trying to lead the man. If the wife is not behaving the way God designed her, the husband must evaluate if he is being a worthy leader. If the wife is trying to lead the husband she is not conforming to God's will and the marriage is doomed.

A marriage is just a small institution. If a man can't lead his wife, how can he lead a church? And the wife is subject to the leadership of her husband. So the church is meant to be led by a man in my opinion, since a single woman's capacity to lead a church is most likely questionable.

I think that's correct in that mankind several years back set fort laws that curbed many peoples thinking as to equality in the work places and changed the roles of men and women.

It is interesting to note that it was Paul who said that he does not permit women to speak in church but nowhere does it say that God does not permit it. I believe that Paul was merely stating his personal preference based on the culture and traditions of that era. What is it scripturally, that makes a man eminently more qualified to hold positions of leadership in a church setting than a woman? A lot of Paul's writing is obviously his own personal opinion but perhaps not binding in a spiritual sense in all instances and situations.

Amen and they will know where each others hearts are in that house because they will put the farm set together. She will cook the meals and arrange the pictures on the wall and look at curtains at the mall. He will go to work and make sure the tires are good and the windshield wipers aren't worn out and mow the grass so snakes don't bite the kids .It's simple to tell if ones in love because they wont think about the farm set much and the mower wont matter or the curtains one of the two.

The calling of a woman is to become a supporter. While men are to become leaders. A supporter is not an inferior role or a despicable role. God designed the supporter role because man will not be able to fulfill his destiny or the will of God by himself.

In marriage, if the man is worthy, the wife becomes his helper. If he is not worthy, she will be against him. That is why the wife is so loud and becomes a nagger. That is her way of helping the man or reminding the man to fulfill his destiny. That does not necessarily mean that the wife is trying to lead the man. If the wife is not behaving the way God designed her, the husband must evaluate if he is being a worthy leader. If the wife is trying to lead the husband she is not conforming to God's will and the marriage is doomed.

A marriage is just a small institution. If a man can't lead his wife, how can he lead a church? And the wife is subject to the leadership of her husband. So the church is meant to be led by a man in my opinion, since a single woman's capacity to lead a church is most likely questionable.

Could you unpack that please? I'm not sure that I'm following you. I thought we were talking about roles in the church.

The calling of a woman is to become a supporter. While men are to become leaders. A supporter is not an inferior role or a despicable role. God designed the supporter role because man will not be able to fulfill his destiny or the will of God by himself.

In marriage, if the man is worthy, the wife becomes his helper. If he is not worthy, she will be against him. That is why the wife is so loud and becomes a nagger. That is her way of helping the man or reminding the man to fulfill his destiny.

If the wife is not behaving the way God designed her, the husband must evaluate if he is being a worthy leader.

Please read the linked articles that Magenta posted.


Sorry, but that's utterly ridiculous! She nags because she hasn't learned how to encourage, empower, and edify, and probably hasn't submitted her desires to the Lord, but instead expects her husband to do or deal with everything she finds distressing, "difficult" or distasteful. Nagging is always bad.


That's feminist (anti-biblical) thinking at work, putting the blame for the woman's wrongdoing on the man. If the wife is not behaving the way God designed her, it's her fault, not his. Just like it's the husband's fault if he is not behaving in a godly way. They influence each other, of course, but each is responsible for her or his own sin. When there are problems in a marriage, both should seek the Lord's input and be willing to accept fault.

Sorry, but that's utterly ridiculous! She nags because she hasn't learned how to encourage, empower, and edify, and probably hasn't submitted her desires to the Lord, but instead expects her husband to do or deal with everything she finds distressing, "difficult" or distasteful. Nagging is always bad.

I read what magenta posted about ezer kenegdo. Ezer/helper if worthy. Kenegdo/against if not worthy. If the wife becomes a kenegdo it means something. The wife can be the husband's indicator of his own behavior. Nagging must be the wrong term. It must be reminding. That's why I said if the wife is trying to lead the husband she is not doing her role. Her role is to help, support, remind, nag or whatever term you want.

I think it might be best to examine this on a case by case basis.

I read what magenta posted about ezer kenegdo. Ezer/helper if worthy. Kenegdo/against if not worthy. If the wife becomes a kenegdo it means something. The wife can be the husband's indicator of his own behavior. Nagging must be the wrong term. It must be reminding. That's why I said if the wife is trying to lead the husband she is not doing her role. Her role is to help, support, remind, nag or whatever term you want.

God designed the supporter role because man will not be able to fulfill his destiny or the will of God by himself.

The calling of a woman is to become a supporter.

the wife becomes his helper

That is why the wife is so loud and becomes a nagger

That is her way of helping the man or reminding the man to fulfill his destiny

And the wife is subject to the leadership of her husband.

since a single woman's capacity to lead a church is most likely questionable.

If the wife is trying to lead the husband she is not conforming to God's will and the marriage is doomed.

I don't mean this as a personal attack... Do you argue the same for an abusive husband?

Sorry, but that's utterly ridiculous!

A good wife is like a good mirror to her husband, and vice-versa.

Utterly ridiculously absurd!