Galatian Conundrums

Paul learned the hard way that the grace of God is sufficient. I fully concur with your estimation.

You haven`t a clue what you are talking about. Peter is preaching the kingdom that is coming. The rise of Israel, fulfillment of all of God`s promises to them. Gentiles not invited.

Have you read Acts 10 and 11 lately?

how can some things be so obvious and yet so missed

barns are pretty big

Have you? Acts 10 is about 10 years after Acts 2.

haha

I think that one went past a few people..

If you don't considered salvation as a blessing, then you are splitting hair. I would regard salvation as the ultimate blessing a non Jew can get. Rahab and Ruth certainly benefited from getting that, thru the Jews.

As for your other point, the word gospel simply means good news.

The good news that was preached to Abraham was not the death burial and resurrection of Jesus, as Genesis 12 clearly stated.

When Jesus came to Earth to preach first to the lost sheep of Abraham, his message was "Repent and believe in me as the promised King, and there will be a kingdom on Earth."

I am not telling others to accept what I am saying. I already stated that believing in this distinction is not necessary to be a Christian. You are fine if you don't accept it.

One point I would like to raise where the Bible translates the Greek into this term "all nations". May I suggest that the meaning is not exactly the same when we understood it in English.

Let me give you an example from Luke 2:1 KJV

And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.

Young's version goes

And it came to pass in those days, there went forth a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world be enrolled

I am presenting a view that when we read "all the nations" in the Matthew version of the GC, it may not mean exactly what we think it means in the English. It could point towards "all the known Jews in the Roman Empire".

Of course, you could be correct, I am not denying that possibility. I am saying there could be another possible explanation, that every Jew at that time have a different idea from you about what preaching to "all nations" really meant.

Like I said, its alright if you don't want to accept this, it is not essential to do so to be a Christian. We already had this long debate before in the past here and I certainly have no interest to go thru the same points with you. God Bless.

https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...mission-irrelevant-for-the-church-now.182210/

Why would I ask if you had read a relevant passage of Scripture if I didn't know what it says?

I am showing you you are wrong.
Of course i wont accept it.

You don`t appear to.

Interesting point you have there. Personally, I think by the time Acts 10 arrived, Peter was sensing in his heart that the Jewish nation was not going to ever accept Jesus as their Messiah, with the first martyr Stephen. Thus, the Great Commission that required them to start from Jerusalem was not going to ever be fulfilled by the 12.

And during the time of Acts 10 and 11, when he saw that God began to grant Gentiles salvation without them having to be circumcised like the Jews, he realized the time was indeed up for Israel. Hence he was able to defend Paul's ministry to the Gentiles by the time Acts 15 came along.

Okay, be like that. It only reflects on you.

Like you or any of these others have any room to talk

The persecution in ACTS 8 is the event that closed the door for Israel.

That is incorrect, and the book of Acts shows the reverse. Jerusalem, Judea, and Samaria were covered by the apostles and their companions. Paul covered the Roman empire, and other apostles went to the uttermost parts of the earth.

Luke 24:47

Paul was not raised by God to continue the Great Commission. But I know you will disagree with that, so let's us agree to disagree.

acts 15
And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.

2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.

5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;

9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.


So we see paul and peter at the same meeting with Peter doing the teaching and instructing of the Gospel to the gentiles.

Debunking thoroughly the idea that peter had no revelation concerning the gospel to the gentiles.