Are Women Not Allowed to Preach in Every Case?

I would see that a little differently, you could say the opposite .

Both sides of the new ceremonial law .Mans head uncovered with woman's hair covered and the bread and blood of grapes as one demonstration to the world . . . should be looked at. A beautiful gospel picture the bride of Christ

Some confuse the ceremonial laws "a sign to the whole world" as a cultural foundation or background and therefore destroy the intended purpose like the "time of reformation". A time set aside as a parable. Kings as pagan representative in Israel a abomination of desolation. It was made desolate, destroyed when the veil was rent from the top to the bottom (70 feet)

He gave them that had no faith over to do that which they should not of in their jealousy of the surrounding pagan nations that do walk by sight .(no faith coming as it is written)

The pagan form of government. . . its law of men. Laws of the kings, princes and fathers fell when Jesus said; "it is finished". The promise of Joel at Pentecost. God bringing, moving prophets to declare His gospel as a kingdom of priest .Men and woman from all nations, naming His bride, Christian . . . . . "residents of the heavenly city named after her husband . . God having fulfilled the shadows of most of the old testament prophesies .He designed the new (1 Corinthians 11) . The gospel wedding invitation to the whole world. It is all but faded away .There are a few places that do honor the tradition of the unveiling at the wedding supper . The tradition of God. Not of Paul .

It is not a tradition accredited to those moved to perform as self edification. (signs and wonder seekers) It is the representative glory of the hidden glory a living hope.

When Aaron sons offered strange fire (adding a personal touch self-edification) .They were destroyed, but the ceremonial clothing left intact no smell of death . There is some value in the new ceremonial laws. The wedding invitation. Come before the last day door is closed.

Matthew 22 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said, The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. ...

Yes according to the unseen eternal not the temporal . Jesus said his own flesh it profits for nothing.

I believe you are interpreting that verse incorrectly. Here's a translation that makes it more clear, imo.

"The Spirit alone gives eternal life. Human effort accomplishes nothing."

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+6&version=NLT

Saying the same thing. Jesus said of His own flesh it profits for nothing, zero. Its the unseen eternal that alone can ..

We do not know Christ after the rudiments of this world (see, smell, feel hear) .They the invisible things of him (things of faith) They can direct us towards him if we mix the unseen understanding faithfully. .

2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Romans 1: 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

I disagree that the two translations are saying the same thing.

Flesh is something material: meat, muscle, bone.

Human effort is an abstract concept.


There is value Jesus' flesh.

John 6: 51 The bread which I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.

Titus 2:3-5 ESV / 87 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good, and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled.

One needs to look at the culture of the Bible when applying Scriptural principles to the modern world.
Education of Women back then and today is a big issue.

As a promised temporal demonstration it does profit . But not according to the unseen work of the Father and Son .In that way looking at the corruptible flesh that Jesus inherited from his mother. It does not aid in the power that comes from the hearing of faith. Hearing another's understanding.

The Father unseen pours out the wrath of mankind on the flesh. Weakened the Son cries out and is strengthened by the breath of the Father. His words are Spirit and life giving. .This continues for three days and nights set aside as holy, holy, holy.

Flesh signified as sinful was needed to show the demonstration .It perform what the letter of the law "death" could not . Create new spirit life that will never die .

It helps reconciling the metaphorical phrase; "eat my flesh and drink my blood" .We search for the spirutl understanding in those parables having the tools needed we can look for. How we can drink the blood of men and not violate the law not to drink. . . . . it must be poured out.

The fleshly demonstration surely did profit as sign to the whole world .I would call it the wedding invitation to all the nations. . But like those in John 6 who were informed of. . . drink the blood of men, they walked away in unbelief (no faith) no faith.

Reminded me of a parable or proverb . revealing as one of the better things that accompanny salvation is he gives the honor a desire to seek out his approval.

Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

As a kingdom of priest we can search out that which he does conceal from the temporal things seen .

Flesh needed, yes.

Profit no.

We walk by faith.

Spirit of holiness.

Not flesh of holiness.

Romans 1:3-5 King James Version (KJV) Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:

The fruit of the new spirit working in that older woman teaches the younger. That her and her husband's two fold ministry might be virtuous . One that rules together and not one that lords it over another.

We can plant the born again seed .The mutual Spirit of Christ that indwells the believer he does the teaching and the reminding of what he previously taught. He whose name is Jealous will no share his teaching authority with man seen . Like in the garden .You shall surely die.

Call no man on earth Teacher or Father one is our Lord and master in heaven .

That's incorrect, because it assumes that the older woman is married. That verse says nothing whatsoever about the older women working with their husbands. Your view would make widows and spinsters useless, in contrast to Paul who gives them important and God-ordained purpose in the Church.

You continually stress that Jesus' flesh profits nothing, but you also continually ignore the context in which Jesus spoke those words.

I disagree that the "for life of the world" is a temporal demonstration.

Mary could only have contributed the female part of the genetics of Jesus. The male part would have had to have come miraculously from God in some fashion.

Have to understand sarcasm when you read it

There are no qualifications for women leadership roles in the Church, except one: see Titus 2: 3,4. Teacher roles such as pastors, elders or deacons are not to be occupied by women as taught by Paul in 1 Tim: 11,12. But strong willed women want those positions of leadership over men, and will twist scripture to get them. I have noted at Bible studies that I have attended, that women usually outnumber the men for attendance and zeal, and will step up to the plate if asked. But the Word says no, to all such behaviours for leadership or titles.

Thanks Dino. sorry , I think I was having a bad day.

Mary was the first sent to preach the resurrection and ascension of Jesus Christ , to the men and women who left before she did

“Then the disciples went away again unto their own home.

But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping: and as she wept, she stooped down, and looked into the sepulchre,

…Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.

Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭20:10-11, 16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I am glad I share your view because I’ve known a few women in my life who have taught me thkngs I needed to know before I ever began having an interest in studying myself

every Christian is called to witness the gospel is my firm belief and gifts were poured upon men and women

“And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I think the Doctrine of not allowing women to preach is Paul's invention, and he was a sexist.

I disagree that Paul was sexist. I believe that his writings have been badly misinterpreted by sexists though.

he was not sexist as that is a secular humanistic term. Was it Paul or God who said women have to obey their Husband and placed him over the women? Paul was just saying as He received HIS revelation from Christ in context to a woman having authority over the Church. Yes, they can preach. And women are very good preacher many of them I have met and listen too. Being gifted in preaching is given to women too as the Holy Spirit enables them to do.

Well, there is that school of thought that Genesis 3:16, and any scripture that follows that mentions women is evidence of God's continuing punishment. Eve did not willfully sin, she was deceived.