Are Women Not Allowed to Preach in Every Case?

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I still want someone, anyone, to give me the Name, Address, and name of Pastor, plus contact information of ANY CHURCH that obeys ALL that Paul wrote to the Corinthians............ ANYONE?????
This will not be provided because such a church does not exist.
 
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"continually teach" and "exercise authority" is the line Paul drew.
So for teaching.......as long as its not formal, official or ongoing....yes.
As for exercising authority.....no
I would agree . Like the example of the Noble Bereans . Paul plants the incorruptible seed. God from within moves men to seek his understanding hid form natural man. Giving his new kingdom of priest the honor to seek it out .


Acts 17:10-12 King James Version (KJV) And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.

Without parables like the one below Jesus spoke not to the heart of new creatures according to the good purpose of His will. .

Proverbs 25:1-3 King James Version (KJV) These are also proverbs of Solomon, which the men of Hezekiah king of Judah copied out. It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.
The heaven for height, and the earth for depth, and the heart of kings is unsearchable.


The "golden reed" of measure. The measure of living "faith" not of us.
 

Dino246

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I think you meant "beliefs".... not believes.... and "GODs" should have an apostrophe to read, "GOD's".... There are a few other errors, but I'll stop at these, for now.
Welcome to CC, Jason...
The person to whom you responded posts comments consistently replete with spelling errors. Spare yourself the grief. Some people care and want to learn, while others don't. :)
 

Dino246

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I've already provided a document dealing with that objection. If you don't want to take the time to learn this, its your choice. But don't sit there, unwilling to be teachable, and just tell people their wrong without Scriptural substantiation and unwillingness to study the positions you don't agree with.
How about you rein in the attitude. As the post containing this information was addressed to someone else, I did not read it. Now I have.
 

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How about you rein in the attitude. As the post containing this information was addressed to someone else, I did not read it. Now I have.
How was it addressed at someone else? you were commenting on my post.
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Dino246

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Sometimes, God uses us to deliver His Word Num 22:28. In similar words...what have I done to be struck with such a title?
Instead of providing the link again, you claim only that you have provided it, and you denigrate me for not having read it. Then, when I put in effort to find and read it, you come back with what appears, in context, to be another retort. That doesn't encourage me to read anything you post.
 
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Sometimes, God uses us to deliver His Word Num 22:28. In similar words...what have I done to be struck with such a title?
It would seem some simply have no interest in parables like that of Balaam the false prophet false apostle . It shows God moves stubborn people, the philosophical of this world out of the way. Sending his prophecy, it pins them to a wall.

He reveals the meaning of the parable to those who walk by faith as it is written. Beautiful picture of the gospel .
 

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Instead of providing the link again, you claim only that you have provided it, and you denigrate me for not having read it. Then, when I put in effort to find and read it, you come back with what appears, in context, to be another retort. That doesn't encourage me to read anything you post.
I'm sorry, i didn't mean to upset you
 

Dan_473

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"continually teach" and "exercise authority" is the line Paul drew.


So for teaching.......as long as its not formal, official or ongoing....yes.
It sounds like a woman actually could teach in pretty much any time and place, as long as she takes a break every now and then, doesn't have the official title of "Teacher", and is casual in her presentation.



As for exercising authority.....no
Well, the female camp counselor wouldn't be able to disciple, rebuke, and provide guidance after all, then.
 
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It sounds like a woman actually could teach in pretty much any time and place, as long as she takes a break every now and then, doesn't have the official title of "Teacher", and is casual in her presentation.



Well, the female camp counselor wouldn't be able to disciple, rebuke, and provide guidance after all, then.
Exactly the title Teacher as Good Master is the living abiding word that works in us, our Emanuel. . . God with us.

He warns us in 1 John 2 of those antichrists who say we need a man seen to teach us and identifies them as antichrists many.

Men and women prophets as a kingdom of priests are free to exercise the gospel. . . prophesying with their new tongues their new hearts desires to glory in the unseen Master, Teacher,Rabbi . That does not mean that men cannot teach but rather that as it as it written with the word it establishing the unseen anointing work of the Holy Spirit .

Not attributed to mankind the corrupted creation . he is not served by human hands. We can as a honor plant and water but the Teacher and Master causes the growth and brings to our mind the things he previously has ."the better things that accompany salvation."

The silence had to be maintained...the explosion all nations, men and woman prophesying sharing the gospel . The excitement of the reformation was out of order. It could of went the other way and men be silent till you get home and then share the good news.

The tradition as a shadow to the world it was not a demonstration to their own self as some sort of self edifying (walk by sight) Its not a damnable heresy the tradition seems to be misunderstood .It was to represent the bride of Christ to the world and the coming wedding supper. It would seem many made it into a fashion show as outdated almost .

A picture today of fading glory ... Like when he comes will he find faith or ceremonies that represent that work of His faithfulness .Will the book of the law lost its usefulness to draw men to a unseen hope? ??
 
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This book did a great job to look at the cultural background back then and why Paul had to stop things. Sadly enough this famous verse has been applied to every generation of these last two centuries and in many churches. Paul was talking to all the churches in that town I believe, not to all the world. Sometimes we need to look deeper and I believe the book "What's with Paul and women" from Jon Zens does that. Just like Paul for wrote several times (Rom.1:8. Col. 1:6 and 1:23) that the gospel had been preached to all the world in his time we just cannot always apply things. I always wondered how this was possible but then found that the the word for world is the same that Augustus used during the audit and he only owned the Roman empire so that's why some translations have used the words civilized world. While the Word was written for us, not everything was written to us, so audience relevance and time lines are very important. Not just context. Every generation again and again tries to apply everything right left and centre to themselves when they read scripture while many parts of history do not always apply to us. We can learn from it for sure. Think of Paul's thorn which has been abused and referred to his enemies, as the term comes back twice in the OT. Or the term "this generation" that applied in all instances it appears to Jesus direct audience back then and not to us, including Luke 17:25 where it says that "He (Jesus) has to be rejected and suffer much by this generation". The word "today" is not always our day either for example in Genesis 47:26 where it says:" Joseph made a law concerning the land in Egypt which is still in force today: One-fifth [of the produce] belongs to Pharaoh" Anyway, here is the book. Hope it blesses someone. God bless. https://www.amazon.com/Whats-Paul-Women-Jon-Zens/dp/0976522292
 

Dan_473

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Exactly the title Teacher as Good Master is the living abiding word that works in us, our Emanuel. . . God with us.
I believe Jesus of Nazareth is also the good teacher, good master, and Good Shepherd!
 
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I believe Jesus of Nazareth is also the good teacher, good master, and Good Shepherd!
I would a agree a good student of the Master .The High apostle of our faith .
 

Dan_473

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This book did a great job to look at the cultural background back then and why Paul had to stop things. Sadly enough this famous verse has been applied to every generation of these last two centuries and in many churches. Paul was talking to all the churches in that town I believe, not to all the world. Sometimes we need to look deeper and I believe the book "What's with Paul and women" from Jon Zens does that. Just like Paul for wrote several times (Rom.1:8. Col. 1:6 and 1:23) that the gospel had been preached to all the world in his time we just cannot always apply things. I always wondered how this was possible but then found that the the word for world is the same that Augustus used during the audit and he only owned the Roman empire so that's why some translations have used the words civilized world. While the Word was written for us, not everything was written to us, so audience relevance and time lines are very important. Not just context. Every generation again and again tries to apply everything right left and centre to themselves when they read scripture while many parts of history do not always apply to us. We can learn from it for sure. Think of Paul's thorn which has been abused and referred to his enemies, as the term comes back twice in the OT. Or the term "this generation" that applied in all instances it appears to Jesus direct audience back then and not to us, including Luke 17:25 where it says that "He (Jesus) has to be rejected and suffer much by this generation". The word "today" is not always our day either for example in Genesis 47:26 where it says:" Joseph made a law concerning the land in Egypt which is still in force today: One-fifth [of the produce] belongs to Pharaoh" Anyway, here is the book. Hope it blesses someone. God bless. https://www.amazon.com/Whats-Paul-Women-Jon-Zens/dp/0976522292
Amazing observation!

I remember also reading in Daniel that Nebuchadnezzar ruled over all humans everywhere.


Kind of puts a different spin on

"All the churches of the saints"!
 

Dan_473

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I would a agree a good student of the Master .The High apostle of our faith .
Jesus is a good student, watching what the father did. Jesus is also the good teacher.


John 1: 14 The Word

Unseen

became flesh

Seen

and lived among us. We saw his glory, such glory as of the one and only Son of the Father, full of grace and truth.