ANGELS DO NOT HAVE FLESHLY BODIES

True! And here's a link for reading the book of Enoch online for free, if interested. I see the book as being false and not from God. I plan to read it more later on my computer.

http://www.hiddenbible.com/enoch/online.html

Jesus is the image of the invisible God,and The word was god.

God is invisible because the truth of God is invisible,For people who don't read the Bible, can't understand God's word from The life of the world.

truth of god is invisible that is ideological in mind or in heart .then follow the truth of god and follow Jesue Chirst.

if I said that I have seen god or Jesus but don't understand the truth of god,God is invisible to me.

god shows us him in the bible words.


Do you still think that the second coming of Jesus is a sign of Satan?In order to save the world, Satan incarnated Jesus to come?

So give me a reason, why does Satan incarnate as Jesus?

I will be stubborn on that one. It must of been a strong delusion or it makes God the liar .It could not be Samuel prophesying. It sets the foundation of necromancy communing with dead workers with familiar spirits .

Rachel's family was guilty of it. She hid the idol images (teraphims) from her father. It was quite common in false Judaism. Same spirit of lies that sought after a queen of heaven.

1 Samuel 28. 6 And when Saul enquired of the Lord, the Lord answered him not, neither by dreams, nor by Urim, nor by prophets.

We know from other sections that when a lying spirts in conjured up it the spirit of lies come as a legion. many . And is why a face (what form is he?) must first be applied to believe the deception .

When Jesus asked the name of the spirit that dwelt in a man it identified himself as "legion" as many as needed. (Catholicism has 3500 and rising picking up speed introducing new patron saints that men seek after. Like Saul and the witch. .

The witch or wizard represents an abomination. Again it is necessary to have a idol image when seeking the legion . Deceiving one self can have many faces.

We pray the one manner to our unseen Father in heaven . Mathew 6; 9 not the many or legion workers with familiar spirts of mankind. We walk by faith the unseen.

Sola scriptura .all things written the the bible (law and the prophets). .They can cast out the legion

2 Kings 23:24 Moreover the workers with familiar spirits, and the wizards, and the images, and the idols, and all the abominations that were spied in the land of Judah and in Jerusalem, did Josiah put away, that he might perform the words of the law which were written in the book that Hilkiah the priest found in the house of the Lord.

It can also be seen in the series parables in Luke 16 ....: "No man can serve two teaching Masters" . The word of God the true Master. (the book that Hilkiah the priest found in the house of the Lord.) and necromancy. The illusion of communing with the dead. .

Luke 13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. ........(Mammon the things of men).

King James Version (KJV) Luke 16:26 -28 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

In that parable he the mammon man things of men did not hear the word and believe. He was just told that necromancy (patron saints) is not possible, .So again (two witnesses ) If they hear not Moses and the prophets, sola scriptura then neither would they believe if someone arose from the dead . Faith comes from hearing God not seeing God. God is not a man. We can believe as he gives us his faith as it is written. The greater riches of faith that works in the believer. ...the unseen eternal.

King James Version (KJV) Luke 16: 28-31 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

I would agree it is a oral tradition of men.

The Bible says Enoch prophesied . It does not mean it he wrote a book .

The book of prophecy the bible gives us the words . Small book two or three verses. "Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

We are not to go above it is written

Human flesh is human flesh and Angels may appear in human form and they may eat before us but that does not make them human flesh it only makes them greater in might and power.

Hi thanks for the reply.

I would offer. If you say that a person have seen God or Jesus , God who is not a man then he is invisible to you. Saving faith does not come by observing the temporal things seen.

When we accredit the unseen work of the gospel working in man and attribute it to gods in the likeness of men Like some did with the apostles .That's were trouble begins we deny the faith of Christ that works in us. In that way no man can serve two masters. Faith must be mixed if we are to have our burden made lighter, resting in Christ.

Acts 14:7-12 And there they preached the gospel. And there sat a certain man at Lystra, impotent in his feet, being a cripple from his mother's womb, who never had walked: The same heard Paul speak: who stedfastly beholding him, and perceiving that he had faith to be healed, Said with a loud voice, Stand upright on thy feet. (the commandment from God) And he leaped and walked. And when the people saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia, The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men. And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.

I think what is called second coming is the end of time, the last day . . .the twinkling of the eye. When Christ who is reigning on earth in the hearts of the believers as temples of God. Will say it is finished. Those remaining will be lifted up and the others arise from their sleep .The wake up call. No snooze alarm. LOL

Its not a sign of Satan or anyone .Its a evil generation (faithless mankind) that seeks after what the eyes see. . signs and lying wonders .

Believers believe the scriptures. No need to wonder. We walk by faith and not by looking at the temporal corrupted things seen.

Your unwillingness to accept the plain text of Scripture is sad.

People who lived at the time Christ lived in our world believed the book of Enoch was the inspired word from the Lord. According to the record of the discussions of the men who said it wasn't, their reasoning included that it was too Jewish. Certainly, it is a record of what men were thinking and doing before Noah. Enoch was the Greatgrandfather of Noah. You may be right, that it was not inspired by the Lord, but you are not right that it gives no information about times that are long past. Fragments of the book was found in the deep sea scrolls.

Yes, greater in might and unseen power within (Emanuel)

Messengers (angels) of God as apostles (sent ones) they are moved by God to bring prophecy, the word of God .

Messengers are still entertaining those estranged from the hearing of faith. Messengers preach the gospel and pray God will give them who hear a new spirit that will rise on the last day .

The devil, the one spirit that works in antichrists (many) worked in Peter. This is when Peter fell by pride after the introduction of the key that the gates of hell could never prevail against (the gospel) Peter deceived himself thinking he was the key which faithless Catholicism does attribute to Peter.

Peter full of false ride rebuked the Lord of glory in respect to the Son of Man, Jesus. The Father gave his prophet and apostle Jesus words to rebuke the devil. The Son of man has no power to rebuke .

In effect it was the lord that rebuked the spirt of error. saying get behind me the author of faith not behind Peter a sinner. The things of men seen. Peter was used as one time demonstration of the many antichrists' spoken of in 1 John.

Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy of the Son of man. Blasphemy against the unseen Holy Spirit is not forgivable. (never was). The 33 year window ended when Jesus disappeared out of sight. .

Mathew 16: 21-23 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, (turned by the father )and said (the words of the father) unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Not mixing faith. The things of God and those of men.

We should be careful then how we hear it becomes how much information can be added to the Bible? That like a book of Enoch which does rise above all things written in the law and prophets .(Sola scriptura) we have the words he was inspired of. Do we need more is something missing? ?

One of the think not doctrines of God that protect the integrity of the author.

1 Corinthians 4:5-7 King James Version (KJV) Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God. And these things, brethren, I have in a figure (parable) transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another. For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?

We have the perfect word of prophecy with a warning in the last chapter to those who would add or subtract. rather than rightly divide the whole.

Yes, fragments of it agree with the scriptures - I agree. I just now read some from the book of Enoch I found online. And can recognize scriptures it quotes in it. But I see is as an untrustworthy book, and that it couldn't be the actual book of Enoch that is mentioned in the Bible. Since Enoch was a godly man, and i don't believe God would have allowed a child of his to write such an incorrect book. I saw it said things that contradicted the Bible.

Thanks I would offer that necromancy as a teaching Master is a impossibility. Saul bowed down the strong delusion sent by God. The Spirit of Christ was not speaking after any manner to include prophets (Samuel)


The is a gulf (bottomless pit.) between the two is still protecting the one teaching Master. All things written in the law and prophets .

Luke 16: 26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

It belongs in the deep sea scrolls.
The book was written around 200BC it was not accepted as authentic by the majority of Jewish orthodoxy. That their were ignorant, gullible people who believed it at that time does not make it credible. Jesus did not give it any credibility. Don't mistake antiquity for authenticity. The Dead Sea scrolls were a library collection from the Essenes. The presence of the Enoch fragments doesnt even prove the Essenes believed it was written by Enoch.

The term "Son of God" dosent apply to evil angels as you claim, I'm waiting for your scripture to support your claim.

So you take on the authority to give final judgment? Take it up with Jude who thought differently. Jude wrote scripture, and you are?

I am one who hears prophecy and believes God as he works in me. .

The Bible alone in its entirety is the authority of God.

The prophecy given to Enoch is recorded . saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints etc.

Do you need more than what is recorded? Is their something missing from the gospel .Is the sky the limit just imagine. Where would a person place the assumed missing revelations .In the middle at the end?

It would seem some try to widen the authority of as it is written

Jude. . reveals . Jude 14-15 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

I think the Holy Spirit made his point with the words revealed.

It's Jesus said, its a evil generation that seeks wonders, no more wonders, only Jonah's wonder. what is Jonah's wonder?
The sign of confession and repentance, the sign of Jonah's compassion for sinners

Amen Garee. This is perfect. Concise, well written, I understood it, and I agree with it.

angels do not have fleshly bodies