Our new relationship to the law.

This post demonstrates your inflated view of yourself and your disparagement of others. You keep assuming that others are spiritually inferior to you. That’s unmitigated c**p. I have never before encountered someone who is simultaneously so wrong on so many levels and who also thinks they are right and everyone else is wrong.

I have concluded that you are delusional, deeply deceived, and dangerous. You need help.

If anyone can substantiate their point of view with holy scripture, of course I will be more inclined to listen to them; and I rarely ever disagree with holy scripture; which is more than can be said about you.

This post demonstrates your inflated view of yourself and your disparagement of others. You keep assuming that others are spiritually inferior to you. That’s unmitigated c**p. I have never before encountered someone who is simultaneously so wrong on so many levels and who also thinks they are right and everyone else is wrong.

I have concluded that you are delusional, deeply deceived, and dangerous. You need help.

I consider this to be a personal attack.

We have been doing this for weeks now

You ignore all the scripture or refuse to acknowledge it. Yoo just keep going to your pet verses. Whcih many have explained to you. how you take them out of context or misrepresent what they actually say.

Its time for you to start looking inside man.. You need to acknowledge you have a problem.

if the truth (shoe) fits..

You ignore all the scripture or refuse to acknowledge it.

Yoo just keep going to your pet verses.

Whcih many have explained to you. how you take them out of context or misrepresent what they actually say.

If I did not know any better I would think he is a former member by the name of Peter. That guy was just as proud. Only this guy has different beliefs so.

Since it is very likely against the rules for me to say that I think that you are an unbeliever, I am not going to say that at this juncture.

Exactly; you can’t substantiate your position, so instead you disparage me. You are incapable of conceiving that you may be wrong, so you conclude that I must be an unbeliever. It’s a childish and pathetic way to deal with disagreements.

Of course, what I have been preaching, if you would follow it, is that we are no longer bound by the letter of the law but are set free to walk according to the spirit of what is written (Romans 7:6).

In this, Jesus is our sabbath rest (Matthew 11:28-30)...even the fulfillment of the type that was given to us in the law of the sabbath.

I consider this to be a personal attack.

OK, Grandpa, you and e-g see me as a legalist, so I must be a legalist.

End of story!

I conclude that you have the spirit of error and that because you persecute me, you are also one who would have persecuted Jesus. And because you do not keep my saying, you do not keep His, either.

I'm not 100% sure you are a legalist.

But you have legalist tendencies. Which all of us pretty much do.


Probably why I am so involved with these discussions on Law is I wish there were something I could do to be Righteous before God. To give back, so to speak. To show how obedient I am...

But I know, firsthand, that is not the way...

Here is what I would say to that (while I agree with the basic premise of what is stated above).

Mat 1:21, And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Tit 2:11, For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Tit 2:13, Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Tit 2:14, Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Tit 2:15, These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

Yes indeed, if we are determined by the law to be sinners (Galatians 3:24, Romans 3:20, Psalms 19:7), it does indeed show us that we need Christ.

Christ is able to save us from our sins and to redeem us from all iniquity.

He gave us the Holy Spirit.

And through the Holy Spirit, if we walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit, the righteousness of the law will be fulfilled in us (Romans 8:4).

I would encourage my opponents as concerning doctrine to memorize that verse (Romans 8:4).

If they do, I think that they will integrate what it says into their thinking and will not have an argument with me any longer.

And? You attack me constantly and I don’t whine about it.

Personal attack , right here. ^^^