Salvation is for the Whole World

All of the inspired scriptures are written to God's born again children, instructing them as to how he wants them to live their lives as they sojourn here on earth. So, yes, this was written to the church, informing them of the contrast of the spiritual man and the natural man.

Paul even says is chapter 3:1 that he could not speak unto them as spiritual, but as carnal, even as unto "babes in Christ". They had been born again, but had not matured enough to come unto a knowledge of the righteousness of God.

I get so lost on this Calvinistic notion that a person must be born-again by God in order to acquire the faith necessary to believe enough so that they can become born-again, again?

My understanding of Scripture is that God, being "outside of Time", knew from the beginning which people would choose to accept His gift of Faith and by that Faith, accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
So, both things occur... God predestines us (who believe) unto Salvation, and we choose by Faith... with some degree of help by God Himself.

I think, that to the human mind, this incomprehensible, yet clearly taught in the Scripture. It is a Mystery of God.
But the notion that we are born-again in order to be born-again, again, seems absurd to me? IDK.

The spiritually dead person cannot reach out for a spiritual flotation device.

So, all those declarations to have faith, are directed at God?
That leads to the question; Why do you think God throws a spiritual flotation to some, but allows others to drown their way to Hell?

I could not help, but to notice that you were very kind, and thoughtful in your reply to Rogerg.

Matt. 14:28-31 (ESV)
8 And Peter answered him, “Lord, if it is you, command me to come to you on the water.” 29 He said, “Come.” So Peter got out of the boat and walked on the water and came to Jesus. 30 But when he saw the wind,[a] he was afraid, and beginning to sink he cried out, “Lord, save me.” 31 Jesus immediately reached out his hand and took hold of him, saying to him, “O you of little faith, why did you doubt?”

Jesus is the flotation device.

spiritual flotation device

I believe that the scriptures will uphold that they were already born again children of God, but were disobedient children of God, who had not lost their promise of an eternal inheritance. All (spiritual) Israel will be saved (Rom 11:46).

Sorry, but they can; if God reveals to them they need it. They don't have to be born again to realize they need a savior. If they're already born again why would they need to know they need a savior? This is my last reply to you because you don't have the capacity to understand even trivial matters. Get some common sense.

I have spiritual faith in God, and what his inspired words teach. I do not question God's motives. His ways are higher than my ways.

You really do live in your own Itty bitty world.

Romans Chapter One from Verses 18 on are about every human being that never accepted God. THEY WERE NEVER BELIEVERS TO BEGIN WITH!!

They are [your precious] natural man full of sin and as carnal as a snake.

And Peter was a spiritual child of God.

I believe you are wrong because Scriptures uphold the fact that faith is a requirement for salvation,
and your equation has people being saved when they neither believe in God nor have any faith in
His plan of salvation for those who believe on the shed righteous blood of our Lord Jesus Christ.


Hebrews 11:6

That's a non sequitur, because Jesus encourages ALL to cry out to God.

Still, Jesus said to Peter "O you of little faith, why did you doubt?"
By your ascribing of Faith to believer's... shouldn't Jesus have said "O you of little Faith, why didn't the Father give you more Faith?"

How can you know you are saved? Because according to your view, you did nothing. How do you know He chose you?

Then you must be among the majority of the lost sheep of Israel, who God has blinded to see the truths of the gospel, until you repent of your false doctrine of eternal salvation by works. Paul prayed for those, like yourself, in Rom 10:1-3.

We all need more faith, even yourself.

Can you not see your dependence on your works to save you eternally, simply by your questing me of doing nothing to be saved eternally?

LOL, yes indeed!! There's a point that we both can agree on! Praise God!!

Still, I am confused that staunch Calvinists, like yourself(?), contend that our Salvation and everything accompanying it, is of God and we can contribute nothing?

So how can one, according to your beliefs, contribute to things like increasing Faith, being obedient (since you've several times said that there are/were believers living in disobedience), and Spiritual growth? You say that God does it ALL, right... so what can mankind do, if anything? I would think that we can't even be submissive to God by Calvinist doctrine?

Yeah, I don't know, I have never seen people flat out deny what the Word says. I did a this vs that. Works vs faith. They still say faith is a work. So I don't know why use the Bible if you don't believe what you're reading? I don't get it. Then they call you a heretic for believing the Word. smh