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Find a resurrection somewhere in the text of Matthew 24 and perhaps someone will believe you. There is a gathering, but since it is not the gathering of dead people, there is no resurrection involved. The truth is, when Jesus returns after the marriage, heaven will be emptied as all the saints...

I am pretrib, but I have never used the word "secret" for the rapture. How can something SO NOISY be kept secret? Everyone in the world will hear the trumpet - but perhaps only those in Christ will know what it is. And when perhaps half the population suddenly is gone, how in the world can that...

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. I would have to agree with Gary here.

I rather think a "secret" rapture is made up by posttribbers. Let's reherse: A SHOUT A TRUMPET Graves suddenly flying open: this is bound to make noise and start a very noisy earthquake. How then could this be "secret?" The WORLD will know something happened. The Word of God says that Jesus...

I don't need a link, thanks. I know I am "In Christ." I also know I will not be taking part of any of the 70th week. That week is for Daniel's people, not the church. I am going to be found worthy to escape all these things, as will all who are in Christ and are looking for His coming. Since...

You are real close: Jesus was not talking about "the end" until he talked of His coming. However, everything before verse 15 was speaking of church age events.

OK. Then tell us when in history each of the trumpet judgments happened, and each of the vials with plagues happened. Since they are history, it should be easy.

Did you tear them out of your bible? There are parts of our bible that was not inspired: Job's three friends answers, for example. We find later on in Job they were all wrong! But God inspired someone to include them. Peter, when he tried to correct Jesus for another example. Did you not read...

I disagree: when Jesus mentioned "the end" He was speaking of His coming to Armageddon. I agree with you in part: He started at the beginning of the church age, so when He said, "the end is not yet, He was still speaking of church age events: wars, rumors of wars, earthquakes, pestilences...

I am sad to see you go. Never mind about bullies. Everyone ALWAYS reaps what they sow.

I do too.

No website needed, thanks. The truth is, to truly believe as you do, you have to make very literal verses into symbolic verses. That means you take a verse that is very clear in its understanding as literal, and turn it into something else - so anyone can guess what it means. Taking every...

It is simply amazing that two people can read the same texts and come up with such a diversion of opinion. I, for one, think your theory is total myth. Why? No one has every pointed to points in history for each trumpet and vial judgment. They can't because these things are future and nothing...

I like the way you say things.

The very title, "FIRST" coming proves only one but also proves another - by definition. Did you not notice that God does not use "first," "second" or third" or any other number for His coming as shown in Rev. 19. Neither in Matthew 24. I think God understands that we can count. He used the...

It is good to post scripture. It is even better to understand the posted scriptures. You have shown over and over that you don't believe John and where he tells us God's wrath begins. Always remember: John starts the DAY of His wrath (so of course His wrath) BEFORE the 70th week. Therefore...

One need ask only ONE question to find out if the bible meets the criteria of "the perfect." HAS KNOWLEDGE VANISHED AWAY? No, human knowledge perhaps doubles ever year. It is very safe to say that knowledge has not vanished away. There goes your entire argument glug glug glug right down the...

I'm with eqw here: Jesus said the generation (single) that sees the beginning of the end will see all of the end. Many people believe seeing Israel becoming a nation was the beginning - the generation that saw that event will not be totally gone before all is accomplished. I don't think we have...

You are TOO funny! When He comes again AFTER His second coming, it cannot be called a "second" coming: it will then be His THIRD coming. Just so you know, this is not "adding" a coming not written: BOTH comings are written and they are two different and separate comings. 1 Thes. 4 mentions a...

There is no verse anywhere that in so many words tells us when the rapture will be, INCLUDING a posttrib rapture. The posttrib rapture is built on inferences such as GUESSING the gathering in Matthew 24 is Paul's rapture. This is not something we should guess about. It is an absolute fact that...