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  1. wattie

    Forgiveness in The kingdom

    There is a difference here between first forgiveness from Jesus at salvation for our sin, and then the daily walk of forgiving others. Forgiving others comes out of the love shown us by Jesus in sealing (for those that are converted) us. It may not happen after we are born again. That doesn't...
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    What to do in church meetings Protestant Tradition v. Scripture

    Not a fair comparison there. But letting the bible interpret itself and following God as per His Word led by the Holy Spirit is obviously the best way.. and Watchman Nee had done a lot of off scripture practices. We would learn from their mistakes.. both Watchman Nee's and Peter's mistakes. So...
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    What to do in church meetings Protestant Tradition v. Scripture

    About Watchman Nee: https://www.apologeticsindex.org/2694-watching-out-for-watchman-nee He was off beam on alot of things
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    What to do in church meetings Protestant Tradition v. Scripture

    Yeah-- I need to look at this more. Just trying to get these distinctions right. I don't always agree with gotquestions.org.. I'm getting at the fact of Barnabas.. etc.. being in different situation to the average believer. Close associates to the apostles who were more the exception than the...
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    What to do in church meetings Protestant Tradition v. Scripture

    from got questions.org: "There was also a spiritual gift of apostle (this is not to be confused with the office—they are separate). Among those who had the spiritual gift were James (1 Corinthians 15:7; Galatians 1:19), Barnabas (Acts 14:4, 14; 1 Corinthians 9:6), Andronicus and Junias (Romans...
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    What to do in church meetings Protestant Tradition v. Scripture

    There were close associates of the apostles who were given similar commission. They are the exception..not the rule in scripture. Pastors, evangelists and teachers, in the Bible, have nothing in the future of those positions that leads to them ceasing. The only thing that affects them..is...
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    What to do in church meetings Protestant Tradition v. Scripture

    Having Jesus as 'that which is perfect'.. or the 'perfect thing' in 1 co 13. And the 'face to face' as Jesus.. doesn't take away from the fact there are no more prophets or apostles. So before going to the point of what the perfect thing is.. and what 'face to face' means in this passage of...
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    What to do in church meetings Protestant Tradition v. Scripture

    Well study of the bible would definitely be a qualifier for church leadership. The rest.. yeah.. you don't need a seminary degree to be a pastor, but led by the Holy Spirit, be faithful to the Word of God. But qualifications for being a pastor are right there in 2 Timothy and other books of...
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    What to do in church meetings Protestant Tradition v. Scripture

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/cessationist/%3famp This is useful on this matter
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    Thorn in Paul's body

    Galatians 6:11-12 KJV - Ye see how large a letter I have written unto you with mine own hand. 12 As many as desire to make a fair shew in the flesh, they constrain you to be circumcised; only lest they should suffer persecution for the cross of Christ. Galatians 6 also.
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    What to do in church meetings Protestant Tradition v. Scripture

    What you are saying here is what happened. The question is whether, in the future beyond the time of the Ephesians.. things happened that affected the gifts of prophecy, tongues and knowledge. The answer to that is you have the inspiration of the scriptures finishing the death of the apostles...
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    What to do in church meetings Protestant Tradition v. Scripture

    It doesn't matter that James had the perfect law of liberty earlier.... that it was called perfect. It's still the same thing that gets added to with the NT. Paul considered his own writings as scripture in comparison to the OT scripture. Even though it is called 'perfect'.. in James that...
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    What to do in church meetings Protestant Tradition v. Scripture

    It isn't the paper.. it is the process of inspiration. Holy men of God were moved along by the Holy Spirit to pen scripture. Also the establishment of the early churches, death of the apostles and destruction of the Jewish temple that affect the gifts of prophecy, tongues and knowledge. Even...
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    Christian music on smule

    Here is a song I did a duet with on Smule, see what you think! Les Miserables https://www.smule.com/recording/les-mis%C3%A9rables-the-mis%C3%A9rables-men-medley/2412218983_4901037392?channel=Copy-Link
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    What to do in church meetings Protestant Tradition v. Scripture

    What is ceased in 1 Co 13... is the GIFT of knowledge..not general knowledge obviously. Very different things. But.. cessationism is not based only on this passage. Alone.. it is a passage that is incomplete to prove cessationism. So.. you also compare how the gifts were meant to be...
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    What to do in church meetings Protestant Tradition v. Scripture

    Context 1 Co 13 context is not about the return of Jesus. What ever is in part.. is what becomes perfect. The gifts of knowledge, tongues and prophecy (and I think by association- tge gift of miracles) are perfected by 'that which is perfect' or 'the perfect thing' What was in part about...
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    William Blake - Bible Artwork, & Modern AI Videos

    Also they are showing Satan as the beast like creature. He would look like an angel I thought. Maybe there are refs in the Bible like Revelation with the dragon that is the inspiration here. Either way .. does not faze me either. I'm more concerned with AI putting words in people's mouths thru...
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    How do you get saved?

    Yes so I could agree with miraculous healing happening of what you saw. If that met the Biblical litmus test, I couldn't discount it.
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    How do you get saved?

    Not me.. biblical exposition. You've got the death of the apostles, the inspiration of the scriptures and the Jewish temple being destroyed. I would have to assume these had no affect on prophecy, tongues and knowledge. These events are directly tied to them. But there are loads of other...
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    How do you get saved?

    Cessationists again, do not say miracles no longer happen. God can and does still. It is the gift of miracles that has fulfilled its purpose, not God's ability to do as He wills, which would include miracle working. But biblical miracles are a different story than things like the birth of a...