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  1. wattie

    Not By Works

    Well yeah.. there is faith in Christ at salvation.. once off.. Then there is daily faith. But the gifts of faith, hope and love are given at salvation. The believer empowered in using them supernaturally.
  2. wattie

    Gifts of the spirit.

    The book of John shows how to know you have eternal life. Know you have faith . .. and that is by believing Jesus is God, that He lived sinless... that He died and rose again. That by entrusting eternal life Him you are saved. So you won't know because you are good or do good works..but...
  3. wattie

    Not By Works

    Entrusting your salvation with Jesus Christ 😀 First there is initial salvation.. initial trust in Jesus.. once and for all. Then there is daily service.. trusting from day to day. Initial salvation isn't dependent on daily service. There will be fruit from the Holy Ghost indwelling a...
  4. wattie

    Not By Works

    Yes, I think having one bishop over multiple congregations was the first error. Too much power given to men in charge. Then I think the pedo baptism came.. with sprinkling instead of immersion. Not sure when they came up with the 'universal, visible' church. I think the rituals and steps to...
  5. wattie

    Not By Works

    The thing is though, the actual creed for the Catholics has many of the same shared beliefs of protestant and other churches. They have the Trinity... They have salvation through Jesus.. they have Him as He is in the Bible. It's just that's they have added so much over time and taken so...
  6. wattie

    Non denominational Christianity books??

    Well independent Baptists are not really denominational since there is no mother church..all independent churches. So some books on them.. My Church by J.M Moody. The Battle for Baptist History by I.K Cross. Real Churches or a Fog by S.E Anderson. I know it's about 'baptists' but most 'non...
  7. wattie

    Is the laying of hands necessary in order to receive the Holy Spirit?

    The thing is .. it is 'they'.. the whole congregation receiving the Holy Ghost . Different work to an individual receiving the Holy Ghost. The Holy Spirit not yet come...in what way? Individual indwelling? I don't think so. Compare receiving the Holy Ghost with the book of John on believe...
  8. wattie

    Theories on the resurrection

    Yea not all who study the resurrection become believers. Or remain in the faith. But I believe if they are really honest about it..there is no other best explanation of Jesus being seen alive after death.
  9. wattie

    Theories on the resurrection

    Well, I am not sure who you mean. Is Josh McDowell now an agnostic? Is Lee Strobel? I don't know. Aside from them there are quite a number of others who defend the faith. Who do you mean?
  10. wattie

    Is the laying of hands necessary in order to receive the Holy Spirit?

    We are talking about the different roles of the Holy Spirit here. He indwells a believer at receiving salvation. This isn't by the laying on of hands. He also comes 'in the midst' of a Christian congregation. This isn't salvation because they are already saved . He empowers also.. the...
  11. wattie

    Theories on the resurrection

    The other theory not yet mention was that Jesus hypnotized the disciples to believe He was risen. There are many problems with this, but the main ones come from what hypnotists can do. Jesus would have to have hypnotised not only the disciples... But many many others. To do this... He would...
  12. wattie

    Theories on the resurrection

    I didn't know he was either. Seems that if people do an honest study of the gospels, as a non believer, they get convinced of the resurrection
  13. wattie

    Theories on the resurrection

    Yes I've read the book and seen the movie. I like defense of the faith information. I've also got Evidence that Demand a Verdict .. which is very comprehensive.
  14. wattie

    Theories on the resurrection

    Yeah . ..stealing of the body.. Assumes that 1... Jesus was crucified. As per the gospels 2... Jesus was buried in the tomb. As per the gospels. 3... That the tomb is empty. As per the gospels. They are basically agreeing with the gospel accounts. But the real issues with the stealing of...
  15. wattie

    WHY?

    'being baptised for the remission of sins'. ... Dont take this verse all on its lonesome. Compare it with vast amounts of scripture with no baptism in them, that are about receiving eternal life. As I've posted before.. have a look at most of the book of John... It is about assuring...
  16. wattie

    Theories on the resurrection

    Bible critics a long time ago tried to counter the resurrection with some theories. These theories show the reality of the gospel accounts. One was that Jesus only swooned on the cross. They thought that the coolness of the tomb could revive Jesus. But this theory bit the dust pretty hard...
  17. wattie

    Two main issues

    Ah, well there you are getting into the different tenses of believe. Depending on the verse it is in.. it can be initial belief in Jesus that He died and rose again.. lived sinless.. is God.. and by entrusting your salvation with Him, you have eternal life. Then the other kind is...
  18. wattie

    Two main issues

    Regarding water baptism. In the early churches, believers would be water baptised straight after conversion. So you see in scripture, belief and water baptism in the same verse. Then there is also the fact that water baptism symbolises salvation.. dieing and rising.. so can look like...
  19. wattie

    Two main issues

    Yea well I've been on this site since 2001! I used to be netwattie. Back then the chat rooms was one room only. But there was also a good balance of osas believers and not. A big change happened with DC going and Abiding dieing. But it is only of digital i and o I guess.
  20. wattie

    Two main issues

    That's absolutely awesome thank you Magenta!! 😀