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  1. wattie

    About the movie The Jesus Revolution.

    The Jesus Revolution movie is a story about mainly charismatic christianity. It's showing the roots of the Vineyard movement among other charismatic movements. I started watching it and wasn't sure about it.. but will finish it on Friday night. In regards to 'faith without works is dead' This...
  2. wattie

    Not By Works

    The Jewish concept agency concept again comes in here.. Jesus had equal authority and power to the Father. 'The agent is as himself' But forgiving sin is the primary thing. He forgives those who haven't directly offended Him. For eg.. if you had a quarrel with a friend and I came along and...
  3. wattie

    Not By Works

    Okay.. well sticking with the OT appearances.. looking at the article I referenced.. it shows God appearing in likeness of man in some of the cases. He was in physical form in some of the cases.. how would that not be in the likeness of man?
  4. wattie

    Not By Works

    Oh, sir.. DControversial is no longer on this site.. although he started this thread. A long time ago!
  5. wattie

    Not By Works

    That is true.. but that fact remains Jesus claimed equality with the Father and then did miracles that only God can do. Jesus also called Himself the 'I AM'.. which is saying when God spoke to Moses it was Jesus speaking. With the Jewish concept of agency.. the agent bringing a message on...
  6. wattie

    Prophecy warfare

    Mustaphadrink, Right-- so .. line upon line, precept upon precept. .context context context right? Do this in defining prophecy. Do this in defining what happens at salvation. No verse stands alone? Right? Well.. then follow this principle. God bless
  7. wattie

    Not By Works

    In answer to God being in the likeness of man before the NT: He appeared in temporary physical form in the OT before the NT: https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_1297.cfm
  8. wattie

    Not By Works

    In answer to God not being a man passage: From Gotquestions: We must also consider what the Old Testament is really saying about God when it says He is not a human being. The point being made in Numbers 23:19, 1 Samuel 15:29, and Hosea 11:9 is that God does not lie. He is not fickle. His...
  9. wattie

    Prophecy warfare

    All right, so define it as it is from scripture then, mustaphadrink. Rather than being a smart alec :)
  10. wattie

    Not By Works

    You gotta look at the context of Numbers 23:19.. It isn't about the fact of God not being a man .. but the nature of God that He is perfect.. beyond humans. Beyond man. It isn't saying that God can't become a man. That's not the subject of the verse. Context context context.. If this...
  11. wattie

    Prophecy warfare

    Thanks for the reply, so what do you make of the 'more sure word of prophecy' 2Pe_1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: This is about...
  12. wattie

    Prophecy warfare

    I am a Watson :)
  13. wattie

    Prophecy warfare

    I'm not saying that the GIFT of prophecy in still operating but that the the gift WAS speaking forth God's Word supernaturally, without having scripture complete. So a pastor now won't have the gift but when they speak forth scripture.. it is God's Word being messaged.. which is prophecy...
  14. wattie

    Prophecy warfare

    A whole lot of subjectivity here and not much actual from scripture... Which IS prophecy. A pastor speaking from the Bible is effectively prophecying Biblical prophecy is not fortune telling or predicting the future.. it's speaking forth God's Word.
  15. wattie

    Spiritual gifts:Unconfusing them part 3 - analogy

    The beginning point of receiving the Holy Spirit at salvation is the main thing. If you have to be water baptised... That is plain works for salvation and not a christian teaching. But looking beyond that to the gifts ... In the Bible these were not earned or learned but given and then...
  16. wattie

    Not By Works

    Oh that we shouldeth bid thee farewell fervently! And yet... but do we? Thy words have shot with hidden arrows that would thou intendeth to hit the mark so swiftly... But what that thy words should be so strong? Nay again and nay again.. that we should be made so fools. Oh that a fine...
  17. wattie

    Not By Works

    True. The issue I have is I think even though the people come in claiming to be Messianic Jews.. they are in fact making the OT law binding on eternal life. This is the problem they have that I'm picking up on. Accepting all of the NT is the thing.. which I haven't seen many Messianic Jews...
  18. wattie

    Not By Works

    Yeah.. like I have been trying to say to people in this site.. most Messianic Jews don't believe Jesus is fully God. I wish they did! It's like they don't give up on Judaism.. just kind of add to it. How can Jesus be the Messiah... and NOT fully God? That doesn't work.
  19. wattie

    Not By Works

    Well, if you have believed Jesus is God, that He died and rose again, that He lived sinless, and that by entrusting your salvation with Him, you have eternal life... John 3:16, 3:36, 5:24 Ephesians 2, vs 8-9 Romans chapter 10: 9-10 Then we are both headed to be in the New Jerusalem. I...
  20. wattie

    Works of the Law

    Yeah .. doing good works for Christ is the testimony of our lives to others. But in regards to the seven churches..this is about churches. That means ... An entire local assembly of believers being characterised by a particular kind of faith.. flaws included. It's not about receiving...