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There are part cessationists... That have just the sign gifts ceasing. Then full ..is ministry and sign gifts ceasing..which I agree with. The thing is though, someone could be talented in a ministry in a particular way. ..and then the difference is negligible..so I don't have an issue with...

When someone in the Bible is characterized as a murderer.. that's different to a believer who has tripped up in sin. But the key thing here is what is the context of the whole passage? There is a lot more to this in the verses before and after. Eternal life can't be undone. Only God can...

The main passages to look at are Acts 2 and 1 Corinthians 12-14. They will inform you.

I think you may find most of the people you are quoting actually WERE charismatics or pentecostal. I was.

Yup.. biblical tongues is an entirely different kettle of fish to what many practice today. Im a cessationist, but if someone is going to practice tongues they should at least go according to the biblical practice. Pagan religions have gibberish tongues.. and many believers unconsciously...

Well I acknowledge that there are times when I doubt God. The feelings disappear and then I wonder where He is. Scripture says that He never leaves nor forsakes you. So it's about resting in God.. resting in His assurance. Not relying on emotions. It can get really harrowing in the walk with...

Oh ok.. no worries 😀 I assumed you were not sure .. like asking a question on it. Blessings . I'm saying the same thing.. the soul of a believer is taken by the Holy Spirit.. nothing can cohabitate with Him

If a believer could be indwelled by a demon.. that would mean they would be overpowering the Holy Spirit, who indwells a believer. That is impossible ! The Holy Spirit is God. Waaaay more powerful than any demon. Of course a believer can be affected by demons.. but not possessed. The thing...

If God keeps salvation.. not us.. then once saved always saved isn't about the individual.. it's about Jesus. That is the whole point of the OSAS argument.. that salvation isn't dependent on us.. doesn't belong to the individual.. isn't kept by the individual or maintained by the individual...

To those who would say OSAS is a license to sin: (Rom 6:12) Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. (Rom 6:13) Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive...

Is Brightfame coming from the calvinism view of salvation before belief?

Well.. what if someone is mute? They cannot physically call upon Jesus name. I guess if calling on Jesus name were a requirement.. they could do it inwardly.

Yeah.. turning from sin as in reducing sin in our lives can only happen after already being saved. Before salvation good behaviour does nothing.

It does.. but also with Romans 10:9-10 It's believing on the Lord Jesus Christ... with the calling upon the name of Jesus something you can do. .but is not literally required thing-- because what if someone can't talk? So part of believing on Christ.. may mean inwardly calling on Him.. but...

There is a bit of a difference between gifts of the Holy Spirit and the fruits from being converted. Gifts .. such as faith, hope and love..and ... The sign and ministry gifts..(I believe the sign and ministry gifts have been put away by God with the death of the apostles, completion of the...

Well.. to start with.. none of these verses stand alone by themselves. Put them in the paragraphs and chapters they are in.. get the time, place, subject etc.. and then show what they mean. That is how any historical document is reasoned out. Do it with the bible also. Context context...

I think this is getting close to what the OP is about methinks: (1Co 2:14) But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. (1Co 2:15) But he that is spiritual judgeth all...

(Joh 17:3) And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. (Joh 17:4) I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. (Joh 17:5) And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with...

Yup. There is a lot of embellishing. I know there has been a recent wave but from what I've seen its got a whole lot of emotionalism.. which is also part of the Jesus revolution. 'clouds without water' Not saying that no one got saved.. but what were they learning following conversion...

It may not be obvious from the outside view . For eg someone who is very quiet who gets saved. There will be fruit from being saved.. but that doesn't mean they will always be faithful.