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Well Jesus IS God He called Himself the I AM This is God who spoke to Moses at the burning bush. I think it's close to this: YHWH Becomes Yahweh Becomes Yehoshua Becomes Joshua Becomes Jesus. Jesus also referred to Himself in Revelation as the Alpha and Omega.. which is also the name...

My salvation experience is similar VCO. Not as intense like that, but the same sort of thing.

All right then.. I will disagree and leave it now.

Oh just to clarify.. there is no condition on salvation .. only initially believing in Jesus. There is condition on having extra rewards in heaven for the faithful. But if a believer isn't faithful they still have entrance because they believed in Jesus. So it's still underlying...

I strive to. Like others have posted the emotional element of love comes and goes. But the commitment of love as a decision is what always pulls me back to Him when I struggle.

Salvation by grace thru faith is the way its always been. David believed in a Redeemer, so did Job. The OT prophets testify of Jesus. The festivals show Jesus revealed in the tabernacle and passover among other things. 'The church' began with JC and His disciples, local and visible, the...

The other thing is whether this is about leaving church.. and not about salvation. Is 'us' in this passage.. a local church? If this is the case then it's not so much about saying unsaved or not.

Falls away... depends what we mean when we say this. I'm in the belief that a believer can fall into serious sin and still be saved.. but they can expect rebuke and discipline from the Holy Spirit indwelling in them. Mathew 18:19-20 has the process of discipline for a believer in a church...

Never said that. Again that's not thinking spiritually. If Jesus has delivered me from sin and stays with me if I fail.. I would want to love Him back. Not that I HAVE to.. but that I WANT to out of freedom back to the freedom giver. You cannot earn a place in heaven. Completely...

OK so I guess you are meaning God drives a person to be faithful once they have been converted. I agree with that. But continued faithfulness not a work? Not so sure about that. No one can keep up a mouse wheel of effort for salvation because if they don't fail in the deeds, they do in...

There is entrance to heaven and extra rewards in heaven for faithful believers. Entrance requires belief in Jesus initially for eternal salvation. Rewards requires continual faithfulness.

I grew up methodist and charismatic, then now am baptist non-charis. The difference? The experiences I had as a charismatic were highly subjective. The difference between what I was doing with tongues and my heightened emotions was very little different to new age stuff a got into for a few...

Probably on love of fishing also.

Hey something I actually agree with you on David tree...! :) Yes, putting Pentecost as the beginning point ignores the work done by Jesus with His disciples. Mathew 18 has a church discipline process before Pentecost. Matthew 16:20 has Jesus building His church. This is before Pentecost...

Yeah, it didn't begin with a famous person starting it. It began with Jesus and His disciples.

Well, you are right that apart from Christ's atoning work there is no salvation. But demons don't entrust their salvation their Christ, right? Yes.. they would know that Jesus is God, that He lived a sinless life, died and rose again.. but they don't call out for Him from conviction on their...

Did you know I've been visiting this site since 2001? Back then it was based on chat rooms mainly and forums not much.

Weeell salvation is thru believing Jesus is God, lived a sinless life, died and rose again. That by believing in Him they have eternal life. A lost person is convicted of their need for Him. They can then believe in Him and are saved when they do. Neither calvinist nor Armenian is real...

Whoa up brother! There are many many churches that are fully OSAS believing that don't believe the body of Christ is a universal, every believer entity.. in case you didn't know. I believe this also.. where every mention of church is of a localised entity, whether it be AT a particular place...

Reminds me of the quote of something like.. 'trying to earn your way to salvation is like putting perfume on a corpse'