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  1. wattie

    Cessation of Gifts

    Well first part of scripture is 1 Corinthians 13. That which is perfect, or the perfect thing is what causes sign gifts in this passage to cease. So some key points: Its talking the GIFT of knowlege, not knowledge in general. So we still have knowledge now. But not the particular gift used...
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    How to defend the doctrine of the Holy Trinity

    Yes beautifully put. I've been posting the same thing, but seems to be falling on deaf ears. Altho I am unsure who in this thread is actually non trinitarian aside from one person
  3. wattie

    How to defend the doctrine of the Holy Trinity

    Well I'm not talking of calvinism predestination. I am talking of receiving Jesus as Saviour by free will and then having a place in heaven guaranteed, predestined. So its predestined only on believing first. We would need to look at an example in scripture of someone who committed blasphemy...
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    How to defend the doctrine of the Holy Trinity

    As for the forgiving.. have a look at the context surrounding each of these quotes. That is the key. They do not stand alone. So for example.. The Holy Spirit can be initially rejected for salvation.. as can Jesus and the Father.. now this isn't going to be forgiven because the person is...
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    How to defend the doctrine of the Holy Trinity

    Ill get back to Just for a start, altho im repeating meself... jesus ascended to be equal with the Father after he said the Father is greater. Therefore it was a difference in position, not deity
  6. wattie

    How to defend the doctrine of the Holy Trinity

    One triune God is straight christian doctrine. To reject that you are entering a different religion
  7. wattie

    How to defend the doctrine of the Holy Trinity

    Try and reason that Jesus is not God and you are talking of a different religion to christianity. Try and reason the same for the Holy Spirit and the Father that they are not God and you are doing the same thing. The word trinity isn't in the bible but the deity of all 3 expressions of God...
  8. wattie

    Resources for Bible Understanding

    Maybe hard to find, but Bible Analysis by Albert Garner is one i like. I think resources that show how to keep verses in context are best.
  9. wattie

    How to defend the doctrine of the Holy Trinity

    Weeeeell... If you look at the context of Jesus saying the Father is greater.... He ascends to one with the Father, equal, shortly after speaking with the disciples. So... The Father was greater in POSITION, not essence! The president is greater than me... Is he ontogically superior...
  10. wattie

    Benny Hinn says right atmosphere necessary before God can manifest

    Does Todd Bentley have mental illness?
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    How do Church Leaders Enforce.....

    Yes, i think one factor is balancing commitments. If the pastor has a family also, and then is homeschooling their kids.... Not easy to then commit time to addressing someone in the church with an issue.
  12. wattie

    How do Church Leaders Enforce.....

    Ive been on the receiving end of church discipline. Getting fellowship withrawn from a pastor who id known for around 18 years. It was difficult to understand because they didnt really say why they were doing it until later.
  13. wattie

    What do we mean by 'the church'

    Concerning one body and that I am talking of multiple bodies. Consider that the Holy Spirit indwells the soul of a believer. Is that multiple Holy Spirits? The Holy Spirit is also 'in the midst' of church.. see Matthew 18. Many many churches.. is that many Holy Spirits? Now I am speaking...
  14. wattie

    What do we mean by 'the church'

    Pervert or try and get to the original meaning? Of course there is a church of all redeemed but that hasn't assembled yet.. its not a present reality as yet. The Family of God is a present reality that contains all redeemed.
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    What do we mean by 'the church'

    Still a local congregation. That group could meet anywhere tho. The calling out.. doesn't HAVE to be from their own home, but that is the general rule of thumb. Its more of being separated out by God as a local church to be light to their community. A church tho is no building.. it's the...
  16. wattie

    How do Church Leaders Enforce.....

    For resolving disputes there is the model in Matthew 18 where two or three gather to address sin issues in the church setting as a local body. This though would be led by the leadership in said church under Jesus' headship. If said leadership aren't following scripture, yeah then the...
  17. wattie

    What do we mean by 'the church'

    Called out after already being eternally saved, from their homes, to a congregated body of believers as one of Christs NT assemblies. 😎 Matthew 18.. yes, where two or three are gathered.. there I am with them. That's in the context of resolving sin issues in a local church. An updated...
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    Benny Hinn says right atmosphere necessary before God can manifest

    I dont hate Benny Hinn. Cant see where what he is doing is sound I'm Gods eyes
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    Benny Hinn says right atmosphere necessary before God can manifest

    Yeah, the Holy Spirit of course Has the power to do great wonders and miracles etc.. But like I said b4.. it's his external acts of power rather than being bought on by our effort or faith. But examples like Peter Popoff and Benny Boy are pretty clear cases of self or groups trying to...