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@CS1 I forgot to add the verses and mention prophecies and knowledge were to fade out while tongues were to cease abrubtly. Two Greek words are used to show how the gifts end differently. 1 Cor.13:8-10 8 Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are...

Has the language ever been identified and your interpretation been verified? Afterall, it's not a hard thing to do today with the Internet. How could I know you are not as deluded as the one speaking in so called tongues? Unfortunately, you have ignored the purpose of tongues as many do. It was...

It's all been said by others from what I can see. Tongues was for unbelieving Jews as a warning and with the destruction of the Temple, Israel's time was over so no more need for warning. Tongues was not a gift to bless the Church but to warn Israel, Isaiah prophesied the time would come and...

That's because you have to put many verses together and come and reason together with the Lord God. Holding to only one verse is fine in times of emergencies but daily living requires a whole rationale behind one's thinking.

I see nothing in the chapter to think otherwise. Paul mentions there are many languages in the world and those present may or may not know it. If there is no-one there who knows what is said and there is no interpreter, then one should keep quiet and speak silently to God for He alone knows all...

You mean like your opinion none have ended? ;) :D

He was referring to one particular gift ending in 70AD, tongues, not "gifts" plural which you erroneously stated.

Yes, but we learn our language with which we communicate, even if it is used poorly at times. The gift of tongues was a language unknown to the speaker but known to the hearer.

I've been in a number of services where they supposedly spoke in tongues and never once heard an interpretation. So much for edification of the Church. :confused:

If the need for tongues is finished, what's to interpret?

Strewth! :rolleyes:

If it specifically indicated as you claim there would be no argument amongst the scholars.

Yes, I just got through a discussion with another poster who did that consistently. It is very exhausting. Rather than deal with what you actually say, they divert away to things you never mentioned in order to score points. Sad to say the least.

I was speaking only of prophecy. I put away my barbie dolls when I was 13yo but my teddies still sit on my bed. Just because some gifts have not been taken away doesn't mean all remain. If you want to know what the will of God is (forthtelling), then learn your scriptures. If you want to know...

Did I say we don't need pastor/teachers? I was talking about prophecy. How about staying on topic. :)

The Bible didn't tell people those things of life in in the time it was written, you even admit to that within your own post. (what I put in bold) You need more than the word of God? "It is written" was good enough for Jesus and He told the rest of us the same. Luke 16:31 “He said to him, ‘If...

On that basis we would all be prophets. You don't have to be a prophet for God to speak to you. Everything we need to know till the end of the age is already written in the word.

The gift of wisdom and the wisdom that comes from knowing Christ (who is the Word) are two different things but I'm guessing you were talking a little tongue in cheek, yes? ;)

Do you believe all the gifts have ceased or just some like the "word" gifts? (tongues, knowledge, wisdom, prophecy)

yes