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So you're mad I randomly picked a few and didn't go copy and list every single one...? :LOL:

There are some other verses that seem to support it, not just the one in Mathew. There's what was said to the theif on the cross. There's also the ones under the altar in Revelation. And paul said he would prefer to be away from his body and home with the Lord. I guess it seems to me like His...

Well you're the one who posted the verses! :LOL:

I agree. We learn the obedience of faith - from the things we suffer/experience/go through.

Astounding post Deut! :)

Oh man, everytime I read that verse I just start bawling...

Pb, I enjoyed that post so much! :) Concerning the OT verses about death - do you think there has been a change of any sort since Jesus' death and resurrection? All the sleep described as death in the OT seems to have ceased for the righteous. Certainly all of their dead they saw walking around...

Are you sure? New Living Translation "The Spirit of the LORD is upon me, for he has anointed me to bring Good News to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim that captives will be released, that the blind will see, that the oppressed will be set free,

Oh my gosh you have made me erupt in peals and peals of laughter! :D I like to laugh. I don't like it when the humor is arrogant though. That doesn't make me laugh.

Off the top of my head...I only recall the OT saying they went to sheol/the grave and slept. I've never noted that they went anywhere else in my reading. But I will help you look. :)

Genesis 5:3 New Living Translation When Adam was 130 years old, he became the father of a son who was just like him--in his very image. He named his son Seth. New International Version When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth...

Not exactly... Adam and eve were created in Gods' image. And then adam had a son, born in his own image and he named him seth.

Correction: There is no way the dead can bring forth the living.

I don't believe that all dead were risen then but just those who had ever died with faith. I think...no, I don't believe in soul sleep. At least not for those of faith. Revelation speaks of those under the altar in heaven. They do not sound like they are sleeping, blissfully unaware. I think...

I agree! Most participating in here do not agree with you. They think we are born an eternal spirit even before we receive the Holy Spirit. This is why I asked ben the question about adam and eve. There is no way the dead can bring forth the dead.

Mathew 10:28 Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. This does not appear to be talking about an eternal life of torment, but rather being destroyed. 23:33 “You serpents, you brood of vipers...

In my opinion, this isn't a good verse to prove humans are made up of an eternal spirit apart from the Spirit of God. It talks of the word of God being like a sharp sword that cuts apart, divides or discerns between soul and spirit by revealing the innermost thoughts of a man.

Well...I have to say that I think you maybe should be raked over the coals for it! :) The unsaved humans are one story. A being like satan (and the two men he indwells) are a different story. The reason satan appears to be a different story to me is that he amazingly does seem to somehow have...

Then the devil, who had deceived them, was thrown into the fiery lake of burning sulfur, joining the beast and the false prophet. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. And then, further down: This lake of fire is the second death. 15And anyone whose name was not found...