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Are you being serious?? :LOL: He talked about how we could not be happy knowing our loved ones on earth are in eternal torment every day and he gave a verse that makes him think the memory of them wont even come into our minds. Because he did not use the exact words: ""hearing those crying from...

New International Version "See, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind. New Living Translation "Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore. English Standard...

He already answered his thoughts on that. :) Whether you agree with him or not, he did already answer what he thinks on it. And he at least did so with a verse.

I don't know what I think concerning this...but pennEd has a point with that verse - it does say not only they won't be remembered, but they won't even come to mind...former things, that is, the former earth and life we lived.

Ah, garee, I don't know why I always have such a hard time trying to understand what you are saying...I asked you once but you never answered me - is English your first language?

Which scriptures? :)

I was not comparing a human court sentence to a holy Gods court sentence. I was saying that to use as proof that unbelievers will have an eternal life, the argument that they are cast alive into their punishment, is not a good argument. I know HRFTD and have spoken with him over the course of...

So you do not believe this is true:

You are not speaking with unrepentant nonbelievers. You are speaking with your brothers and sisters.

Which portion of what I said do you disagree with and give a big red X, MarkWilliams? :)

"Just" dies? Does anyone want to die? Don't men fight death? Men struggle to live, not to die. Would being brought to life again only to discover you must then die again but that this time there would be no coming to life ever again be why it would matter??

When a court judges death sentence on a man, he is cast alive into a room, strapped down to a bed, and the sentence of death is carried out. He is cast alive into the room. He does not come out of it still alive. So...you have not furthered your point. And I'm not saying you are right or...

It is just so hard to find men who don't argue to be heard but who argue to learn from each other! And when you do find one, you want to tie him up and hold him hostage. :LOL:

PennEd, I wish you were my neighbor so I could come over and talk on your porch. I would be there every night and you and your wife would be saying, turn out the lights, quick, act like we aren't here. I think Shrume would be there every night too...:) The neighbors would be like, look at those...

So they have a short and temporary life on earth, but that is all? They have no eternal life until they are given the Spirit of God, who is the only eternal one?

Yes, that is correct. Consciousness after death. Yet prior to Jesus death and resurrection, we do not have any such inkling. We only have sleep. So you believe the parable in the NT teaches not sleep any longer, but consciousness in death. And there are many, many verses to support this. BUT...

Another absolutely wonderful morning in here with you guys! I always leave with my head full of many more things to think on! Shrume, penn - thanks!

At least you have begun to see that prophecy does not have to be strictly linear with no gaps in between! It is a very hard thing to keep in your mind as you are reading and building. I even have it posted on postIt notes in a few places - bathroom mirror, bulletin board, on the table - because...

Yes, they never WERE contradictory. And yet they appeared to be contradictory to men and there were arguments over which of the three was true of the Messiah. We are privy to one of those arguments because a man said: No prophet comes from Nazareth, read the scriptures!!

How then could Jesus say of men who had a heartbeat still: let the dead bury their own dead?