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Yes, I got them. For some odd reason it never alerted me though in the little envelope top right of screen...glitch I guess. How do you tie this verse you give with this verse? And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet...

Do you mean eternal conscious torment will not be for humans or do you mean also not for the unholy trinity?

Ben's not here so I'll talk with you. :) Can you explain the ramifications of that spiritual death? I think I understand the physical death part. His body began to age and die and the fruit of the tree of life was withheld so that he would not be able to eat and therefore physically live forever...

I thought you said you were ignoring me because of my lack of being able to reason. :LOL:

I think I might try ben. I'll start here. I'll limit my posts ONLY to replies to you. God made everything to bring forth of its own kind, including adam and eve. Adam and eve died on the day they ate the fruit. But wait a minute...they didn't die on the day they ate of the fruit, so what am I...

You think it is my responsibility to repeat myself to you over and over again...?

By being raised to life again...

Would you say this is a recent development? And that for the first 15 pages I was actually thinking? I do tend to get silly when thought has ceased and tennis begins.

Well...I do honestly think that if there is a thinking man in here who could at least follow my reasoning on the scriptures I've given, (aside from pennepastaEd), that it would most likely be you. But you have read my posts, so I don't know what good dancing the dance again would...

I was just getting ready to reply that he wasn't taking a cheap shot and that he and I were joking around. But then I found out that he wasn't joking with me and was being very serious!

Would you rather I do as you have done and say I disagree and then post the same thing and the same verses I previously posted? I will however apologize for joking around with you. I thought you were joking around so I joked back.

I will reply to you as soon as I can locate the emoticon for poke-in-the-eye-with-a-sharp-stick. :poop:

Again, I disagree. :)

I believe they went thata'way. :) I believe they were all last seen here: and tombs opened. The bodies of many godly men and women who had died were raised from the dead. Mathew 27:52

EI-see-GEE-SUSS all the time...you don't...? :LOL:

Oh come on. :LOL: Okay, nyuck, nyuck, nyuck - I agree the word of God is very clear. But you are not seeing it clearly. This thread has become very similar to slapstick. :ROFL:

And you think THIS statement makes any more sense?? :) If a man is sentenced to death by a judge, he exists while the punishment is pronounced, then he does not exist after the punishment is executed. Now, after he is executed, would you say he received no punishment because he doesn't exist any...

Yeah...Strongs has its limitations. It's a great tool most of the time, but even Strong himself has said that it is not sufficient for a word study, (and especially not in greek.) There's just too many problems using a root concordance - no case forms, no breakdown of verbs into their...

Really?? Are you sure?? I think THIS is allegorizing scripture: eternally dead does not really mean dead - it means the complete opposite of what any man thinks of as dead - it means eternally alive and in eternal torment.

I like that I can hit "like" even when I don't agree with someone. I like and appreciate when a man can have a conversation with me and disagree with me while being respectful and civil. I really appreciate you pennEd. Even though spellcheck doesn't like your name and spells it this way every...