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That's an impressive list of scholars! Do they all say that the entire New testament was originally written completely in Aramaic? I think it's reasonable to say that Paul could speak Greek based on how he is able to participate in debates in the marketplace in Athens and speak on Mars Hill...

I'm not Catholic either. As I understand it, one of the main tenets of Catholicism is that when the apostles and elders of the church (or their successors) all get together, their decisions are guaranteed by the holy Spirit. This is based on Acts chapter 15. Eastern Orthodox Christians...

Again, my brother Jackson, one may wish to be careful about the difference between Believe and Believe in. As Christians, we also believe Moses. But we do not believe in Moses, we believe in Jesus!

Here's the situation as I understand it: Our brother Jackson says that Muslims cannot be worshiping the same God as Christians because Muslims do not accept the trinity or agree that Jesus is God. I've been using Romans 10:2 to try to show that this view also causes a problem for how Paul...

Excellent point!

Yes, that's clearly what Paul is saying. Not only do Jews not understand the trinity, but they don't understand God's plan of righteousness.

Does Paul say that the Jews think they have a zeal of God? Or does Paul say they have a zeal of God? Romans 10:2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. If the word "God" above does not refer to the true God, then it shouldn't be capitalized. Would...

Yes, you can certainly say that Romans 10:2 does not refer to the true God. Romans 10:2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. In the King James quoted above, the word "God" is capitalized, meaning that the translator believes it refers to the true...

My impression was that most people want to use the ancient Greek manuscripts because they believe the New testament was originally written in Greek. Or to put it another way, most English (or major languages) translations of the New testament are translated from the Greek because the...

Romans 10: 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. Well, this is what the translator is saying Paul said. I can think of three options: Paul is wrong. (I don't think either of us would agree with that!) The translator is wrong. The Jews...

Well, the question is "Did the Jews have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge?"

Looks like Chabad has high praise for the Masoretic text, so they're probably using a translation based on that. I think it's pretty much the standard for the Jewish world, and the Christian world with the exception of the Eastern Orthodox. Cool! Which one? Cool again! I believe the...

Romans 10: 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. No, the translator doesn't say that Christians adore muslim God. Neither does he say that Christians do not adore muslim God. What he does say is that Jews had a zeal of God, but not according...

No, Jesus is the true God. And the father is the true God. And the spirit is the true God.

In the same way, Jeremiah 2: 6 Neither did they say, 'Where is the Lord who brought us up out of the land of Egypt, who led us through the wilderness, through a land of deserts and of pits, through a land of drought and of the shadow of death, through a land that none passed through, and...

Your post reminds me of the proverb "It isn't good to have zeal without knowledge; nor being hasty with one's feet and missing the way."

That's cool, we don't have to know everything! But I think your answer is important to the discussion, so we can wait until you do know. I think it's important because I think this question: "Did the Jews have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge?" involves the same philosophical...

Well, then using your standard and approach, translator is lie! He capitalize God, mean true God. True God include Jesus Translator is lie, attack foundation of Christianity.

Which version of the Tanakh/Torah? Do you mean the Masoretic text? Do you read Hebrew? When you say the Hebrew/Aramaic, do you mean this? https://www.thearamaicscriptures.com/ Or something different? Do you read Aramaic? When you say the oldest papyrus dated Translated Greek, which papyrus...

How about a similar question: Did the Jews have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge?