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I'm glad that the *** are there as they are a visual aid pointing to a drifting trend away from what was once sound spiritual value and doctrine.
 

Oncefallen

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@Oncefallen,

May I ask, just to clarify --

I know the rule is that each user is to have only one account (no one is to have multiple accounts.)

But is there any specific rule about how many users can post through one account?

I just wanted to ask so that we all know what the official stance is.
The official stance has always been one account per person, and one person per account if for no other reason that everyone has a decent amount of confidence of whom they are interacting with.
 

Edith

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Dear Subhumannoidal,

The Bible says as a man's name is, so is he. I wonder why a person would choose an evil name when there are so many fantastic bible names that are edifying to other people. When they read the person's names, like Abraham, Issac, Jacob, Moses, etc., you could have called yourself Calvery Cross, Golgotha, or Gethsemane. But you did not choose any of those names. You choose sub-humanoid, and that is what you are. You decided to call yourselves sub-humanoid. The name subhumanoid is an offence to the Lord God. Subhumanoid is a sin offence to God. Your choice indicated that you would rebelliously and stiff necked you would cling to your sins while declaring your innocence. But I have told thousands of individuals about the Lord Jesus' great love for mankind and how the Lord God loves you very much. If you were the only person in the world, the Lord Jesus would have suffered and gone to Calvery's cross so you could be saved. Jesus loves you so much. If you realize how much Jesus loves you, you will be amazed at Jesus's supernatural, powerful, holy love for you. And Jesus, the one person without sin, wants you, a Godless sinner, to repent and come to him today while you can. The Bible says now is the acceptable time to come to the Lord and be saved. The Bible say:



Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts. Proverbs 21:2: You can be saved by believing and trusting in The Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth; repent of your sins and stop willfully sinning. Jesus can change your hard heart to a fleshly, soft heart. The Lord really wants to save you from hell and damnation. Do you know that in hell, there is no water to drink? If you don't think that would be utterly agonizing, try going a few days without drinking any fluids and let me know how that goes for you. The Bible says:


  1. He called out, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am in agony in these flames.' Luke 16:24 The Bible says:
The phrase "devil masquerades as an angel of the light" is a biblical reference . This verse states that Satan disguises himself as an angel of light to deceive people into believing he is good and truthful. This deception is part of Satan's strategy to lead people away from God and into sin. The verse serves as a warning to believers to be cautious and discerning, as Satan often uses false pretenses to manipulate and mislead. 2 corinthians 11:14. Subhamanoid you said you have been listening to metal for 36 years. You are aware of music that can negatively impact or "affect." on you, and you avoid it. Do you speak as someone who thinks he can establish the boundary of good and evil for himself? Also, he doesn't feel it is important to abstain from evil music or things with evil logos written all over them. The Bible says we are not to touch any evil thing that is known to be dedicated to the devil or demons. I know that Violence and lying go hand in hand. Sub-humanoid said that most of the band was not into satanism. Is not Satan called the father of lies, and if one of the band members is a satan worshiper, they all are because they have willingly accepted that evil person{s} into their band? The Bible says: can two men walk to gather and not agree? The Bible says one bad or rotten fig will turn the whole basket of figs rotten. Subhumanoid: do you think you are mentally strong enough to ward off all the wilds of the devil, or do you believe you are more abundant in wisdom than Our Lord God?
Jeremiah 24:2
Hey Daisy I don't know exactly what happened but please my dear Sub's name on the letter or if possible delete it please. I totally thought sub sent the letter so I like it. Your mom may be right but that remains if it was only to you because I guess she does not know Sub.
with love
 

Edith

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Hey
Depression has various physical or emotional causes.
I once knew a guy who told me he had issues with depression. I gave him advice on how to handle it. He took it and it changed his life. He simply needed to make some lifestyle changes.
Such things do not work on me. I started taking meds for my depression, recently. It has helped some.
I also went through years of anxiety and panic attacks. Fortunately I eventually managed to work my way past it, without meds. But it's possible for it to return under the right circumstances.

I believe music is subjective to each person.
But after 36 years of listening to metal of all kinds, I know what to look for to avoid.
I'm aware of music that can have a negative impact on me, and I avoid it.
I also listen to things other than metal.

Someone having a dream does not, to me, equate as proof of anything.

Much of the Satanism or occultism displayed in metal isn't really what they believe. It's just a gimmick.
I spoke to a secular band that used satanic symbols on their album cover. They admitted most of the band was not into Satanism or the occult, but it was just a gimmick.
They were all really nice people, actually. One member shared that she tried to go to a church once, seeking help and curious about God. And she was kicked out and shoo'd away because of her clothing. And was not welcome back.


Ecclesiastes 7:3
Sorrow is better than laughter,
for sadness has a refining influence on us.
Hey Sub I know and I am so sure you are a good Christian. I think the phase you went through some of us went through and we are back. no one judged us and we will not judge others. We will only express the love of Christ that binds us all
much love to you dear
 

Suze

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Depression has various physical or emotional causes.
I once knew a guy who told me he had issues with depression. I gave him advice on how to handle it. He took it and it changed his life. He simply needed to make some lifestyle changes.
Such things do not work on me. I started taking meds for my depression, recently. It has helped some.
I also went through years of anxiety and panic attacks. Fortunately I eventually managed to work my way past it, without meds. But it's possible for it to return under the right circumstances.

I believe music is subjective to each person.
But after 36 years of listening to metal of all kinds, I know what to look for to avoid.
I'm aware of music that can have a negative impact on me, and I avoid it.
I also listen to things other than metal.

Someone having a dream does not, to me, equate as proof of anything.

Much of the Satanism or occultism displayed in metal isn't really what they believe. It's just a gimmick.
I spoke to a secular band that used satanic symbols on their album cover. They admitted most of the band was not into Satanism or the occult, but it was just a gimmick.
They were all really nice people, actually. One member shared that she tried to go to a church once, seeking help and curious about God. And she was kicked out and shoo'd away because of her clothing. And was not welcome back.


Ecclesiastes 7:3
Sorrow is better than laughter,
for sadness has a refining influence on us.
Yes it's true for sure that satanism is used as a sales gimmick . One of mine and my hubbies favourite bands is black sabbath , they took their name from an old Italian horror movie . In the 1970's in the UK , horror movies such as dracula , were very popular , so this band took that name in order to attract attention to themselves . It's true that most of the band members took a lot of drugs when they were young but so did and do , a lot of people , that in itself doesn't make them satanists . I have actually met two members of the band Tony Iommi and Ronnie James Dio , Ronnie several times and , two nicer men it would b harder to meet . People do a lot of crazy things when they r young and trying to draw attention to themselves , I know I did . My grandma had many wise sayings , one of which was : where there's life there's hope , people can and do change and that can happen to anyone anytime . As long as someone is alive then they can change , once u r dead.....well , there's no going back from that 😜 .
I believe that all talents r God given and that God already knows everything about everyone so , He knows how everyone , that He gives talents to , will use them . Both my husband and I absolutely love music and it has helped us both during our lives , together and before we met . I like everything from Beethoven to Warren Zevon . As Christians , I think that we r often very sensitive souls that can b very easily , negatively affected by the things that we c and hear going on in this world , that's definitely true of me . We all need things in this life that cheer us up and as we r individuals , the things that do cheer us up , will b very different from person to person . As long as we r not hurting anyone , or our relationship with our God , then we r free to enjoy the distractions of this world , keeping in mind that that is all they r , distractions , nothing more . God knows our hearts and minds and He alone , knows what we need to stay healthy , physically , mentally , emotionally and spiritually .
 

Suze

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I keep attracting dark gals.. Goths.. witches.. and etc.

I do not get it, often it happens when I am shining in my Christian ways.

I keep thinking of the verse,
"In that day seven women will take hold of one man and say, “We will eat our own food and provide our own clothes; only let us be called by your name. Take away our disgrace!” (Isaiah 4:`1).

Other than that.. I guess it could be sabotage plans from the enemy camp.

Any advice?
I do have to wonder where it is that u r hanging out in order to attract these ' dark girls ' ? What kind of places r u meeting them ? Maybe u should frequent places where Christian girls r more likely to b found ? Just the first thought that came into my head when I read your post . I would genuinely b interested to know where u actually r when they gravitate towards u ?
 
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Hey Sub I know and I am so sure you are a good Christian. I think the phase you went through some of us went through and we are back. no one judged us and we will not judge others. We will only express the love of Christ that binds us all
much love to you dear
Thank you Edith. Appreciated.
 
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Yes it's true for sure that satanism is used as a sales gimmick . One of mine and my hubbies favourite bands is black sabbath , they took their name from an old Italian horror movie . In the 1970's in the UK , horror movies such as dracula , were very popular , so this band took that name in order to attract attention to themselves . It's true that most of the band members took a lot of drugs when they were young but so did and do , a lot of people , that in itself doesn't make them satanists . I have actually met two members of the band Tony Iommi and Ronnie James Dio , Ronnie several times and , two nicer men it would b harder to meet . People do a lot of crazy things when they r young and trying to draw attention to themselves , I know I did . My grandma had many wise sayings , one of which was : where there's life there's hope , people can and do change and that can happen to anyone anytime . As long as someone is alive then they can change , once u r dead.....well , there's no going back from that 😜 .
I believe that all talents r God given and that God already knows everything about everyone so , He knows how everyone , that He gives talents to , will use them . Both my husband and I absolutely love music and it has helped us both during our lives , together and before we met . I like everything from Beethoven to Warren Zevon . As Christians , I think that we r often very sensitive souls that can b very easily , negatively affected by the things that we c and hear going on in this world , that's definitely true of me . We all need things in this life that cheer us up and as we r individuals , the things that do cheer us up , will b very different from person to person . As long as we r not hurting anyone , or our relationship with our God , then we r free to enjoy the distractions of this world , keeping in mind that that is all they r , distractions , nothing more . God knows our hearts and minds and He alone , knows what we need to stay healthy , physically , mentally , emotionally and spiritually .
I appreciate the support.

You met Iommi and Dio? That's pretty cool. I was never a huge fan of Black Sabbath, but always respected them for their place in musical history.
I've never met any big time musicians, sadly.
According to members of the band, their musical sound was inspired by where they lived when they started.

I, too, enjoy all kinds of music.
As a teen I used heavy and aggressive music to help me vent my feelings. I had some anger and, of course, depression to deal with.
So I'd put on headphones, crank up the volume to some Pantera, and begin writing song lyrics that I vented through. Without that i think I'd have had a harder time back then.
 

Suze

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I appreciate the support.

You met Iommi and Dio? That's pretty cool. I was never a huge fan of Black Sabbath, but always respected them for their place in musical history.
I've never met any big time musicians, sadly.
According to members of the band, their musical sound was inspired by where they lived when they started.

I, too, enjoy all kinds of music.
As a teen I used heavy and aggressive music to help me vent my feelings. I had some anger and, of course, depression to deal with.
So I'd put on headphones, crank up the volume to some Pantera, and begin writing song lyrics that I vented through. Without that i think I'd have had a harder time back then.
Yep , music can b very therapeutic , my hubby firmly believes that Ronnie James Dio kept him out of jail 😆 he was devasated when Ronnie died . But , his music lives on 🤘 .
 
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Yes it's true for sure that satanism is used as a sales gimmick . One of mine and my hubbies favourite bands is black sabbath , they took their name from an old Italian horror movie . In the 1970's in the UK , horror movies such as dracula , were very popular , so this band took that name in order to attract attention to themselves . It's true that most of the band members took a lot of drugs when they were young but so did and do , a lot of people , that in itself doesn't make them satanists . I have actually met two members of the band Tony Iommi and Ronnie James Dio , Ronnie several times and , two nicer men it would b harder to meet . People do a lot of crazy things when they r young and trying to draw attention to themselves , I know I did . My grandma had many wise sayings , one of which was : where there's life there's hope , people can and do change and that can happen to anyone anytime . As long as someone is alive then they can change , once u r dead.....well , there's no going back from that 😜 .
I believe that all talents r God given and that God already knows everything about everyone so , He knows how everyone , that He gives talents to , will use them . Both my husband and I absolutely love music and it has helped us both during our lives , together and before we met . I like everything from Beethoven to Warren Zevon . As Christians , I think that we r often very sensitive souls that can b very easily , negatively affected by the things that we c and hear going on in this world , that's definitely true of me . We all need things in this life that cheer us up and as we r individuals , the things that do cheer us up , will b very different from person to person . As long as we r not hurting anyone , or our relationship with our God , then we r free to enjoy the distractions of this world , keeping in mind that that is all they r , distractions , nothing more . God knows our hearts and minds and He alone , knows what we need to stay healthy , physically , mentally , emotionally and spiritually .

God Is Dead? Song by Black Sabbath
Lost in the darkness

I fade from the light

Faith of my father, my brother, my maker and savior

Help me make it through the night

Blood on my conscience

And murder in mind

Out of the gloom I rise up from my tomb into impending doom

Now my body is my shrine

The blood runs free, the rain turns red

Give me the wine, you keep the bread

The voices echo in my head

Is God alive or is God dead?

Is God dead?

Rivers of evil

Run through dying land

Swimming in sorrow, they kill, steal and borrow, there is no tomorrow

For the sinners will be damned

Ashes to ashes

You cannot exhume a soul

Who do you trust when corruption and lust, creed of all the unjust

Leaves you empty and unwhole?

When will this nightmare be over? Tell me!

When can I empty my head?

Will someone tell me the answer?

Is God really dead?

Is God really dead?

To safeguard my philosophy until my dying breath

I transfer from reality into a living dead

I empathize with enemies until the timing's right

With God and Satan at my side from darkness will come light

I watch the rain as it turns red

Give me more wine I don't need bread

These riddles that live in my head

I don't believe that God is dead!

God is dead?

Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide

Wondering if we will meet again on the other side

Do you believe a word what The Good Book says

Or is it just a holy fairytale and God is dead?

God is dead!

God is dead!

God is dead!

God is dead!

Right!

But still the voices in my head

Are telling me that God is dead

The blood pours down, the rain turns red

I don't believe that God is dead

God is dead!

God is dead!

God is dead!

Songwriters: Tony Iommi, John Osbourne, Terrence Butler.


Do you like and support this band? Don't songs like this make you mad?
 

Suze

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God Is Dead? Song by Black Sabbath
Lost in the darkness

I fade from the light

Faith of my father, my brother, my maker and savior

Help me make it through the night

Blood on my conscience

And murder in mind

Out of the gloom I rise up from my tomb into impending doom

Now my body is my shrine

The blood runs free, the rain turns red

Give me the wine, you keep the bread

The voices echo in my head

Is God alive or is God dead?

Is God dead?

Rivers of evil

Run through dying land

Swimming in sorrow, they kill, steal and borrow, there is no tomorrow

For the sinners will be damned

Ashes to ashes

You cannot exhume a soul

Who do you trust when corruption and lust, creed of all the unjust

Leaves you empty and unwhole?

When will this nightmare be over? Tell me!

When can I empty my head?

Will someone tell me the answer?

Is God really dead?

Is God really dead?

To safeguard my philosophy until my dying breath

I transfer from reality into a living dead

I empathize with enemies until the timing's right

With God and Satan at my side from darkness will come light

I watch the rain as it turns red

Give me more wine I don't need bread

These riddles that live in my head

I don't believe that God is dead!

God is dead?

Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide

Wondering if we will meet again on the other side

Do you believe a word what The Good Book says

Or is it just a holy fairytale and God is dead?

God is dead!

God is dead!

God is dead!

God is dead!

Right!

But still the voices in my head

Are telling me that God is dead

The blood pours down, the rain turns red

I don't believe that God is dead

God is dead!

God is dead!

God is dead!

Songwriters: Tony Iommi, John Osbourne, Terrence Butler.


Do you like and support this band? Don't songs like this make you mad?
There r only a few things that get me mad and song lyrics r not on the list . Mercy and forgiveness r the foundations of Christianity .
 

Subhumanoidal

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God Is Dead? Song by Black Sabbath
Lost in the darkness

I fade from the light

Faith of my father, my brother, my maker and savior

Help me make it through the night

Blood on my conscience

And murder in mind

Out of the gloom I rise up from my tomb into impending doom

Now my body is my shrine

The blood runs free, the rain turns red

Give me the wine, you keep the bread

The voices echo in my head

Is God alive or is God dead?

Is God dead?

Rivers of evil

Run through dying land

Swimming in sorrow, they kill, steal and borrow, there is no tomorrow

For the sinners will be damned

Ashes to ashes

You cannot exhume a soul

Who do you trust when corruption and lust, creed of all the unjust

Leaves you empty and unwhole?

When will this nightmare be over? Tell me!

When can I empty my head?

Will someone tell me the answer?

Is God really dead?

Is God really dead?

To safeguard my philosophy until my dying breath

I transfer from reality into a living dead

I empathize with enemies until the timing's right

With God and Satan at my side from darkness will come light

I watch the rain as it turns red

Give me more wine I don't need bread

These riddles that live in my head

I don't believe that God is dead!

God is dead?

Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide

Wondering if we will meet again on the other side

Do you believe a word what The Good Book says

Or is it just a holy fairytale and God is dead?

God is dead!

God is dead!

God is dead!

God is dead!

Right!

But still the voices in my head

Are telling me that God is dead

The blood pours down, the rain turns red

I don't believe that God is dead

God is dead!

God is dead!

God is dead!

Songwriters: Tony Iommi, John Osbourne, Terrence Butler.


Do you like and support this band? Don't songs like this make you mad?
Sounds to me like a song expressing his struggles about God's existence. Which is to be expected from a non-believer. It doesn't make it satanic or evil to express those thoughts.
 

Subhumanoidal

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Yep , music can b very therapeutic , my hubby firmly believes that Ronnie James Dio kept him out of jail 😆 he was devasated when Ronnie died . But , his music lives on 🤘 .
Yes, if God can use a talking camel doesn't that show He can choose whatever He wishes to speak to someone?
As a teen, during my struggles as a young Christian, I was watching a Batman movie. The movie was really focused on Wayne's struggle between two opposing parts of himself. Batman vs Bruce Wayne. That movie, at that time, helped me to recognize more clearly my own struggle between my body and my spirit. This causing me to see with more clarity about my struggle was a big help.
Do I believe the movie was Christian in any way? No. God used a camel (or perhaps a bat in this case haha) to speak to me.
Not music related but still an example of how God can use the most unlikely things to speak to us.
Also as a teen the music i listened to showed me that there was a lot I didn't know about the world around me yet. And helped to inform me in preparation for the future. Kept me from being in shock when I got older and was personally exposed to many of these things.
 

Subhumanoidal

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Hey Daisy I don't know exactly what happened but please my dear Sub's name on the letter or if possible delete it please. I totally thought sub sent the letter so I like it. Your mom may be right but that remains if it was only to you because I guess she does not know Sub.
with love
In the US, and some other countries, when beginning to write a letter, it is common for people to begin this way. Or a variation of it.
Usually not posted in forums, though.
 
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Sounds to me like a song expressing his struggles about God's existence.
Which is to be expected from a non-believer. It doesn't make it satanic or evil to express those thoughts.



I disagree with your answer and would say your heart is wrong toward the Lord Jesus Christ or God. You have lost all your innocence because of your worldly ways. How can you know God? How can you be saved, seeing how rebellious you are in loving your sins? How can you keep God's commandments? It would take a miracle for you to be saved, but with the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth, he can do anything. Don't you care about other people who could be led away from God by listening to evil music? When you are telling them it is okay to sin by touching things dedicated to the devil. Is there no fear of God before your eyes? I am trying to reason with you here because I care about your soul. My Christian duty is to warn everyone I see doing wrong of the impending doom that awaits them in hell for their denial of God's commandments that we are not to sin willfully, keeping ourselves pure like God. You can regain your chastity with Jesus Christ if you are not innocent. He will help you.

Many people have the wrong idea about preachers and Christians, thinking they are all forgiving and will wink at your sins, telling you to try harder as you go your way, plan your weekend trip. Well, I care about you, and I don't want you to end up in hell, and I don't want you to go around sinning against others. I want you to repent and be saved today. I have read a lot of your words, but none of them you wrote was about repenting. What a rebellious generation who can be saved. But with the lord jesus christ, everything is possible. Amen. And like Jonah's days, so will be the days of this generation. What's the big idea?
When the call of God came to him, Jonah could not see beyond his own selfish desire for God to punish the Assyrians. How could God want him to send such people a message of mercy? Before Jonah could relay God's message, he had to be broken. He had to learn something about the mercy of the Lord. Through his flight to Tarshish, his shipwreck, and his time in the great fish, Jonah was convinced in a powerful way that all salvation comes from the Lord (Jonah 2:9). And because of God's supreme power, only God decides where to pour out His salvation and His mercy (4:11). Amen.