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Grace-Like-Rain

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This article is SATIRE, however... it hits a little close to home if you ask me. What are your thoughts on the Church's new habit of calling everyday activities that all Christians are called to do "ministries"? Are there good things about doing this? Can you think of examples of regular activities that Christians have dubbed "ministries" which are really just supposed to be us, living life as we're called to?

Church Declares Every Possible Activity A Ministry | The Babylon Bee
 
Do churches really take it this far? I dunno - I may be a little out of touch. Especially considering that there's only so many opportunities in a small congregation. This sounds like something a mega-church would do.

(I can't imagine your fellowship ever doing something like that, either, Ange.)
 
Do churches really take it this far? I dunno - I may be a little out of touch. Especially considering that there's only so many opportunities in a small congregation. This sounds like something a mega-church would do.

(I can't imagine your fellowship ever doing something like that, either, Ange.)

Well no, churches don't take it THAT far - that's where the satire comes in. And my church doesn't do this, but I have heard of fishing ministries and shopping ministries and lake ministries. I've heard of people who spend their weekends in the bar drinking in the name of ministry. I'm just wondering where we draw the line, and how comfortable we have really gotten with labeling something a ministry in order to perhaps increase it's importance in the eyes of others.
 
This article is SATIRE, however... it hits a little close to home if you ask me. What are your thoughts on the Church's new habit of calling everyday activities that all Christians are called to do "ministries"? Are there good things about doing this? Can you think of examples of regular activities that Christians have dubbed "ministries" which are really just supposed to be us, living life as we're called to?

Church Declares Every Possible Activity A Ministry | The Babylon Bee

Hey Grace :)!

Wow, is this article really a satirical piece? It sounded dead serious... and not very far from what we see everywhere in society today--including churches.

This subject is tough because I've been in some churches that had a clear, if unspoken, "Hierarchy of Ministry and Importance," based on how "spiritual" your "work" was. If you planned to be a pastor or teacher within that denomination, you were top dog. However, if you were a businessman, you were seen as someone in dangerous need of being "kept within the fences", lest you be tempted by the love of money. However, if you were giving a good portion of that money to the church, you were definitely more highly regarded and the fact that you had a "worldly" profession was more generously overlooked.

There has to be a balance in which every Christian holds value. Surely the Christian parent who fights the battle every day of raising his/her kids against the world's standards has an all-important ministry at home. After all, Paul said, "Whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all to the glory of God." (1 Cor. 10:31)

But like all things in life, where is the line? When is someone who sleeps in all the time, or doesn't want to change out of their pajamas... just plain lazy, and needs to be held accountable for their behavior? (I'm not saying all people who oversleep or want to stay home are lazy--I don't oversleep but more often than not, I want to stay home--but I think you know what I mean.)

This article reminded me of another one I read recently about a man who was participating in a group for sex addiction. The longest relationship he'd have with a woman was maybe a week or however long it took for him to become bored with that person. At the group meeting, he was told that he "did not have a problem, but rather, a sickness he couldn't help," and that "there wasn't anything wrong" with him, but that he was someone who was "trying to get better", and should receive a lot of pats on the along the way for his efforts.

This mindset embodies today's "entitled" culture: "I'm not at fault. There's nothing wrong with me, and I'm fine just the way I am. At most, I might have a sickness, but that's not my fault either, and I deserve a lot of credit and constant praise for even trying to improve", even if that means "getting help" and never putting it into practice.

I am all for finding ways to make use of everyone's talents, but there is a fine line between social groups as ministries and social groups that have no foundation in faith. I was envisioning a "Let's Go Grab a Beer After Work 'Ministry'", and while I have nothing against someone having a beer, anyone can see how this could go downhill very quickly, especially if they think they're participating in "ministry work" that justifies social drinking.

I'm not saying social drinking is wrong (though I choose not to in most cases), but for my own personal convictions, this would probably cross a line. (I'm envisioning being turned into the Designated Driver of the group who is expected to get everyone home safely because they all got "caught up" "in the ministry" that night.)

However, the culture today (and the church along with it) is losing any sense of discernment. This article seems to say, "Do whatever you want," which eliminates any need for sacrifice, picking up our crosses and denying our flesh, and obeying God even when we don't want to.

So not only is it saying, "Go ahead and do (or don't do) whatever you feel like doing (or not doing), because we'll just slap the word 'Ministry' on it and you can believe you're doing great things for the Lord", which easily fits the culture of the day, but not the God of the Bible.

*Just read Shour's post.* This article actually felt all too real to me... in some of the churches I've attended and people I've spoken to.
 
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I think I checked out as soon as I read, "yoga ministry". Some discernment is needed there! :p

There is some room to 'elevate' some activities to the status of 'ministry'; however, I think that merely talking about something vaguely spiritual doesn't quite cut it for me. If there is no intention to bring people closer to Christ through the activity, and clear components of the activity which make space for Him, it ain't ministry. It might be fellowship, which is also good, but said fellowship ideally makes space for and leads into ministry and is not a deceptive replacement for it.

Okay, I'm done preaching now... :)
 
This is a really interesting topic because it also reminds of a guest speaker at my old church. He was meeting with a group of leaders within another church, and believed he had a message from the Lord for one particular gentleman.

The speaker kept trying to call the man "pastor" and the man kept saying, "I'm not a pastor... I'm NOT a pastor..."

But it turns out that this slightly older gentleman was hosting regular meetings in his home for the young men in the congregation. Their "meetings" consisted of cookouts, watching or playing sports games, and hanging out, but during that time, many of the men would share the problems they were going through. Several were young marrieds and were unsure how to handle adjustments such as becoming a new parent. They saw this man as a big brother/father figure, and he would often counsel and pray with them.

The speaker told this man, "The Lord wants you to know... that you are his 'casual' pastor", because this man was definitely ministering to these men, but in a very informal setting.
 
Wow that's a crazy article even though our leisure can be ministry there is a difference between leisure and ministry. as a joke so we should expect if someone's shoes need to be tied we need to do'' ministry "and go crazy about tieing shoes? Christians shouldn't look to the world for guidance for ministry let the Lord lead the best dexample is his life in the gospels that's where we get the definition of Ministry
 
Heh heh.

The name of this thread just came up in my subscription list right under the "Flirting Tips" thread, so the whole thing together at a glance read, "Flirting Tips Ministry."

Can someone please tell me where the sign-up sheet is for that...
 
Well no, churches don't take it THAT far - that's where the satire comes in. And my church doesn't do this, but I have heard of fishing ministries and shopping ministries and lake ministries. I've heard of people who spend their weekends in the bar drinking in the name of ministry. I'm just wondering where we draw the line, and how comfortable we have really gotten with labeling something a ministry in order to perhaps increase it's importance in the eyes of others.
I'm doing my browsing ministry work right now.. soon to be followed by my late night snack ministry and sleep ministry...
 
Apologies to the OP, a troll hit this thread a couple of days ago and one of the newer Mods in an attempt to clean up the thread inadvertently pulled the whole thread off the public forums rather than just the offensive posts.
 
can i be a part of the eating-chocolate-ministry?

or eating-pizza ministry?

or eating-ice-cream ministry?

no?

ok :(

:p
 
Sigh. The last 3 years of Jesus' life on earth, is THE ministry. Amazing how far our minds can throw us, especially without discernment and guidance from the Holy Spirit.
Yes we're all called to do the work of THE ministry.
 
There are lots if Churchism out there.

A another good one is "stepping down" from "ministry". Lol

Its Churchism for saying someone does not want to do it anymore, but
stepping down somehow sounds more graceful/humble etc. :)
 
Wait... a ministry of going to the bar and drinking?

Say, where do I sign up for... well, let's just say in theory, if I wanted to join one of these hypothetical ministries, where would I sign up for it? :D :D :D
 
can i be a part of the eating-chocolate-ministry?

or eating-pizza ministry?

or eating-ice-cream ministry?

no?

ok :(

:p

*Swipes Melita's chocolate, pizza, ice cream... and RUNS!*

I'm just serving the Lord, Ma'am.

I'm part of the "Food Relocation Ministry"

Don't worry, you're doing your part as well--feeding the hungry. :p
 
There are lots if Churchism out there.

A another good one is "stepping down" from "ministry". Lol

Its Churchism for saying someone does not want to do it anymore, but
stepping down somehow sounds more graceful/humble etc. :)

Have you ever thought about what churchisms sound like to people who've never been around Christians?


"Have you asked Jesus into your heart?"

"Let us lay hands on our brother..."

"Slain in the Spirit"

"This wine is my blood, poured out for you.. drink it in remembrance of me"

It probably sounds pretty strange to non-believers.

(The word "nonbelievers" makes us sound like a cult, haha. Oops.)

I take some comfort in knowing that Jesus Himself caused some incredulous questions and mass confusion too.
 
This article is SATIRE, however... it hits a little close to home if you ask me. What are your thoughts on the Church's new habit of calling everyday activities that all Christians are called to do "ministries"? Are there good things about doing this? Can you think of examples of regular activities that Christians have dubbed "ministries" which are really just supposed to be us, living life as we're called to?

With stuff like this going on in "churches" is it any wonder that unbelievers have no respect for Christianity? Personally I couldn't leave a phony baloney church like this fast enough.