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as for Hebrews passage. People love to use this passage to prove one can lose salvation. Yet that is not what it was written for.
1. Hebrews was written to hebrew christians to warn them about jews trying to bring these believers back to law
2. The law states if you sin, a sacrifice must be given again to allow forgiveness of that new sin.
3. In the passage in question, people want to focus on two words "fall away" and not look at the true point. "if"
If used in scripture and all writtings have three meanings.
If - but you will
If - Maybe you will, maybe you won't
If - But you wont.
we find examples of this all through scripture.
No lets look at the word
If is the important word. The way sentence structure goes. and "If" statement is followed with a "then" statement.
"If"this happens "then" or "if" you do this "then"
according to this passage, the "if "statement is as follows;
"if you fall away" the falling away is the "If" what what is the "then" that follows? "to renew them again to repentance"
of course if one looks, there is a break in the sentence,
"If" they fall away, to renew them to repentance."
we are still looking for what is"impossible"
a good way to look at it would be to us an example sentence to see how it is used.
"for it is impossible, for those who are virgins. if they have sex, to renew them again to viginity.
in other words, if your a virgin, once you have sex, you can never be a virgin again.
the author here is saying plain and simple,
if you are truly saved, if you fall away, it would be impossible for you to be renewed to salvation again.
so it is dangerous to say this PROVES you can lose salvation. because if that is what it is saying, the consequences are out of this word. Once a person loses his eternal life. he can never be saved again, EVER!
Now we take the three examples.
If - but you won't
If maybe you will maybe you wont
if but you will..
which one fits?
Since all scripture points that once a person is saved he has eternal life, and the eternal seal of God himself. Then it must be the first one.. If they could fall away, but they can't, they could never be renewed..
Going back to my first three points. the law. The author makes it clear. teaching this law. and saying one can lose salvation. You are crucifying christ all over, and put him to shame. why? your saying his death was not sufficient for all sin. that there was some sin he forgot to pay for.
now look at the next verses which follow.
For the earth which drinks in the rain that often comes upon it, and bears herbs useful for those by whom it is cultivated, receives blessing from God; 8 but if it bears thorns and briers, it is rejected and near to being cursed, whose end is to be burned
The author makes it clear. Many will be saved, but remain babes in Christ. Why? they did not leave the elementary principles of Christ and move on to maturity (vs 1 - 2) and thus did not produce fruit. Thus when they get to heaven, their reward will not show. it will be burned, as wood hey and straw. As Paul said to the corinthian church. Paul used the same language, He makes it clear, they will STILL BE SAVED, Even as though through fire (near to being cursed)
1. Hebrews was written to hebrew christians to warn them about jews trying to bring these believers back to law
2. The law states if you sin, a sacrifice must be given again to allow forgiveness of that new sin.
3. In the passage in question, people want to focus on two words "fall away" and not look at the true point. "if"
If used in scripture and all writtings have three meanings.
If - but you will
If - Maybe you will, maybe you won't
If - But you wont.
we find examples of this all through scripture.
No lets look at the word
If is the important word. The way sentence structure goes. and "If" statement is followed with a "then" statement.
"If"this happens "then" or "if" you do this "then"
according to this passage, the "if "statement is as follows;
"if you fall away" the falling away is the "If" what what is the "then" that follows? "to renew them again to repentance"
of course if one looks, there is a break in the sentence,
"If" they fall away, to renew them to repentance."
we are still looking for what is"impossible"
a good way to look at it would be to us an example sentence to see how it is used.
"for it is impossible, for those who are virgins. if they have sex, to renew them again to viginity.
in other words, if your a virgin, once you have sex, you can never be a virgin again.
the author here is saying plain and simple,
if you are truly saved, if you fall away, it would be impossible for you to be renewed to salvation again.
so it is dangerous to say this PROVES you can lose salvation. because if that is what it is saying, the consequences are out of this word. Once a person loses his eternal life. he can never be saved again, EVER!
Now we take the three examples.
If - but you won't
If maybe you will maybe you wont
if but you will..
which one fits?
Since all scripture points that once a person is saved he has eternal life, and the eternal seal of God himself. Then it must be the first one.. If they could fall away, but they can't, they could never be renewed..
Going back to my first three points. the law. The author makes it clear. teaching this law. and saying one can lose salvation. You are crucifying christ all over, and put him to shame. why? your saying his death was not sufficient for all sin. that there was some sin he forgot to pay for.
now look at the next verses which follow.
For the earth which drinks in the rain that often comes upon it, and bears herbs useful for those by whom it is cultivated, receives blessing from God; 8 but if it bears thorns and briers, it is rejected and near to being cursed, whose end is to be burned
The author makes it clear. Many will be saved, but remain babes in Christ. Why? they did not leave the elementary principles of Christ and move on to maturity (vs 1 - 2) and thus did not produce fruit. Thus when they get to heaven, their reward will not show. it will be burned, as wood hey and straw. As Paul said to the corinthian church. Paul used the same language, He makes it clear, they will STILL BE SAVED, Even as though through fire (near to being cursed)
