Sparks Will Fly! (What Do You Think of Electric Vehicles?)

[seoulsearch]

Hey Everybody,

This thread was inspired by a picture someone posted in a financial Discord a few days ago:

One member commented, "Finally! A cyber truck I can afford!"

What do you all think of the push towards electric vehicles? I'm in a state that is in the process of outlawing the purchase of new gas vehicles -- apparently, you can buy used, but you won't be able to buy anything new unless it's electric. I have a nearly 11-year-old gas car that's still in good shape, and I plan on driving it 'til the wheels fall off.

But by the time I do need a different car, I joked with friends that I'm going to be like Mad Max, searching through the automotive graveyards for an "antique" gas car.

I have family members who have a Tesla and love it, but I'm not interested in one for myself. There was one day we drove around in circles until we found the shadiest spot in the very back of the parking lot -- because if the car got too hot, the battery would drain much faster.

I've also read about how tires have to be replaced more often (because the vehicles are heavier,) the batteries cost half the cost of a new car to replace, and when I saw those news reports of Tesla drivers being stranded for hours in the winter (some with young children) because the batteries wouldn't charge, I decided that I am going to put off having to get one for as long as I can.

How about all of you?

* Are you interested in getting an electric vehicle? Why or why not?

* Do you have the setup (electric connection, etc.) to support owning an electric vehicle?

* Do you feel that electric vehicles will help the environment?

* Would you still get an electric vehicle even if it was more expensive (both in price and maintenance costs?)

* Do you believe electric cars will vastly improve the environment?

Electric car companies are a hot topic in some chats I'm in, so I was wondering how our Christian community feels about them as well.

Looking forward to your answers!

 

[Tall_Timbers]

I hope I never own an electric vehicle unless there are some major advances in charging speed and charge duration (in miles). I suspect that electric vehicles, from the collection of the raw resources needed to build one to the vehicle grave, are worse for the environment than gassers. I don't think electric vehicles are a viable transportation solution except for people who will never want to leave the town they live in on a road trip.

I think hybrids are a good idea. I own a hybrid truck (not a plug-in hybrid) and expect I'll own other hybrids in the future if I live long enough. I think hydrogen fueled vehicles may prove to be a good thing... time will tell, I guess.

EVs will not improve the environment.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

Cracks me up about this philosophy going "Green." Tesla creator and Electric Vehicle Pioneer Elon Musk flat out said the Battery Chargers required all over the fuel stops require as much fossil fuels as any normal vehicle running on corn, ether, petro.

But I guess the advantage is there by only using fossil fuel to charge half a million chargers versus 2 billion vehicles that is less fossil fuel being used.

But it will be a cold day in hades before I turn in my mopar carbs, holley carbs, even older versions of fuel injector that requires distributers.

 

[Lynx]

You thought of a title I didn't think of!

We need more infrastructure before they can be considered viable. When every fast food place has electric ports beside at least half the parking spots, then I'll get an electric car. Let my car charge while I'm eating.

Until then, I'll stick with proven technology. I'm not exactly an eager early adopter of anything.

 

[Susanna]

I’m not getting a new car. When my gasoline powered car is out of miles I’m going to take the Mercedes I inherited from my dad out of the garage. It has less than a thousand miles on its odometer. I think I can get by until gas is banned lol.

 

[Cameron143]

EV's are not about saving the planet. They are about controlling people and money.
Fun facts:
...the production of electric vehicles is more detrimental to the environment than gasoline powered vehicles. The mining for the metals necessary for the batteries results in a brand new electric vehicle having the same environmental impact as a gasoline powered vehicle with 80,000 miles driven before it is even sold.
...the electric grid runs predominantly off of coal and natural gas. So powering the batteries continues to require fossil fuels and impact the environment.
...there exists little infrastructure in the US to power electric vehicles. Billions of dollars were appropriated to build the infrastructure, but over the last three and a half years only 7 charging facilities have been built at a cost to the taxpayers of 7 billion dollars.
...due to government mandates, more taxpayer money is being given as incentives to purchase electric. This has a dual effect of increasing taxes as well as driving up the price of all vehicles to cover the car manufacturers' losses associated with the production of a largely unwanted product.
...the increase in prices on vehicles increases the amount of fixing wrecked vehicles, which in turn accelerates the price of automobile insurance coverage.
...as always, follow the money. Who really is aided by the change from gasoline powered to electric vehicles? Hint...it's not you.

 

[seoulsearch]

Until then, I'll stick with proven technology. I'm not exactly an eager early adopter of anything.

I've never understood why some people feel they have to get new-fangled things, especially when it comes to technology. If that's what they like and that's what God wants them to have, great!

But I'm not even a tech person, and I can't be the only one to notice that with any new release, it always takes a few years to work out the bugs. Especially since it seems to be the status quo to just release what are in essence prototypes, using the "early adopters" as guinea pigs.

I know this is completely different, but a new theme park is opening in Florida in 2025 (Epic Universe.) I'm saving up to go in 2026, after it's been open for at least a year, because these parks always have glitches right out of the gate that take a while to get fixed.

 

[seoulsearch]

EV's are not about saving the planet. They are about controlling people and money.
Fun facts:
...the production of electric vehicles is more detrimental to the environment than gasoline powered vehicles. The mining for the metals necessary for the batteries results in a brand new electric vehicle having the same environmental impact as a gasoline powered vehicle with 80,000 miles driven before it is even sold.
...the electric grid runs predominantly off of coal and natural gas. So powering the batteries continues to require fossil fuels and impact the environment.
...there exists little infrastructure in the US to power electric vehicles. Billions of dollars were appropriated to build the infrastructure, but over the last three and a half years only 7 charging facilities have been built at a cost to the taxpayers of 7 billion dollars.
...due to government mandates, more taxpayer money is being given as incentives to purchase electric. This has a dual effect of increasing taxes as well as driving up the price of all vehicles to cover the car manufacturers' losses associated with the production of a largely unwanted product.
...the increase in prices on vehicles increases the amount of fixing wrecked vehicles, which in turn accelerates the price of automobile insurance coverage.
...as always, follow the money. Who really is aided by the change from gasoline powered to electric vehicles? Hint...it's not you.

I never understood how they convinced anyone to think these machines would be better for the environment.

I mean, I'm just a below-average consumer (as in, I don't keep up with all the politics,) and even I think I've figured out that these vehicles are going to make things worse.

 

[Cameron143]

I never understood how they convinced anyone to think these machines would be better for the environment.

I mean, I'm just a below-average consumer (as in, I don't keep up with all the politics,) and even I think I've figured out that these vehicles are going to make things worse.

That's one of the reasons Marxists and Communists like to control education. They brainwash students.
How do you think they get the university students to rally for Hamas? They lie and keep them largely ignorant.

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

Hey Everybody,

* Are you interested in getting an electric vehicle? Why or why not?

No!! The technology is still immature, and there's no support infrastructure.

* Do you have the setup (electric connection, etc.) to support owning an electric vehicle?

Potentially, but nothings installed at present. My normal automotive use would make an EV completely practical if I had any interest in them.

* Do you feel that electric vehicles will help the environment?

No!! they only relocate the source of pollution - assuming that's even a real problem instead of a tree hugger fantasy.

* Would you still get an electric vehicle even if it was more expensive (both in price and maintenance costs?)

No!!! since it would be asking for trouble, unless you're a "global warming" obsessive, with a genuine concern for the environment.

* Do you believe electric cars will vastly improve the environment?

No! They'll have no effect one way or another, and the "Environment" is only in trouble in the Media, and in Hollywood.

Electric car companies are a hot topic in some chats I'm in, so I was wondering how our Christian community feels about them as well.

Personally, I see it as a totally worthless media induced fantasy. Some folks will buy into the scam, and others won't.

There are three categories of consumers: Early Adopters, who'll go for anything that's new and shiny, The Mass market that hold off until the "new thing" has proven its practical value and has a support infrastructure, and the LUDDITES who only buy when there's no choice. Personally, I'm a Luddite.[/quote][/quote]

 

[seoulsearch]

There are three categories of consumers: Early Adopters, who'll go for anything that's new and shiny, The Mass market that hold off until the "new thing" has proven its practical value and has a support infrastructure, and the LUDDITES who only buy when there's no choice. Personally, I'm a Luddite.

I am definitely Team Luddite all the way!!

Thank you for your very insightful and informative post.

 

[Lynx]

Yeah... I kinda figured this thread would draw a lot truther ranting. I didn't want to say anything though, because it's like Bloody Mary - talking about it enough draws it to you.

 

[seoulsearch]

Yeah... I kinda figured this thread would draw a lot truther ranting. I didn't want to say anything though, because it's like Bloody Mary - talking about it enough draws it to you.

I find just about any perspective interesting, which is one of the reasons why I put up the thread...

I'm liking being able to reach more people for the discussions here in Miscellaneous.

Even if I don't know about, understand, or agree with something, I almost always at least learn something new.

And even better for me are when people tell their stories of how they came to those conclusions. My favorite is when people share the life experiences that got them to where they are today.

I'm enjoying reading the input and I'm always grateful that people take the time out of their busy lives to post answers to my frivolous little questions.

 

[tourist]

I’m not getting a new car. When my gasoline powered car is out of miles I’m going to take the Mercedes I inherited from my dad out of the garage. It has less than a thousand miles on its odometer. I think I can get by until gas is banned lol.

You should be OK for sure.

 

[Dino246]

As I live where winter temperatures can be below -30 for weeks on end, owning an electric vehicle is silly. I’ll join Team Luddite on this issue.

My brother lives in the mildest climate in the country and drives an electric car… though more for the performance and low operating cost than for the environment. His car will out-accelerate anything fueled by gasoline that is road-legal.

 

[Karlon]

electric vehicles are a super great idea! but wait, hold on, i didn't say they are practical. the issue is current e.v. are VERY far from practical use. way too many problems. it seems that it would take another 25 to 35 years to perfect them. 60 years ago, you could drive from N.Y. to Florida in 25 hours just stopping for gas. you can't do that today with an e.v.

 

[blueluna5]

Hey Everybody,

This thread was inspired by a picture someone posted in a financial Discord a few days ago:

One member commented, "Finally! A cyber truck I can afford!"

What do you all think of the push towards electric vehicles? I'm in a state that is in the process of outlawing the purchase of new gas vehicles -- apparently, you can buy used, but you won't be able to buy anything new unless it's electric. I have a nearly 11-year-old gas car that's still in good shape, and I plan on driving it 'til the wheels fall off.

But by the time I do need a different car, I joked with friends that I'm going to be like Mad Max, searching through the automotive graveyards for an "antique" gas car.

I have family members who have a Tesla and love it, but I'm not interested in one for myself. There was one day we drove around in circles until we found the shadiest spot in the very back of the parking lot -- because if the car got too hot, the battery would drain much faster.

I've also read about how tires have to be replaced more often (because the vehicles are heavier,) the batteries cost half the cost of a new car to replace, and when I saw those news reports of Tesla drivers being stranded for hours in the winter (some with young children) because the batteries wouldn't charge, I decided that I am going to put off having to get one for as long as I can.

How about all of you?

* Are you interested in getting an electric vehicle? Why or why not?

* Do you have the setup (electric connection, etc.) to support owning an electric vehicle?

* Do you feel that electric vehicles will help the environment?

* Would you still get an electric vehicle even if it was more expensive (both in price and maintenance costs?)

* Do you believe electric cars will vastly improve the environment?

Electric car companies are a hot topic in some chats I'm in, so I was wondering how our Christian community feels about them as well.

Looking forward to your answers!

It's actually the size of a toy car if you bought it on temu. 😆

 

[Nehemiah6]

What do you all think of the push towards electric vehicles?

It is TOTL MADNESSS. EVs have no advantages over gasoline powered vehicles, but they have too many disadvantages and are actually a real hazard.

It is simply amazing that auto manufacturers did not push back on the insanity, and inform governments with one voice that these are bombs waiting to explode at any time.

This is all about the Climate Change propaganda, which has no science behind it, and is causing a lot of problems. Again, it was up to the manufacturers -- as a group -- to thoroughly research this nonsense, and then let the governments know that there was no reality behind any of this.

I could go into actual reports about the disadvantages of EVs, but people can search them out for themselves. The problem is the sheep mentality.

 

[Lynx]

My brother lives in the mildest climate in the country and drives an electric car… though more for the performance and low operating cost than for the environment. His car will out-accelerate anything fueled by gasoline that is road-legal.

Yeah, that. They do have very good, very direct power transfer to the wheels.

 

[JaumeJ]

They are very quiet! Believe me, I have come very close to walking out in front of onehurrying by me. The same goes for those electric scooter, as I learned the name for them here in Spain. a patinete, or pah tee net tay.