The Way of Salvation and Eternal Life

[homwardbound]

Good questions

Q:
Thank you how do we get rid of our sins or don't we have to?

When we talk about sin and the Holy Spirit, Jesus gives us a very simple and hopeful path that anyone can understand. He never told us to ignore sin, but He also never told us to carry the weight of our mistakes alone. Instead, He invites us to come to Him honestly. Jesus said, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand,” showing that repentance is simply turning back toward God with a sincere heart. He also taught us to pray, “Forgive us our sins,” which means forgiveness is always open to us when we ask for it. As we follow Him, He welcomes us without rejection, for He said that those who come to Him He will never cast out. Peter taught the same truth when he said, “Repent, that your sins may be blotted out.” So yes, getting rid of sin means we bring it to God, confess it, turn from it, and let Jesus wash our hearts clean. This is not something we do only once; it is a gentle, daily walk of trust, honesty, and obedience. And God never turns away a sincere heart.

Q:How do we know we have the Holy Ghost or don't we have to get it?

When we ask about receiving the Holy Spirit, Jesus explained that the Spirit is essential for the life of a believer. He called Him the Helper and the Spirit of truth, and He promised that the Father would give Him to those who love Him and keep His words. So how do we know we have the Spirit? Jesus and the apostles described simple signs that begin quietly but grow over time. The Spirit gives us a new desire to follow God; He softens the heart and gives us a growing love for what is right. He also gives us new understanding of God’s word, fulfilling Jesus’ promise that the Spirit would teach us and guide us into all truth. Another sign is a new love for others, a deeper patience and gentleness that grows inside us. John explained that we know God abides in us by the Spirit He gives. The Spirit also gives strength to resist sin, not making us perfect in a single moment, but helping us overcome things we could never defeat alone. And He provides a quiet inner witness, a gentle awareness of God’s presence that is steady and real, not loud or forced.
All of this leads to a simple and comforting truth. If you seek forgiveness, Jesus will forgive you. If you ask for the Holy Spirit, Jesus will give Him to you. He promised that the Father will give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him. You do not need to be perfect first. You only need an honest heart that turns to God and says, “Lord, I want You.” And He will answer every time.

Peace be with you.

Thank you for sharing God never leaves or forsakes anyone, Wow, woe Isaiah 6:1-7. Col 1 :21-23

This new life given from Father in risen Son, takes place on day one anyone believes Father has raised Son from the dead for them to be new. This for me started Eph 1:13. Then I saw versus 6-7 Accepted, forgiven by Daddy, Father, in the risen Son, a gift, not of works of flesh, the done work of Son for new mellowing music to abide in me, being at peace, thankfully, me at least
I see one thing at a time God Father in risen Son takes one thing out of the way at a time. What? Never all at once, confusion coms form all at one time, I need I need this problem fixed and then the next one right with that other one. I have found out it does not work that way, too much confusion and one gets trapped in things. I have been there with worry over things.

I saw to take all my problems at the time going on, to God in trust. I saw from God lets take the most important one, and solve that one. first. Then we will work on the next one, Ready?
I went Yes
Oh, what a bumpy ride. I look back and see so many things that I did wrong, and God not ever condemn me, ever!!!!!!!!! Perplexed over others condemning me, and me not wanting to do those things that I did, I even started condemning others also.. Yet being condemned by people, not God, I became guilty and prideful, a person better than others (Luke 18:9-14), and went ahead and did those things anyways, that were not good. for my Soul or others Souls either. However God has continued to work with me and not ever condemn me ever. That is what changed and changes me, daily in learning new from mistakes I have made, God teaching me new in God's Spirit and Truth. God Father gives us the Holy Spirit to guide us and we the people still get to respond in belief and listen or not. /Free Choice remains, I choose God to lead not me anymore, still learning this daily.
Phil 3:12-15, best to read the entire Epistle to ge the entire context of love and mercy from God to us all, at least me

 

[NightTwister]

Then if faith doesn't cause works, works have to be a free choice of the will. If they are a free choice of the will then people can have faith and choose not to do them. If they can choose not to do them then they can be judged, as scripture points out, for not doing them which would make salvation impossible. Therefore faith alone is not sufficient for salvation.

Faith-following works are the choice of the will after spiritual life begins. It's still Sola Fide.

 

[Soyeong]

So I take this to mean that the only difference between a sinner who possesses the gift of salvation and a sinner who doesn't is that the first wants to obey God's laws and repents when he fails but the second doesn't. It also appears that the former always repents after sinning. This looks like "wanting to obey", not "obedience" itself, is the halmark of this view of salvation. Is that right?

Again, it is about direction. Is someone being conformed to the likeness of the Son or not? The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact likeness of His character (Hebrews 1:3), which he embodied through his works by setting a sinless example for us to follow of how to walk in obedience to God’s law. Sin is what is contrary to God’s character traits, such as with unrighteousness being sin, and sin is the transgression of God’s law because it was graciously given in order to teach us how to be a doer of God’s character traits, so the way that Jesus is giving us his gift of saving us from sin is by graciously teaching us to be a doer of God’s character traits in obedience to His law.

 

[Nedsk]

Thank you for sharing God never leaves or forsakes anyone, Wow, woe Isaiah 6:1-7. Col 1 :21-23

This new life given from Father in risen Son, takes place on day one anyone believes Father has raised Son from the dead for them to be new. This for me started Eph 1:13. Then I saw versus 6-7 Accepted, forgiven by Daddy, Father, in the risen Son, a gift, not of works of flesh, the done work of Son for new mellowing music to abide in me, being at peace, thankfully, me at least
I see one thing at a time God Father in risen Son takes one thing out of the way at a time. What? Never all at once, confusion coms form all at one time, I need I need this problem fixed and then the next one right with that other one. I have found out it does not work that way, too much confusion and one gets trapped in things. I have been there with worry over things.

I saw to take all my problems at the time going on, to God in trust. I saw from God lets take the most important one, and solve that one. first. Then we will work on the next one, Ready?
I went Yes
Oh, what a bumpy ride. I look back and see so many things that I did wrong, and God not ever condemn me, ever!!!!!!!!! Perplexed over others condemning me, and me not wanting to do those things that I did, I even started condemning others also.. Yet being condemned by people, not God, I became guilty and prideful, a person better than others (Luke 18:9-14), and went ahead and did those things anyways, that were not good. for my Soul or others Souls either. However God has continued to work with me and not ever condemn me ever. That is what changed and changes me, daily in learning new from mistakes I have made, God teaching me new in God's Spirit and Truth. God Father gives us the Holy Spirit to guide us and we the people still get to respond in belief and listen or not. /Free Choice remains, I choose God to lead not me anymore, still learning this daily.
Phil 3:12-15, best to read the entire Epistle to ge the entire context of love and mercy from God to us all, at least me

God never foresakes anyone we turn away by the free exercise of our will.

 

[Nedsk]

Faith-following works are the choice of the will after spiritual life begins. It's still Sola Fide.

Yes a choice and if you choose not to follow faith with works by definition faith alone can't be sufficient for salvation. You do know what sufficient means, correct?

 

[NightTwister]

Yes a choice and if you choose not to follow faith with works by definition faith alone can't be sufficient for salvation. You do know what sufficient means, correct?

A choice based on the person's nature. Not a "free" choice as you say. Works will always follow a living faith and never a dead faith which is no faith at all. Sola Fide.

 

[Nedsk]

A choice based on the person's nature. Not a "free" choice as you say. Works will always follow a living faith and never a dead faith which is no faith at all. Sola Fide.

So a person's nature decides their choices? If that's true then faith wouldn't make a difference. If it's a person's nature to steal then faith won't change that since it's not a "free" choice as you say. Unless you want to claim faith causes works. Now you're suggesting now that works ALWAYS follow faith which again undercuts sola fide. If faith alone was sufficient works wouldn't need to follow as faith would be sufficient. That would be sola fide. Faith ALONE.

 

[NightTwister]

So a person's nature decides their choices? If that's true then faith wouldn't make a difference. If it's a person's nature to steal then faith won't change that since it's not a "free" choice as you say. Unless you want to claim faith causes works. Now you're suggesting now that works ALWAYS follow faith which again undercuts sola fide. If faith alone was sufficient works wouldn't need to follow as faith would be sufficient. That would be sola fide. Faith ALONE.

Faith is a gift from God. God would not give bad gifts to His children. The faith He gives produces works. Sola Fide.

 

[homwardbound]

God never foresakes anyone we turn away by the free exercise of our will.

Unfortunately so. Yet God has continued in love and mercy from day one, wanting no-one to perish. I love God all the more deeply in this mercy for us all to choose or not, consciously. Thank you for the truth you posted. Thanking God for taking so long
God loves us all y'all a fact that will not get changed ever, waiting for the next person to turn over their life willingly to God too, Wow Isaiah 6:1-7

 

[Nedsk]

Faith is a gift from God. God would not give bad gifts to His children. The faith He gives produces works. Sola Fide.

Faith is a gift from God. The faith isn't bad and no one suggested otherwise. So you're saying faith "produces" works so again faith ALONE is not sufficient. If faith alone was sufficient not wouldn't need to produce works but Scripture is clear works are necessary for salvation. Matt 25: 31-46

 

[NightTwister]

Faith is a gift from God. The faith isn't bad and no one suggested otherwise. So you're saying faith "produces" works so again faith ALONE is not sufficient. If faith alone was sufficient not wouldn't need to produce works but Scripture is clear works are necessary for salvation. Matt 25: 31-46

Good works are the result of a living faith. A living faith always produces good works. Faith and works are not two things, they are one.

 

[Nedsk]

Unfortunately so. Yet God has continued in love and mercy from day one, wanting no-one to perish. I love God all the more deeply in this mercy for us all to choose or not, consciously. Thank you for the truth you posted. Thanking God for taking so long
God loves us all y'all a fact that will not get changed ever, waiting for the next person to turn over their life willingly to God too, Wow Isaiah 6:1-7

God wanting no one to perish is different then no one perishes. God will not force his will on us. That's not love.

 

[Nedsk]

Good works are the result of a living faith. A living faith always produces good works. Faith and works are not two things, they are one.

Then you're saying faith causes works. If thats true then the works that follow are not freely chosen. Tomatoes are not tomato plants and tomato plants can't grow green beans. If the works arent freely chosen then its not out of love that we do the works and how can we be judged out behavior as in Matt 25: 31-46

 

[homwardbound]

Faith is a gift from God. The faith isn't bad and no one suggested otherwise. So you're saying faith "produces" works so again faith ALONE is not sufficient. If faith alone was sufficient not wouldn't need to produce works but Scripture is clear works are necessary for salvation. Matt 25: 31-46

No, self works will never please Father ever
Son took all that away Romans 8:1-3 for us and he did no work of his own.
We the new do, do work. it is not of the self, it is of God's done work of Son for us all first, at least me and is for all to believe also.
We love because God first loved us
There is no fear in God's love, there is fear in Human love of flesh and blood first born nature
No one throughout the first Testament (Old) could ever be perfect, The ones called by God where by God who reckoned each perfect as if never sinned like in Col 1:21-22
Yes they each did work(s) works of belief, taking no credit to self in doing them
The same is true in the New Testament
I do nothing or say nothing unless Father tells me to say it or do it, get it
Luke 21:14-15 Learn, discern trust from mistakes made to hear truth and be new in love and mercy to all too, thank you Father and Son as Won, (One)

 

[Jordon]

God wanting no one to perish is different then no one perishes. God will not force his will on us. That's not love.

Your nature is not the same as God,

Your nature is vulnerable and needs loving

Gods nature makes a person believe by changing his heart

This is not forceful it's called devine intervention.


You don't understand his way by comparing his nature to yours because any will you have lives in the flesh

 

[Nedsk]

No, self works will never please Father ever
Son took all that away Romans 8:1-3 for us and he did no work of his own.
We the new do, do work. it is not of the self, it is of God's done work of Son for us all first, at least me and is for all to believe also.
We love because God first loved us
There is no fear in God's love, there is fear in Human love of flesh and blood first born nature
No one throughout the first Testament (Old) could ever be perfect, The ones called by God where by God who reckoned each perfect as if never sinned like in Col 1:21-22
Yes they each did work(s) works of belief, taking no credit to self in doing them
The same is true in the New Testament
I do nothing or say nothing unless Father tells me to say it or do it, get it
Luke 21:14-15 Learn, discern trust from mistakes made to hear truth and be new in love and mercy to all too, thank you Father and Son as Won, (One)

You will be judged by your actions or inactions Matt 25:31-46

 

[homwardbound]

God wanting no one to perish is different then no one perishes. God will not force his will on us. That's not love.

I Never, said God would ever force God's will on anyone. That be why it is taking so long, God is love to us all period and God from day one who had Mercy on Adam and Eve did not kill them did he?
Psalms 82, the people do the killing, God does not want this, yet having free will caused this and to not have free will, God then could not claim to love us all could God?
Thank you God for me or anyone to not ever be a puppet

 

[Nedsk]

Your nature is not the same as God,

Your nature is vulnerable and needs loving

Gods nature makes a person believe by changing his heart

This is not forceful it's called devine intervention.


You don't understand his way by comparing his nature to yours because any will you have lives in the flesh

But the power to actually change our lives rest with us. God will not force his will on us. That would be like your spouse being forced to marry you. No one would call that love.

 

[NightTwister]

Then you're saying faith causes works. If thats true then the works that follow are not freely chosen. Tomatoes are not tomato plants and tomato plants can't grow green beans. If the works arent freely chosen then its not out of love that we do the works and how can we be judged out behavior as in Matt 25: 31-46

I did not say faith causes works. You keep saying that.

 

[Nedsk]

I Never, said God would ever force God's will on anyone. That be why it is taking so long, God is love to us all period and God from day one who had Mercy on Adam and Eve did not kill them did he?
Psalms 82, the people do the killing, God does not want this, yet having free will caused this and to not have free will, God then could not claim to love us all could God?
Thank you God for me or anyone to not ever be a puppet

No but adam and eve were expelled from Paradise weren't they?