SALVATION ONLY POSSIBLE WITHOUT WORKS!
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Again Cassius you should put your glasses on and read what I write in my posts as I have clearly on numerous occasions made reference to the bolded above in other posts on this site as well as it being deduced from what I have written and believe...let me reiterate...
JESUS has done the WORKS
THEY ARE COMPLETE
JESUS and HIS FAITH SAVES US
THE LAW HAS BEEN NAILED TO THE CROSS AND THE CONDEMNATION IS NO LONGER LEVELED AT THOSE WHO ARE IN CHRIST BY BIBLICAL FAITH!
JESUS has done the WORKS
THEY ARE COMPLETE
JESUS and HIS FAITH SAVES US
THE LAW HAS BEEN NAILED TO THE CROSS AND THE CONDEMNATION IS NO LONGER LEVELED AT THOSE WHO ARE IN CHRIST BY BIBLICAL FAITH!
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You have it correct until you get to the last statement. Christ's Work, salvation from death and sin, is a Gift given to the world, every single human being. Until you understand that, you will not understand the difference between what Christ did and man's response to that Gift.
Here is just a small portion of explanation on that Gift. Rom 5:12states it is death, the primary problem man has, namely the fall of Adam and the condemnation of death.
In Rom 5:15 Paul states that it is a free Gift. Vs 18 tells you the Gift was life, given to all men. That is only part of it.
No doubt and I will add...any biblical work that is ever produced by a true believer has been done by Jesus through them as apart from Christ we can do nothing. It is Jesus that does the works and not us...therefore OUR WORKS and OUR ABILITIES cannot supplement our salvation, help us get saved or help us keep our salvation!
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Yeah I know...I just called him on his deceptive statement and posted the title of his Post...Salvation Not Possible without Works.....Your right...The truth will find you out and it will be evident who is of the truth and who is not....men who point to self for salvation say all that needs to be said for sure....
It is usually stated from man's perspective, which is the statements you have been promulgating very consistantly, namely,
All one needs is to believe, belief only. Well, Satan believes as well. He knows without a doubt that Christ defeated him and his the power of death by which he controlled the world. So, this is why James states in 2:19. And you keep insistanting that this is the faith that saves. So, to say it in the negative or vice versa is just as true.
All one needs is to believe, belief only. Well, Satan believes as well. He knows without a doubt that Christ defeated him and his the power of death by which he controlled the world. So, this is why James states in 2:19. And you keep insistanting that this is the faith that saves. So, to say it in the negative or vice versa is just as true.
You are so far out of understanding scripture. Rom 8:1 is not even addressing the Gift of salvation. I cited and explained the Gift of salvation, given to all men in Rom 5:12-18, Here is another place, I Cor 15:12-22. Here is a text that Christ did in fact give life to all men since all men will be resurrected in the last day, I Cor 15:53, Acts 14:15, Rev 20:13.
Once again, you are actually bypassing the actual Work of Christ, that He accomplished for the world, through His Incarnation. Heb 2:14-17, Heb 2:9, II Tim 1:10, II Cor 5:18-19, Rom 3:23-25, Col 1:20, Rom 5:6-10. There is not a mention of this work done ONLY for believers. Your concept of salvation is impossible per scripture when correctly understood. John 4:42, I John 4:14.
Your teaching that God will actually have a relationship with a dead man. He may have a biological existence in this world, but your theology excludes the possibility of eternal existence. It even denies hell. If Christ cannot raise the dead then your faith is in vain, I Cor 15:17, but also hell would not exist. The end of man would be Gen 3:19, dust to dust.
You need to completely dump whatever theology you have, which sounds very much like Calvinism since there is not a shred of evidence in scripture of Calvinism.
Once again, you are actually bypassing the actual Work of Christ, that He accomplished for the world, through His Incarnation. Heb 2:14-17, Heb 2:9, II Tim 1:10, II Cor 5:18-19, Rom 3:23-25, Col 1:20, Rom 5:6-10. There is not a mention of this work done ONLY for believers. Your concept of salvation is impossible per scripture when correctly understood. John 4:42, I John 4:14.
Your teaching that God will actually have a relationship with a dead man. He may have a biological existence in this world, but your theology excludes the possibility of eternal existence. It even denies hell. If Christ cannot raise the dead then your faith is in vain, I Cor 15:17, but also hell would not exist. The end of man would be Gen 3:19, dust to dust.
You need to completely dump whatever theology you have, which sounds very much like Calvinism since there is not a shred of evidence in scripture of Calvinism.
For those that you think are working for their salvation, what work do you think one would need to do to assist Christ in making a sacrifice for sin? What work would a person need to do, in order to help Christ with His resurrection?
In Scripture this is the work of Christ, this is the Gift of salvation. A Gift given to all men.
Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
There's only one way to the Father which is in heaven, and that is through Jesus. And, there is only one way to Jesus, and that is through the God kind of faith. There is only one kind of faith that will work. And in order for one to have faith, they have to believe, and for them to believe, they have to hear the truth of the gospel first. And there is only one spirit that can reveal the truth of the gospel.
It's not open to wishy-washy thinking. If one is not born of the Spirit, then the Spirit of God isn't going to be the one doing the interpreting, but the spirit of error.
Parables are meant to have more than one meaning and tell more than one story, like an allegory or metaphor.
This is not a guess. Love is not a feeling, nor an instruction, or a dollar bill, (where did that one come from?), love is a spirit, and that spirit is of and from God.
Don't know if I understood your post correctly, so forgive me if I was on the wrong track, so to speak.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
There's only one way to the Father which is in heaven, and that is through Jesus. And, there is only one way to Jesus, and that is through the God kind of faith. There is only one kind of faith that will work. And in order for one to have faith, they have to believe, and for them to believe, they have to hear the truth of the gospel first. And there is only one spirit that can reveal the truth of the gospel.
It's not open to wishy-washy thinking. If one is not born of the Spirit, then the Spirit of God isn't going to be the one doing the interpreting, but the spirit of error.
Parables are meant to have more than one meaning and tell more than one story, like an allegory or metaphor.
This is not a guess. Love is not a feeling, nor an instruction, or a dollar bill, (where did that one come from?), love is a spirit, and that spirit is of and from God.
Don't know if I understood your post correctly, so forgive me if I was on the wrong track, so to speak.
Scripturally, historically it has never been condemned as the Gospel. It has been proclaimed by Christians for 2000 years. A Gospel that has not changed. It has been preserved by the Holy Spirit and man has not been able to change it.
That you condemn it because it does not fit your personal interpretation does not change either the Gospel of Christ nor history. It just means you still have a long way to go in understanding scripture and what it means.
That you condemn it because it does not fit your personal interpretation does not change either the Gospel of Christ nor history. It just means you still have a long way to go in understanding scripture and what it means.