Amillennialism

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AnandaHya

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Oh ok. I see. The promise to Issac Jacob and all the other people were not for them. it was for Christ. Christ was given the land of Canaan. WHats he gonna do with it?

Again. WHy were they given the land LONG before Christ even came? You like playing these games.
its called foreshadowing of things to come.

example:

animal sacrifice to replace the almost sacrifice of Isaac = Jesus the Son of God to replace OUR sins

canaan/promise land = God's rest/ heaven
 
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Aww is the poor guy afraid to show the world he does not know what EG believes?

He makes claims EG is a false teacher but he can't back up his words. Thats what I thought!
You believe in dispology.

You believe people who call themselves 'jews' have a special place in Gods plans.

You believe Jesus is not fully King in His completed and ONLY Kingdom.

You believe satan is not bound.

You believe there will be an earthly literal thousand year kingdom ruled by 'jesus' from Jerusalem. Based on fulfilled OT prophecy like Daniel and Zech 14.

You believe your decisions somehow convince God to predestinate you to salvation.

You believe in santa clause. :rolleyes:

These things are all FALSE and I've already backed up all this by hammering you in every debate we've had. Thats why I'm always the last guy to post in our debates.
 
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Laodicea

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You believe in dispology.

You believe people who call themselves 'jews' have a special place in Gods plans.

You believe Jesus is not fully King in His completed and ONLY Kingdom.

You believe satan is not bound.

You believe there will be an earthly literal thousand year kingdom ruled by 'jesus' from Jerusalem. Based on fulfilled OT prophecy like Daniel and Zech 14.

You believe your decisions somehow convince God to predestinate you to salvation.

You believe in santa clause. :rolleyes:

These things are all FALSE and I've already backed up all this by hammering you in every debate we've had. Thats why I'm always the last guy to post in our debates.
Have you used the Bible or your own words?
 
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You believe in dispology.
The different dispensations in the bible must be understood.

You believe people who call themselves 'jews' have a special place in Gods plans.
God is not finished dealing with Israel.

You believe Jesus is not fully King in His completed and ONLY Kingdom.
This is correct

You believe satan is not bound.
Also correct

You believe there will be an earthly literal thousand year kingdom ruled by 'jesus' from Jerusalem. Based on fulfilled OT prophecy like Daniel and Zech 14.
Also correct.

You believe your decisions somehow convince God to predestinate you to salvation.
God gave us free will

These things are all FALSE and I've already backed up all this by hammering you in every debate we've had. Thats why I'm always the last guy to post in our debates.
EG is pretty much right. You are wrong. You hammer away at truth. It doesn't make it not truth.
 
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The different dispensations in the bible must be understood.


God is not finished dealing with Israel.


This is correct


Also correct


Also correct.


God gave us free will


EG is pretty much right. You are wrong. You hammer away at truth. It doesn't make it not truth.
You dont prove anything with:

correct
correct
correct

You prove it by engaging in rational debates and addressing each others posts in a logical manner.

you still have outstanding posts to answer on at least one of the above doctrines.
 
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AnandaHya

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foreshadowing:

"feast of the Tabernacle" or Sukkot

John 7: 1-52

"On this feast see Lev. 23:33-44 and Numbers 29. It was celebrated from the fifteenth to the twenty-first or twenty-second day of the seventh month, which approximates our October. It was a feast of thanksgiving for the vintage. But besides being a harvest-festival it was also a joyful commemoration of the divine guidance granted to the Atonement, the idea of joy after redemption was naturally very prominent. In a decreased daily scale a special sacrifice of seventy bullocks was made. The temple-trumpets were blown on each day. There was the ceremony of the outpouring of water, drawn from Siloam, in commemoration of the refreshing stream which had come forth miraculously out of the rock at Meribah (Ex. 17:1-7), and in anticipation of blessings both for Israel and for the world. There was the illumination of the inner court of the temple, where the light of the grand candelabra reminded one of the pillar of fire by night which had served as a guide through the desert (Num. 14:14). There was a torch-parade. And above all, everywhere in and around Jerusalem, in the street, the square, and even on the roofs of the houses booths were erected. These leafy dwellings provided shelter for the pilgrims who came from every direction to attend this feast. But most of all they too were reminders of the wilderness-life of the ancestors (Lev. 23:43).55"

Jesus in Jerusalem at the Feast of Tabernacles (John 7:1-52) | Bible.org - Worlds Largest Bible Study Site

Foreshadow OT......................Fulfillment NT in Jesus
Water from Stone in the desert = Living water from the Rock of Salvation (Jesus)

Salvation from wilderness and bondage in Egypt == salvation from world and bondage of sin
 
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AnandaHya

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which OT prophecies do you think are NOT fulfilled through the life, death and resurrection of Jesus that has not been written in Revelations?

I believe all the OT prophecies have been fulfilled or alluded to in Revelations telling us that they WILL be fulfilled in the future.....

most of my post are with Bible quotes but I guess they are being ignored by all....
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You believe in dispology.

There are many views on this.. which one do I hold.

You believe people who call themselves 'jews' have a special place in Gods plans.

wrong

You believe Jesus is not fully King in His completed and ONLY Kingdom.

You believe satan is not bound.

You believe there will be an earthly literal thousand year kingdom ruled by 'jesus' from Jerusalem. Based on fulfilled OT prophecy like Daniel and Zech 14.

need more than this

You believe your decisions somehow convince God to predestinate you to salvation.

need more than this, General comments do not prove Anything

You believe in santa clause. :rolleyes:

These things are all FALSE and I've already backed up all this by hammering you in every debate we've had. Thats why I'm always the last guy to post in our debates.

Come on Dude. You think this shows what I believe. This does not prove anything. are ya scared??

General things are not going to help you. thats why you keep saying things I do not believe.

Lets see it!
 
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Crossfire

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which OT prophecies do you think are NOT fulfilled through the life, death and resurrection of Jesus that has not been written in Revelations?

I believe all the OT prophecies have been fulfilled or alluded to in Revelations telling us that they WILL be fulfilled in the future.....

most of my post are with Bible quotes but I guess they are being ignored by all....
The prophecies of Gog and Magog predicted by Ezekiel (chapt. 38 and 39) are Old Testament prophecies that have yet to be fulfilled. The Apostle John goes on to say in Revelation (chapt. 20) that this prophecy will not be fulfilled until the end of the millenium.

Gog and Magog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

While some believe and teach that the prophecies mentioned refer to two separate instances, I don't recall an instance in Israel's past where the territories historically known as Gog and Magog have ever invaded Israel. Some would say that Ezekiel's prophecy refers to the Babylonian invasion but this could not be seeing as this invasion had already occurred and the nation of Israel had been in exile before Ezekiel began to prophecy.
 
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The different dispensations in the bible must be understood.


God is not finished dealing with Israel.


This is correct


Also correct


Also correct.


God gave us free will


EG is pretty much right. You are wrong. You hammer away at truth. It doesn't make it not truth.
I know that you have a good grasp of the truth, as goes EG, in the grace of God and you desire that others would have the same understanding concerning our Lord and His relationship to the church that He has redeemed with His blood. However, we will never convince those that oppose the nature of that relationship that Christ has with His church and the calling that is upon it. They are independent and full of their own understanding and only the meek will God teach. They are also troublemakers and desire to subvert others away from the scriptures unto their own understanding and have no honor for what has been laid out in the scriptures. They have been twisted away from the truth and have magnified their own understanding against Christ and the church. To glorify Christ would be to put these men away by having nothing to do with them and hope that God would have His way with them. That would be a form of grace that they do not understand and still rebel against, revealing that their heart is not established in grace and the words of God's righteousness. If God leads you otherwise, so be it.
 
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You believe in dispology.

There are many views on this.. which one do I hold.

You believe people who call themselves 'jews' have a special place in Gods plans.

wrong

You believe Jesus is not fully King in His completed and ONLY Kingdom.

You believe satan is not bound.

You believe there will be an earthly literal thousand year kingdom ruled by 'jesus' from Jerusalem. Based on fulfilled OT prophecy like Daniel and Zech 14.

need more than this

You believe your decisions somehow convince God to predestinate you to salvation.

need more than this, General comments do not prove Anything

You believe in santa clause. :rolleyes:

These things are all FALSE and I've already backed up all this by hammering you in every debate we've had. Thats why I'm always the last guy to post in our debates.

Come on Dude. You think this shows what I believe. This does not prove anything. are ya scared??

General things are not going to help you. thats why you keep saying things I do not believe.

Lets see it!
I've shown it all over the forums.

It's your turn to post on every single debate. From Amil...to predestination....to mother of Harlots...EVERYTHING.

Lets see your REBUTTALS.

And can you stop pulling a Scotty and making a hash of the quote feature?
 
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The prophecies of Gog and Magog predicted by Ezekiel (chapt. 38 and 39) are Old Testament prophecies that have yet to be fulfilled. The Apostle John goes on to say in Revelation (chapt. 20) that this prophecy will not be fulfilled until the end of the millenium.

Gog and Magog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

While some believe and teach that the prophecies mentioned refer to two separate instances, I don't recall an instance in Israel's past where the territories historically known as Gog and Magog have ever invaded Israel. Some would say that Ezekiel's prophecy refers to the Babylonian invasion but this could not be seeing as this invasion had already occurred and the nation of Israel had been in exile before Ezekiel began to prophecy.
What makes you think Gog and Magog are territories?
 
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I know that you have a good grasp of the truth, as goes EG, in the grace of God and you desire that others would have the same understanding concerning our Lord and His relationship to the church that He has redeemed with His blood. However, we will never convince those that oppose the nature of that relationship that Christ has with His church and the calling that is upon it. They are independent and full of their own understanding and only the meek will God teach. They are also troublemakers and desire to subvert others away from the scriptures unto their own understanding and have no honor for what has been laid out in the scriptures. They have been twisted away from the truth and have magnified their own understanding against Christ and the church. To glorify Christ would be to put these men away by having nothing to do with them and hope that God would have His way with them. That would be a form of grace that they do not understand and still rebel against, revealing that their heart is not established in grace and the words of God's righteousness. If God leads you otherwise, so be it.
Oh now its 'put these men away' ya?

Before you were all...'TURN THEM OVER' for re-education.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I've shown it all over the forums.

It's your turn to post on every single debate. From Amil...to predestination....to mother of Harlots...EVERYTHING.

Lets see your REBUTTALS.

And can you stop pulling a Scotty and making a hash of the quote feature?
OK Thanks. Your afraid because you know you have no clue what I believe. You prove it by posting I believe stuff is not true (ALL THE TIME)

If your afraid to show the world your wrong in what you think I believe. I think your true self shows. For all the world (at least all those who come in here) To see.

Enough said!

Failure to put your money where your mouth is proves you have alterior motives.
 
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Questions for dispy's:

Matthew 25:31, 46; Revelation 20:11-15: Jesus said, "But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious [Great White] throne. ALL THE NATIONS will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; and He will put THE SHEEP on His right, and THE GOATS on the left...[Then after the Judgment, the unrighteous] will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life." Who will be present at the Great White Throne Judgment?
John 5:28-29: "For AN HOUR [singular] is coming, in which ALL who are in the tombs will hear His voice, and will come forth; THOSE WHO DID THE GOOD DEEDS [the saints] to a resurrection of life, THOSE WHO COMMITTED EVIL DEEDS [the unsaved] to a resurrection of judgment." Who will be resurrected at the same hour?
John 6:39-40: Jesus said, "This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up ON THE LAST DAY. For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up ON THE LAST DAY." When will the believers be raised up?
John 6:44: Jesus said, "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up ON THE LAST DAY." When will the saved be raised up?
John 11:24: "Martha said to Him [Jesus], I know that he [Lazarus] will rise again in the resurrection ON THE LAST DAY." When will the resurrection of the saints be?
John 12:48: Jesus said, "He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him AT THE LAST DAY." When will the Judgment of the unsaved be?
Acts 24:15: "There shall certainly be A RESURRECTION [singular] OF BOTH the righteous and the wicked [together]." When will the resurrection of the righteous and the wicked be?
1 Thessalonians 4:15-17: Paul said, "For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that WE WHO ARE ALIVE and remain until the coming of the Lord, WILL NOT PRECEDE THOSE WHO HAVE FALLEN ASLEEP. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and WITH THE [last] TRUMPET of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord." What instrument will be sounded when the rapture and the resurrection of the saints occurs?
2 Thessalonians 2:1-3: Paul said, "...With regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him [the rapture]...Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come UNLESS THE APOSTASY COMES FIRST, AND THE MAN OF LAWLESSNESS [Antichrist] IS REVEALED, the son of destruction." What must come before the rapture? Will Christ return at any moment before these events?
1 Corinthians 15:51-52: Paul said, "Behold, I tell you a mystery; we [Christians] WILL NOT ALL SLEEP, but we will all be changed [at the rapture], in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, AT THE LAST TRUMPET; for the trumpet will sound, and THE DEAD WILL BE RAISED incorruptible, and we will ALL be changed." When will the saints, alive and dead, be changed in the twinkling of an eye?
Revelation 10:7: "In the days when the SEVENTH ANGEL IS ABOUT TO SOUND HIS TRUMPET [the seventh and last], the mystery of God [mentioned by Paul in 1 Cor. 15:51] will be accomplished" On which day will the last trumpet sound and the rapture and resurrection occur?
Revelation 11:15-18: "THE SEVENTH ANGEL SOUNDED HIS TRUMPET [the last one]...The nations were angry; and your [God’s] wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your saints...and for destroying those who destroy the earth." At which trumpet sound and on which day will the Judgment of God and the rewarding of the saints be?

 
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OK Thanks. Your afraid because you know you have no clue what I believe. You prove it by posting I believe stuff is not true (ALL THE TIME)

If your afraid to show the world your wrong in what you think I believe. I think your true self shows. For all the world (at least all those who come in here) To see.

Enough said!

Failure to put your money where your mouth is proves you have alterior motives.
Still waiting for you to reply in ALL of our debates.

Start with post #183 in this thread.