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It seems we have a new writer for the bible everyone. Oh wait I forgot we can't add to or take away from my word my bad. Sorry Johnlove you new "doctrine" has no place here or in the bible. Furthermore point out more scripture proving your point. It seems you only know the 3 verses. The bible has thousands. Have you seen where nicademos talked with Jesus? Jesus told him he had to be born again in order to inherit the kingdom of heaven. Paul and all the other apostles told the good news of how Jesus made the payment for sin by being sacrificed and rose again on the third day. Jesus was the perfect spotless lamb.
Did you know how they atoned for sins in the old testament? They sacrificed animals in order to be covecovered and forgiven for sins. Jesus became the new sacrifice so that they didn't have to sacrifice animqls anymore. So when you accept Jesus for who He is and what He did you are saved. You know when Jesus was on the cross a thief spoke with Jesus the thief believed Jesus was the Son of God. Jesus said that I assure you that you will be in paradise with me today for your belief.
Now correct me if I'm wrong but Jesus was not dead at the time He promised the thief paradise. Jesus had not been raised from the dead yet. So the thief could not have accepted Jesus's sacrifice fully because it had not taken place. The thief was not baptized either and we have no mention of the thief receiving the Holy Spirit. So by your admissions you are essentially calling Jesus a liar are you not. Is lying not a sin? So if Jesus lied which He didn't by the way, but by your words you are calling Jesus a liar which would make Him a sinner. So the sacrifice would have meant nothing. So you see your theology is full of holes. You are spreading false doctrine. God used me to prove this to you. If you still fail to give up and admit you were wrong we will be forced to report you. I recommend that you be banned for spreading false teaching.
Did you know how they atoned for sins in the old testament? They sacrificed animals in order to be covecovered and forgiven for sins. Jesus became the new sacrifice so that they didn't have to sacrifice animqls anymore. So when you accept Jesus for who He is and what He did you are saved. You know when Jesus was on the cross a thief spoke with Jesus the thief believed Jesus was the Son of God. Jesus said that I assure you that you will be in paradise with me today for your belief.
Now correct me if I'm wrong but Jesus was not dead at the time He promised the thief paradise. Jesus had not been raised from the dead yet. So the thief could not have accepted Jesus's sacrifice fully because it had not taken place. The thief was not baptized either and we have no mention of the thief receiving the Holy Spirit. So by your admissions you are essentially calling Jesus a liar are you not. Is lying not a sin? So if Jesus lied which He didn't by the way, but by your words you are calling Jesus a liar which would make Him a sinner. So the sacrifice would have meant nothing. So you see your theology is full of holes. You are spreading false doctrine. God used me to prove this to you. If you still fail to give up and admit you were wrong we will be forced to report you. I recommend that you be banned for spreading false teaching.
If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn’t do it, it is sin for them.
James 4:17
This is your benchmark for sin. Firstly it is just one benchmark. It relates to do positive
good things, or things of God. James is arguing you should do thing according to Gods will,
and not presume you are doing Gods will, but commit it to the Lord.
He is implying by not doing this you are sinning. Now it appears you want to say we are failing
to do good. What are you referring to?
And yes I do accept what scripture says about sin. Now you are saying I am denying what sin
is but your accusation is empty. And ofcourse sin is falling short of a standard. The question
is which standard and how is it defined. I get the impression you are trying to say any standard
you fail at you are a sinner. So if my eyesight is bad, I am a sinner, if I cannot sleep less than 4
hours I am a sinner. Until you talk not in meaningless generalities you words have no foundation.
It is just slander and not a real point. So if you wish to say I am sinning, please tell me about
what.
My point is simple, we are called to walk righteously and in purity. It appears you reject this.
By implication you are happy to walk in sin and being defiled. End of story. I am not.
James 4:17
This is your benchmark for sin. Firstly it is just one benchmark. It relates to do positive
good things, or things of God. James is arguing you should do thing according to Gods will,
and not presume you are doing Gods will, but commit it to the Lord.
He is implying by not doing this you are sinning. Now it appears you want to say we are failing
to do good. What are you referring to?
And yes I do accept what scripture says about sin. Now you are saying I am denying what sin
is but your accusation is empty. And ofcourse sin is falling short of a standard. The question
is which standard and how is it defined. I get the impression you are trying to say any standard
you fail at you are a sinner. So if my eyesight is bad, I am a sinner, if I cannot sleep less than 4
hours I am a sinner. Until you talk not in meaningless generalities you words have no foundation.
It is just slander and not a real point. So if you wish to say I am sinning, please tell me about
what.
My point is simple, we are called to walk righteously and in purity. It appears you reject this.
By implication you are happy to walk in sin and being defiled. End of story. I am not.
lol again I have not found any words to discount the Word of God just your understanding and your point about "sinners' being demons. I do not agree with you and doing so is not against the word of God. The Proof as you say are in the context of the verses I used. They show very clearly a " sinner" is a person(s) and no where in the Bible have I seen where it states "demons" are people. Nor have you provided any to refute that statement
The devil is not a demon nor was he a sinner from the beginning God did not create him as such. The Devil took on willful disobedience and was casted out from the Presence of God. The verse you have used is showing contrast from those who are not saved and those who are saved. are you a demon or were you a demon ? please answer me that ?
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Notice how johnlove hides and doesn't try to refute what I pointed out. God brought to my mind various ways to disprove everything johnlove is trying to stand on. It's as I have pointed out time and again through revelation from God. I didn't get this knowledge. God gave it to me. Why would He do this according to you Johnlove because I still sin God would treat me differently would He not? Plus if your claims are right why would God point me to various ways to refute your claims. God is not a God of confusion. God also keeps His promises. By your own admission johnlove you are essentially calling God a liar too and a promise breaker. Remember the couple in the book of Acts that sold their property and claimed they handed the church all the money you know what happened to them? They were struck dead on the spot. They lied and paid for that lie. So here's the deal God doesn't lie He doesn't break promises and you claiming your theology basically calls God and Jesus liars. They are not so stop fighting a warring with us you will not win.
How wrong you are. Sin is any wrong doing. And the Holy Spirit will make sure a servant of God knows just what a wrongdoing is. A deliberate wrongdoing committed by a person who has been given the knowledge is never forgiven, and such a person will be punished severely.
One who sins is of the devil, and the devil is a demon. Demon (an evil spirit; devil or fiend.)
A sinner can’t be a friend of God and the devil also. A Sinner is evil.
A sinner is rebelling against God.
Jesus came to make it possible for his Children to be perfect. Jesus did not fail.
(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who is a child of God sins because God's seed remains in him. Nor can he sin, because he is a child of God. This is what distinguishes the children of God from the children of the devil: whoever does not live uprightly and does not love his brother is not from God” New Jerusalem bible
(1 John 2:5 -6) “Whoever says, 'I know him' without keeping his commandments, is a liar, and truth has no place in him. But anyone who does keep his word, in such a one God's love truly reaches its perfection. This is the proof that we are in God. Whoever claims to remain in him must act as he acted.”
To prove me wrong you can’t just say I only know the above scripture, but you need to prove that scripture is wrong.
One who sins is of the devil, and the devil is a demon. Demon (an evil spirit; devil or fiend.)
A sinner can’t be a friend of God and the devil also. A Sinner is evil.
A sinner is rebelling against God.
Jesus came to make it possible for his Children to be perfect. Jesus did not fail.
(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who is a child of God sins because God's seed remains in him. Nor can he sin, because he is a child of God. This is what distinguishes the children of God from the children of the devil: whoever does not live uprightly and does not love his brother is not from God” New Jerusalem bible
(1 John 2:5 -6) “Whoever says, 'I know him' without keeping his commandments, is a liar, and truth has no place in him. But anyone who does keep his word, in such a one God's love truly reaches its perfection. This is the proof that we are in God. Whoever claims to remain in him must act as he acted.”
To prove me wrong you can’t just say I only know the above scripture, but you need to prove that scripture is wrong.
Well...we can't go the way JohnLove is going, because he is doing two wrong things simultaneously - he is making a law of the New Testament, AND he is not fitting together the verses that are at tension to the ones he favors.
But we also can't go the way of saying that it is impossible to walk sinless in Christ either, because we know that if we abide in Him, we do not sin. So rather than beginning our race of faith with the assumption that He sets the race before us WHILE simultaneously making it impossible, we should race to win!
So our laboring should be to keep abiding in Him! Because when we abide, we do not sin.
But whatever things are not of faith (abiding) and trust in Him are sin.
This includes worries and anxieties about temporal provision as well as worries and anxieties about spiritual provision.
But we also can't go the way of saying that it is impossible to walk sinless in Christ either, because we know that if we abide in Him, we do not sin. So rather than beginning our race of faith with the assumption that He sets the race before us WHILE simultaneously making it impossible, we should race to win!
So our laboring should be to keep abiding in Him! Because when we abide, we do not sin.
But whatever things are not of faith (abiding) and trust in Him are sin.
This includes worries and anxieties about temporal provision as well as worries and anxieties about spiritual provision.