Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot

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dcontroversal said:
Amen......why even witness, preach, proclaim the truth......According to the Calvinites, you have no choice and you either make the cut or are up the proverbial creek.......!
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Because you could be the instrument through which God uses to bring people to Salvation.

And because you can't really help it because the Truth just comes bubbling out.... You are what God has made you.



Even if you did have a choice you wouldn't have the skill or the ability to do what only God can do. You can't overpower God by an act of your will and make Him save you.
 
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Duskey said:
Christ’s death only covers your past sins and not your sins of today and tomorrow? That means you’re condemned.
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I am born again and have been set free from the power of sin......Christ rules in my life...having received the Holy Spirit...it is Christ who lives in my heart.
Transforming me day by day to be more like Jesus.renewing my mind.
Sin has no hold over me.
 
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Grandpa said:
Because you could be the instrument through which God uses to bring people to Salvation.

And because you can't really help it because the Truth just comes bubbling out.... You are what God has made you.



Even if you did have a choice you wouldn't have the skill or the ability to do what only God can do. You can't overpower God by an act of your will and make Him save you.
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But only for the selected correct, those God has sovereignty selected leaving the others with no "irresistible grace" by which they could become saved.

"Make him save you" :unsure::(


who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
1 Timothy 2:4
 
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Grandpa said:
Because you could be the instrument through which God uses to bring people to Salvation.

And because you can't really help it because the Truth just comes bubbling out.... You are what God has made you.



Even if you did have a choice you wouldn't have the skill or the ability to do what only God can do. You can't overpower God by an act of your will and make Him save you.
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Now, I've heard it all...Overpower God and make him save you????
 
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Grandpa said:
You can't overpower God by an act of your will and make Him save you.
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Jesus teaches us to ask, search and knock, and the door will be opened. There’s no need attempting to overpower God in an obviously futile manner.
 
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Duskey said:
Jesus teaches us to ask, search and knock, and the door will be opened. There’s no need attempting to overpower God in an obviously futile manner.
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God also chooses us...we were predestined..he knew us before we were born.

Hand picked by God.....what an honour.
 
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jackrosie said:
I am born again and have been set free from the power of sin......Christ rules in my life...having received the Holy Spirit...it is Christ who lives in my heart.
Transforming me day by day to be more like Jesus.renewing my mind.
Sin has no hold over me.
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You openly sin on this chat site with your passive-aggressive behavior and antagonistic mannerisms. (Red X)
 
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Duskey said:
You openly sin on this chat site with your passive-aggressive behavior and antagonistic mannerisms. (Red X)
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I stand by my post.....I have been set free...Romans 8:2.

He has also warned me about false prophets...you will know them by their fruit.....
 
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Duskey said:
Jesus teaches us to ask, search and knock, and the door will be opened. There’s no need attempting to overpower God in an obviously futile manner.
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Yes.

And if you do those things it is by Gods Will that you did them.
 
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Then honor him by conducting yourself in a more Christlike manner.
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I will let God be the judge of my honouring him.

Your words are put forth to cause discord...I question who you are in Christ.....I will have no part in that with you.
 
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1ofthem said:
Now, I've heard it all...Overpower God and make him save you????
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IF it is by your will that you decided to be saved and LET God save you then effectively your will overpowered Gods Will and made Him save you.

If it was Gods decision for you to be saved then it was Gods Will for you to be saved.


You just have to determine whose will it was that caused you to be saved. Then you will have the correct outlook on theology.
 
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Grandpa said:
IF it is by your will that you decided to be saved and LET God save you then effectively your will overpowered Gods Will and made Him save you.

If it was Gods decision for you to be saved then it was Gods Will for you to be saved.


You just have to determine whose will it was that caused you to be saved. Then you will have the correct outlook on theology.
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It is not God's will that any should perish but that all would come to repentance.

How simple is that?
 
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1ofthem said:
Now, I've heard it all...Overpower God and make him save you????
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See what this dogma does to people... their view of God becomes terribly distorted.

It skews His sovereignty to an ungodly place.
 
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EleventhHour said:
But only for the selected correct, those God has sovereignty selected leaving the others with no "irresistible grace" by which they could become saved.

"Make him save you" :unsure::(


who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
1 Timothy 2:4
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And yet what we have seen throughout history is separation between those saved and those not.

God is not strong enough to make His Desires come to pass?
 
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EleventhHour said:
See what this dogma does to people... their view of God becomes terribly distorted.

It skews His sovereignty to an ungodly place.
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God being Sovereign is not ungodly or distorted.

It is those who continue to worship their own will that have the distorted view that comes from an ungodly place.
 
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Grandpa said:
God being Sovereign is not ungodly or distorted.

It is those who continue to worship their own will that have the distorted view that comes from an ungodly place.
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Grandpa........for a believer to be saved by God.......is the biggest honour man can receive!.
 
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