Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot

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ForestGreenCook

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Your wrong
you have a man quickened while dead in sin that goes against Gods holiness and Justice

Also. As Jesus himself said. Those who believe (have faith) are not condemned. Those who do not believe are condemned already

Condemnation is only removed by faith salvation is having that condemnation removed and regeneration is the new life which comes from being set free from the penalty of sin
Quickened while dead in sin is exactly what Eph 2:1 tells us. I do not see how you can interpret it any differently.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I try to give a scripture reference with my statements, it would be helpful in my response if you would do the same, thanks.
Why do I need too. You do know the references?

The penalty of sin is death the gift of god is life

However the gift of god can not be given until the issue of sin is first resolved

That’s called justification

We are justified by faith. He who believes is not condemned. Ie it may be part of Christ’s faith on the cross. But it includes our faith
 

ForestGreenCook

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So why were the apostles sent out to preach the Good News?
The Apostles were sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel/Jacob. If they are sheep, they are already regenerated. An eternally delivered person can be lost to the knowledge of God's righteousness, and in need of being delivered (saved) from his lack of knowledge of the gospel.
 

ForestGreenCook

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Why do I need too. You do know the references?

The penalty of sin is death the gift of god is life

However the gift of god can not be given until the issue of sin is first resolved

That’s called justification

We are justified by faith. He who believes is not condemned. Ie it may be part of Christ’s faith on the cross. But it includes our faith
If you are afraid of your scripture based beliefs being proven wrong, I can understand why you will not give scriptures with your interpreted beliefs.
 
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I believe in the Sovereign God of the Bible, He predetermines everything that has happened and will ever happen in human history. All of the respected Bible Scholars and Theologians agree that the King James version is the most reliable translation.
No, sorry, all of them don't and your other point is just as ridiculous...

So...God predetermined

a. Nazi death camps
b. Timothy McVeigh blowing up the Federal Building
c. The Kennedy Assassanation
d. The murder of hundreds of millions, if not billions of babies by abortion
e. STALIN murdering millions of Soviet Citizens
f. Jim Jones and his Kool Aid Experiment
g. ETC...........!!!!!!!!

Now, use the brain that God gave you and open your eyes to the absolutely ridiculous notion that GOD predetermines EVERYTHING that has or will happen in human history......and then embrace the absolute truth that MAN HAS A CHOICE IN HIS DESTINY BY CHOICE!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Quickened while dead in sin is exactly what Eph 2:1 tells us. I do not see how you can interpret it any differently.
Because if we are dead because if sin. We must have sin removed before we can be made alive

It’s like a man is given a death sentence for a murder. He is
Basically dead. He can not be made alive (restored) unless his debt is paid first
that’s called having your debt redeemed

We are redeemed by the payment if the cross. When that is applied to the sinner that term is called justification. When the sinner is justified. His debt is paid and he is set free

Same concept. That’s why god used judicial terms so we could understand because we see it in our own lives
 
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If you are afraid of your scripture based beliefs being proven wrong, I can understand why you will not give scriptures with your interpreted beliefs.
I am not afraid of anything. I have a few passages in my response. If you are so biblically inept you’re do not recognize the passages of scripture I mentioned then you have more problems than I can help you with
 
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Please tell me where or how I can get some faith, I'm willing to pay top dollar for it. I need to buy it for my family, friends and relatives as many of them don't have it. I will sell everything I have and give it to the person who tells me where the secret stash is, or at least tell me how I can convince them to receive it by grace.
By reading and HEARING the word of God.....but hey.....we all know you will reject this truth.
 

ForestGreenCook

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They were justified from the penalty of sin which was death and because of this justification were made alive in christ

They were not saved in sin they were saved from the penalty of sin
You are right in saying that THOSE THAT CHRIST DIED FOR were saved from the penalty of their sins, but Christ only died for those that his Father gave him (John 6:39).
 
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You are right in saying that THOSE THAT CHRIST DIED FOR were saved from the penalty of their sins, but Christ only died for those that his Father gave him (John 6:39).
The sins of the whole world is clear enough.....but hey.....go ahead and change to foot notes to fit your theology....
 

ForestGreenCook

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Please tell me where or how I can get some faith, I'm willing to pay top dollar for it. I need to buy it for my family, friends and relatives as many of them don't have it. I will sell everything I have and give it to the person who tells me where the secret stash is, or at least tell me how I can convince them to receive it by grace.
You cannot buy faith. Spiritual faith comes as a fruit of the Holy Spirit (Gal 5:22). We cannot receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit until we have been quickened to a new spiritual life (Eph 2).
 

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The Lord Jesus Christ is a Calvinist, He did study scripture from a young age in the synagogue and when He began His Ministry at the age of 30 He taught the same gospel as John Calvin, so we can say He is a Calvinist as well.
Scotty, I urge you to consider the terrible things that Calvin did to fellow believers.
Please read this post.
Jesus said that we will know false teachers by their fruit. He also said,
'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to ME.'
This is a serious point to consider about Calvin.
Yes Calvin tells some truth. Also he ignores some other truth just like the Arminians. Are megachurches better? They only tell people that God loves them. That's also truth that cannot be argued, but is it the whole truth?
 

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The sins of the whole world is clear enough.....but hey.....go ahead and change to foot notes to fit your theology....
Your theology of the scriptures do not harmonize with all of the scriptures. You are not rightly dividing the word of God, and do not understand the doctrine that Christ taught.
 
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Your theology of the scriptures do not harmonize with all of the scriptures. You are not rightly dividing the word of God, and do not understand the doctrine that Christ taught.
Well I had not laughed today. Thank you!
 
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"God would have all men to be saved" Notice it doesn't say "God had determined to save all men".
Do you grasp in your mind the futility of trying to twist the scripture like you are doing to try and peddle Calvinistic dogma....?

That verse ALONE disputes the fraudulent tenant of Your religion that God only CHOSE man A for heaven, while man B thru Z cooks for eternity.....

GOD WOULD HAVE ALL OF THEM BE SAVED....not just a few followers of Calvin.....

Wake up man.....from front to back the bible drips CHOICE by man!
 
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Your theology of the scriptures do not harmonize with all of the scriptures. You are not rightly dividing the word of God, and do not understand the doctrine that Christ taught.
yeah that is all Calvinists have to say...same catch phrase....you sound like a Mormon or a Jehovah's Witness with a last ditch attempt to discredit my view because you have nothing else, other than a few catch phrases and a few out of context scriptures and redefined words............
 
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