Contradiction of WORDS
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yep. no one can come to Jesus unless the Father drags them...
i wonder sometimes if the paralytic didn't feel within his body that the Lord had already made him well.
God's work always comes first...and finally, for that matter!
i wonder sometimes if the paralytic didn't feel within his body that the Lord had already made him well.
God's work always comes first...and finally, for that matter!
to say God doesn't have free will is crazy ...is God in bondage to anything?it is not so much that God cannot lie...rather a lie cannot come before God....evil cannot survive in the presence of God... God is light and in him is no darkness...freedom is the ability to do what we ought to do....in Christ we are free.... do we use this freedom to do evil? if you do then you are not free...and that is the mark of a true believer...before Christ we were in bondage to sin...Christ came and freed us now for the first time we can choose to do right and serve God or evil and serve satan....
E
How is it crazy? Can God do anything that is against His character? Can God create something He cannot control? Does God have any equal? So I guess according to you God has the free will to lie, go against His character or create something that He cannot control. God is Sovereign and in His Sovereignty He has limited Himself to that Sovereignty. Is that hard to understand? And beside "free" and "will" are never I the same sentence together anywhere in the Bible as "free will" for man or God.
P
hmmm...according to the Bible, those who are not saved cannot love God.
we love Him because He first loved us.
the Bible is clear that Jesus was sacrificed for our sins.
it sounds like your friend, however well meaning he is,
cannot understand NT doctrine since God hasn't revealed it to him.
i'm not advocating arguing to win a debate...
but rather lives.
not for one moment do i believe Jews understand salvation better than Christians.
after all, who's more qualified to talk about something like Jesus came to save sinners
than a saved sinner?
we love Him because He first loved us.
the Bible is clear that Jesus was sacrificed for our sins.
it sounds like your friend, however well meaning he is,
cannot understand NT doctrine since God hasn't revealed it to him.
i'm not advocating arguing to win a debate...
but rather lives.
not for one moment do i believe Jews understand salvation better than Christians.
after all, who's more qualified to talk about something like Jesus came to save sinners
than a saved sinner?
salvation comes to us in three tenses:
we have been saved from the penalty of sin
we are being saved from the power of sin
we will one day be saved from the presence of sin
would you like the Scriptures?
we have been saved from the penalty of sin
we are being saved from the power of sin
we will one day be saved from the presence of sin
would you like the Scriptures?
saved from the power of sin....and still a sinner?
if you are still a sinner how do you expect to be saved from the presence of sin?
T
If good works are evidence for genuine faith, then the works themselves must be genuine. If the works are genuine, then they must be beneficial to our salvation.
It might be best to eye salvation in a way where it is more of an ongoing process. For example, view the relationship between you and your cousins. Even though they are flesh and blood, they are not innately your best friends. Both you and them must contribute to the relationship in order to enhance and continue it.
The same logic is applicable to the relationship between God and mankind. Even though the Christian may already be connected with God in the person of Christ, this Christian must do his or her part in order to maintain the connection.
Christ tell us that maintaining this connection requires us to pray, to help others in need, and to build up, not just the community of faith, but any benevolent business or entity. Such things require effort on our part; and in conjunction with our natural temptations, Satan may tempt us to not help others because "we are too tired" or "it's none of my business" or "this person doesn't deserve it".
A good rule of thumb: If Satan is against it, then God is for it.
If we feel like helping the poor and needy, then these desires must be coming from a benevolent source. Planting fruits such as love and compassion keeps this Earth morally stable, and planting these fruits require effort on our part.
Doing good works is like planting seeds that grow many years down the road.
A true child of God will not plant the seeds of strife. We know others by their fruits, or actions, and these actions determine the person is benevolent or malevolent, and how God himself would look at that person.
It's not easy for a person of faith is keep the faith. Have you ever experienced dryness in prayer? Would you find it easier to pray if your cousin prays with you? Good works are not only results of faith, but also help maintain faith.