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In other words a person gets saved and is eternally secure and will go to the kingdom no matter what they do. Salvation is this positional abstraction which has nothing to do with a transformed heart and thus one can just keep on sinning.
Saved people can even rape babies and murder people and will just receive chastisement in this world instead of blessings.
Even though Paul warned...
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Paul warned...
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Paul warned...
Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
Eph 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
John warned...
Rev 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Jesus taught...
Mat 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
People just don't believe the Bible. They actually believe they can sin and not surely die and will oppose those who oppose such a message.
Good is called evil today and evil is called good. Truly things are upside down.
Saved people can even rape babies and murder people and will just receive chastisement in this world instead of blessings.
Even though Paul warned...
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Paul warned...
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Paul warned...
Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
Eph 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
John warned...
Rev 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Jesus taught...
Mat 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
People just don't believe the Bible. They actually believe they can sin and not surely die and will oppose those who oppose such a message.
Good is called evil today and evil is called good. Truly things are upside down.
Actually, it is Skinski7ism that has redefined the terms.
Salvation is not a "divine influence."
It is a transplant, from the kingdom of darkness to the kingdom of light.
The object of NT faith is Jesus Christ.
Saving faith = believing in + obeying Jesus Christ's commands and exhortations given by the NT writers.
That's sanctification after salvation (past).
Salvation is from the wrath of God (Ro 5:9) on guilt at the final judgment, because by grace
through faith God has justified, declared one "not guilty" and in "rightwise" standing with him.
The meaning of the Greek word repentance is "change of mind."
It's cause and its results are not in its definition.
The rebellion of all mankind, prior to faith, is unbelief.
All sin of the born again is forgiven and purified by confession (1Jn 1:8-10).
Salvation is not a "divine influence."
It is a transplant, from the kingdom of darkness to the kingdom of light.
The object of NT faith is Jesus Christ.
Saving faith = believing in + obeying Jesus Christ's commands and exhortations given by the NT writers.
That's sanctification after salvation (past).
Salvation is from the wrath of God (Ro 5:9) on guilt at the final judgment, because by grace
through faith God has justified, declared one "not guilty" and in "rightwise" standing with him.
The meaning of the Greek word repentance is "change of mind."
It's cause and its results are not in its definition.
The rebellion of all mankind, prior to faith, is unbelief.
All sin of the born again is forgiven and purified by confession (1Jn 1:8-10).
I was deceived too for over a decade.
I was a Calvinist without knowing what a Calvinist was. I was primarily deceived by Stewart Best, Paul Washer and David Eells. I lapped up their material like it was nothing else until I was actually compelled to actually read the different books of the Bible as a WHOLE instead of focusing on proof texts.
The lie is built by taking little tid bits from here and there and putting them together to build a lie. The verses are completely ripped out of their context. The entire lie is firmly established on the Original Sin doctrine.
The lie is like an onion with layer upon layer. Each underlying layer affirms the next layer and thus there is an inbuilt defence mechanism. That is why people can debate the outer layers like OSAS vs nonOSAS and never get anywhere because they will come up against deeper layers which assert the upper layers.
By going for the root of the lie and breaking it down the whole thing collapses.
I was a Calvinist without knowing what a Calvinist was. I was primarily deceived by Stewart Best, Paul Washer and David Eells. I lapped up their material like it was nothing else until I was actually compelled to actually read the different books of the Bible as a WHOLE instead of focusing on proof texts.
The lie is built by taking little tid bits from here and there and putting them together to build a lie. The verses are completely ripped out of their context. The entire lie is firmly established on the Original Sin doctrine.
The lie is like an onion with layer upon layer. Each underlying layer affirms the next layer and thus there is an inbuilt defence mechanism. That is why people can debate the outer layers like OSAS vs nonOSAS and never get anywhere because they will come up against deeper layers which assert the upper layers.
By going for the root of the lie and breaking it down the whole thing collapses.
What you fail to understand cannot even be listed as it would take another 50 pages of text, but I will list a few...
1. There is NONE good as ALL are sinners and sin EVEN after biblical salvation.
2. To break the least commandment of the LAW makes one GUILTY of the whole
3. GOOD WORKS do not save, add to salvation, keep you saved as the GOOD WORKS come from JESUS and NOT YOU
4. The question has been answered numerous times by numerous people and in context and yet you are blind to the truth, will continue to be blind to the truth and will die still believing in you COC works for salvation.
5. Galatians teaches clearly that a MAN is saved and justified by the perfect FAITH of JESUS and ANY MAN, RELIGION, GROUP that ADDS WORKS teaches a heretical, false gospel which is NOT THE SAME gospel that is being taught by PAUL and is double cursed to HELL
6. You better open your eyes as you teach a false gospel and are found under the banner of a false teacher and it will not be good for you when you take your last breath...SERIOUS.....you should take your head out of the religious SAND and open your eyes to the truth before it is too late..
ANSWER me this....
O FOOLISH GALATIANS, who hath BEWITCHED YOU (CAMPBELL) that you should not obey the truth, before whose EYES Jesus Christ that been evidently set forth , crucified among you? This only would I LEARN OF YOU. RECIEVED ye the SPIRIT by the WORKS of the LAW, or by the HEARING of FAITH? ARE YE SO FOOLISH? Having begun in the SPIRIT, are ye now made perfect (complete) by the flesh<<----Indicative of the works of the law
This is exactly what you and your cronies teach that being that you are saved and kept saved by works..IT IS HERESY and you are a FALSE TEACHER......I really suggest that you open your eyes before you die in your sins while trusting into your works...The Pharisees taught the same thing that you teach...I suggest you go see what Jesus said about them as they made men TWO FOLD the children of HELL by their false doctrine, were called BLIND and white washed coffins filed with the bones of DEAD men!
1. There is NONE good as ALL are sinners and sin EVEN after biblical salvation.
2. To break the least commandment of the LAW makes one GUILTY of the whole
3. GOOD WORKS do not save, add to salvation, keep you saved as the GOOD WORKS come from JESUS and NOT YOU
4. The question has been answered numerous times by numerous people and in context and yet you are blind to the truth, will continue to be blind to the truth and will die still believing in you COC works for salvation.
5. Galatians teaches clearly that a MAN is saved and justified by the perfect FAITH of JESUS and ANY MAN, RELIGION, GROUP that ADDS WORKS teaches a heretical, false gospel which is NOT THE SAME gospel that is being taught by PAUL and is double cursed to HELL
6. You better open your eyes as you teach a false gospel and are found under the banner of a false teacher and it will not be good for you when you take your last breath...SERIOUS.....you should take your head out of the religious SAND and open your eyes to the truth before it is too late..
ANSWER me this....
O FOOLISH GALATIANS, who hath BEWITCHED YOU (CAMPBELL) that you should not obey the truth, before whose EYES Jesus Christ that been evidently set forth , crucified among you? This only would I LEARN OF YOU. RECIEVED ye the SPIRIT by the WORKS of the LAW, or by the HEARING of FAITH? ARE YE SO FOOLISH? Having begun in the SPIRIT, are ye now made perfect (complete) by the flesh<<----Indicative of the works of the law
This is exactly what you and your cronies teach that being that you are saved and kept saved by works..IT IS HERESY and you are a FALSE TEACHER......I really suggest that you open your eyes before you die in your sins while trusting into your works...The Pharisees taught the same thing that you teach...I suggest you go see what Jesus said about them as they made men TWO FOLD the children of HELL by their false doctrine, were called BLIND and white washed coffins filed with the bones of DEAD men!
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And that would be a bad thing to you?
No wonder you don't believe the gospel of free grace, you don't even like free grace.
I say, "Praise God for making me willing, because I would never have been on my own."
What a strange response to God's work of changing a heart and making it willing.
Yeah, they got it from Paul's description of the absolute spiritual powerless
of the sinful unregenerate nature of man in Ro 8:7-8.
Shame on them for believing the word of God!
What a deficient view of the power of God's grace from the foolish notions of human reasoning.
Praise God for the kidnapping and the destination to which it takes me!
To God be the glory!
The stupidity is not in the NT word of God, it's manifestly in Skinski7ism.
Skinski7ism demonstrates here where the stupidity really lies.
No wonder you don't believe the gospel of free grace, you don't even like free grace.
I say, "Praise God for making me willing, because I would never have been on my own."
What a strange response to God's work of changing a heart and making it willing.
Yeah, they got it from Paul's description of the absolute spiritual powerless
of the sinful unregenerate nature of man in Ro 8:7-8.
Shame on them for believing the word of God!
What a deficient view of the power of God's grace from the foolish notions of human reasoning.
Praise God for the kidnapping and the destination to which it takes me!
To God be the glory!
The stupidity is not in the NT word of God, it's manifestly in Skinski7ism.
Skinski7ism demonstrates here where the stupidity really lies.
But that is not the meaning. The broader context says Isa 53:4,5 "Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."
Christ's wounds and bruises was for our healing. Isa 53:6 goes on to say "All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all."
The context shows me Jesus did not do all this suffering for Himself but did it for you, me and everyone else. He suffered for OUR healing, He hath borne OUR griefs, the Lord laid on Him OUR iniquity.
Heb 9:28 "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation."
It is pointing out one person will not have to give account for the sins of another, one person will not be lost on the account of another person's sins. "The soul that sinneth, it shall die" each person will be held accountable and will die for his OWN sins.
In the OT, offering of the blood of bulls and goats could bring one forgiveness.
If the blood of animals cold be used to forgive sins then why not the blood of a perfectly sinless sacrifice as Christ?
Heb 9:14 "How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?"
Christ's wounds and bruises was for our healing. Isa 53:6 goes on to say "All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all."
The context shows me Jesus did not do all this suffering for Himself but did it for you, me and everyone else. He suffered for OUR healing, He hath borne OUR griefs, the Lord laid on Him OUR iniquity.
Heb 9:28 "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation."
It is pointing out one person will not have to give account for the sins of another, one person will not be lost on the account of another person's sins. "The soul that sinneth, it shall die" each person will be held accountable and will die for his OWN sins.
In the OT, offering of the blood of bulls and goats could bring one forgiveness.
If the blood of animals cold be used to forgive sins then why not the blood of a perfectly sinless sacrifice as Christ?
Heb 9:14 "How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?"
I cut the rest out because you, like everyone else who believes in works for salvation added to, embellished and stated something that I did not say so what does that make you.....?
Second, if we say that we have NO SIN (PRESENT CONTEXT) then we are a what?
Third...a saved CHILD OF GOD can and does sin, but does not live a continual LIFESTYLE of sin...
WAS DAVID a saved child of GOD after GOD'S on heart and mind when he commited adultery and then Killed URIAH so he could have BATHSHEBA? YES and as a child of God he paid the price in his PHYSICAL life by the CHASTENING HAND OF GOD, but STILL REMAINED a child of God...
You know when you add to someone's word and accuse them of saying something that they did not say that makes you a liar....so now that you broke the what 7th or 8th commandment and sinned does that mean you lost your salvation?
Second, if we say that we have NO SIN (PRESENT CONTEXT) then we are a what?
Third...a saved CHILD OF GOD can and does sin, but does not live a continual LIFESTYLE of sin...
WAS DAVID a saved child of GOD after GOD'S on heart and mind when he commited adultery and then Killed URIAH so he could have BATHSHEBA? YES and as a child of God he paid the price in his PHYSICAL life by the CHASTENING HAND OF GOD, but STILL REMAINED a child of God...
You know when you add to someone's word and accuse them of saying something that they did not say that makes you a liar....so now that you broke the what 7th or 8th commandment and sinned does that mean you lost your salvation?
What Paul says:
1) ye were the servants of sin
2) but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
3) Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
Note the order of events? Note how Paul put obeying from the heart BEFORE BEFORE BEFORE being made free from sin and servant of righteousness.
Why do you twist my words?
Grace is the divine influence on our hearts, not salvation. Salvation is the destination, grace is the means of getting there when it is combined with a working faith.
Here is the definition from Strong's...
Here is what the Bible teaches of it...
Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
The grace of God that brings salvation teaches us the way we should go. Grace is God's godly influence on our heart. There it is right there in the Bible defined by Paul.
Yes that is right. Faith is wholeheartedly yielding to the grace of God. The commandments and exhortations of Jesus Christ are all part of God's grace as well as the light of conscience. Faith is therefore what makes grace effectual to the saving of the soul. Believing in and obeying is the same thing as wholeheartedly yielding because one truly believes and agrees.
No it isn't. Sanctification is the growth to maturity with an ALREADY pure heart. The heart is made pure through repentance and faith because the iniquity within is purged once and for all.
Peter here is speaking to babes (1Pet 2:2) in Christ...
1Pe 1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
The babes in Christ are pure, they just don't know much. Sanctification is when we grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ. It is not about sinning less or being wicked less. The wickedness has ceased or one is still under condemnation.
Yes salvation is from the wrath of God but that is not all it is. That verse you allude to says this...
Rom 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
We are justified by His blood because it is by the blood we approach God with a true heart and are then washed clean...
Heb 10:19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
Heb 10:20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
Heb 10:21 And having an high priest over the house of God;
Heb 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
That verse in Romans says we are saved THROUGH Him, that is we are saved via the dynamic of abiding in the Spirit of His life. You omit that from your gospel.
What you leave out of your gospel message is "saved FROM sin."
Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
You instead teach you get "saved IN sin" and thus the sin continues after salvation. That is why you NEVER discuss purity of heart. You cannot discuss purity of heart because a pure heart and sinning don't mix. Thus you have to ignore heart purity and argue in favour of sinning.
The salvation you believe in is not salvation at all. Even David made reference to a heart devoid of guile in relation to the forgiveness of sins...
Psa 32:1 A Psalm of David, Maschil. Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
Psa 32:2 Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.
The salvation you teach is merely a cloak for ongoing guile because you believe that the flesh is sinful. You preach a weak and ineffectual salvation which leaves people still enslaved to sin just freed from condemnation. It is a total deception which tickles the ears of sinners who refuse to forsake their sin.
This is an example where you throw reason right out the window. A changed mind necessitates results and that is why Paul preached...
Act 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
It is impossible to repent and turn to God and keep on sinning and turning away from God. All through the Bible deeds are connected to repentance. Isaiah, Jeremiah, Jonah, John the Baptist, Jesus, Paul, Peter, James all connected changed deeds with a changed mind.
You cannot serve Satan with your deeds and serve God with your mind and be saved. No. Such a thing is worldy sorrow. Look at what Paul writes about godly sorrow...
2Co 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
2Co 7:11 For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.
Godly sorrow produces all those things listed in verse 11. The reason Paul would preach repentance proven by deeds was to ensure that the repentance in people was real. Just like how James connects faith and works together, there cannot be one without the other.
This is all very simple. Why would you want to teach a repentance where nothing changes? Do you really want a doctrine where child molesters can enter the kingdom still molesting children? That is insane.
Sin if forgiven on the condition we are walking in the light.
1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
You ought not snip select verses and ignore the surrounding context. 1 Joh 1:8-10 do not exist in a vacuum.
One cannot be engaging in wickedness and be walking in the light at the same time. That is impossible.
The false gospel asserts that one can be engaged in wickedness and cleansed because they assert "saved IN sins" and deny "saved FROM sin" like the Bible teaches.
That is why I can quote Romans chapter 6 and no-one who opposes "saved FROM sin" will comment on those verses. Look at all the replies to my posts and there are Biblical passages like Romans 6 which people will not touch. Why is that?
People stick to their out of context proof texts and completely ignore much of the Bible. That is why I call them Bible Butchers.
You are a Bible Butcher Elin.
Grace is the divine influence on our hearts, not salvation. Salvation is the destination, grace is the means of getting there when it is combined with a working faith.
Here is the definition from Strong's...
Here is what the Bible teaches of it...
Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
The grace of God that brings salvation teaches us the way we should go. Grace is God's godly influence on our heart. There it is right there in the Bible defined by Paul.
Yes that is right. Faith is wholeheartedly yielding to the grace of God. The commandments and exhortations of Jesus Christ are all part of God's grace as well as the light of conscience. Faith is therefore what makes grace effectual to the saving of the soul. Believing in and obeying is the same thing as wholeheartedly yielding because one truly believes and agrees.
No it isn't. Sanctification is the growth to maturity with an ALREADY pure heart. The heart is made pure through repentance and faith because the iniquity within is purged once and for all.
Peter here is speaking to babes (1Pet 2:2) in Christ...
1Pe 1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
The babes in Christ are pure, they just don't know much. Sanctification is when we grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ. It is not about sinning less or being wicked less. The wickedness has ceased or one is still under condemnation.
Yes salvation is from the wrath of God but that is not all it is. That verse you allude to says this...
Rom 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
We are justified by His blood because it is by the blood we approach God with a true heart and are then washed clean...
Heb 10:19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
Heb 10:20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
Heb 10:21 And having an high priest over the house of God;
Heb 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
That verse in Romans says we are saved THROUGH Him, that is we are saved via the dynamic of abiding in the Spirit of His life. You omit that from your gospel.
What you leave out of your gospel message is "saved FROM sin."
Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
You instead teach you get "saved IN sin" and thus the sin continues after salvation. That is why you NEVER discuss purity of heart. You cannot discuss purity of heart because a pure heart and sinning don't mix. Thus you have to ignore heart purity and argue in favour of sinning.
The salvation you believe in is not salvation at all. Even David made reference to a heart devoid of guile in relation to the forgiveness of sins...
Psa 32:1 A Psalm of David, Maschil. Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
Psa 32:2 Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.
The salvation you teach is merely a cloak for ongoing guile because you believe that the flesh is sinful. You preach a weak and ineffectual salvation which leaves people still enslaved to sin just freed from condemnation. It is a total deception which tickles the ears of sinners who refuse to forsake their sin.
This is an example where you throw reason right out the window. A changed mind necessitates results and that is why Paul preached...
Act 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
It is impossible to repent and turn to God and keep on sinning and turning away from God. All through the Bible deeds are connected to repentance. Isaiah, Jeremiah, Jonah, John the Baptist, Jesus, Paul, Peter, James all connected changed deeds with a changed mind.
You cannot serve Satan with your deeds and serve God with your mind and be saved. No. Such a thing is worldy sorrow. Look at what Paul writes about godly sorrow...
2Co 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
2Co 7:11 For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.
Godly sorrow produces all those things listed in verse 11. The reason Paul would preach repentance proven by deeds was to ensure that the repentance in people was real. Just like how James connects faith and works together, there cannot be one without the other.
This is all very simple. Why would you want to teach a repentance where nothing changes? Do you really want a doctrine where child molesters can enter the kingdom still molesting children? That is insane.
Sin if forgiven on the condition we are walking in the light.
1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
You ought not snip select verses and ignore the surrounding context. 1 Joh 1:8-10 do not exist in a vacuum.
One cannot be engaging in wickedness and be walking in the light at the same time. That is impossible.
The false gospel asserts that one can be engaged in wickedness and cleansed because they assert "saved IN sins" and deny "saved FROM sin" like the Bible teaches.
That is why I can quote Romans chapter 6 and no-one who opposes "saved FROM sin" will comment on those verses. Look at all the replies to my posts and there are Biblical passages like Romans 6 which people will not touch. Why is that?
People stick to their out of context proof texts and completely ignore much of the Bible. That is why I call them Bible Butchers.
You are a Bible Butcher Elin.
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Maybe you should study as the word obeyed mean to pay attention to, pay heed to , to be attentive to and to confirm and has nothing to do with WORKS or OBEYING A COMMAND in order to receive something that is free and a gift....
Again your COC works for salvation taints your view, blinds your eyes and will take you some place that you do not want to go!
Again your COC works for salvation taints your view, blinds your eyes and will take you some place that you do not want to go!