Eternal Security You CANNOT lose your salvation! by David J. Stewart | January 2004
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Thanks BeyondET.
It's OK.
I know theology REALLY WELL.
Problem is, some don't want to know theology, the study of God.
They want to know something that was taught 1,500 years after Christianity was created by our LORD and SAVIOR, Jesus.
I've said many times that all those theologians that came before Calvin must have been really dumb not to see OSAS in the New Testament.
Jesus is our LORD and Savior. I wonder if people know what this means??
If He is NOT OUR LORD, He cannot be our SAVIOR.
Seems simple, doesn't it.
Well, to you and I it is, but some refuse it.
I have to trust God's goodness and mercy to save us based on our heart and not on our doctrine.
But this does frighten me a little, how some twist words around to suit their own beliefs.
It's OK.
I know theology REALLY WELL.
Problem is, some don't want to know theology, the study of God.
They want to know something that was taught 1,500 years after Christianity was created by our LORD and SAVIOR, Jesus.
I've said many times that all those theologians that came before Calvin must have been really dumb not to see OSAS in the New Testament.
Jesus is our LORD and Savior. I wonder if people know what this means??
If He is NOT OUR LORD, He cannot be our SAVIOR.
Seems simple, doesn't it.
Well, to you and I it is, but some refuse it.
I have to trust God's goodness and mercy to save us based on our heart and not on our doctrine.
But this does frighten me a little, how some twist words around to suit their own beliefs.
Amen...scriptures bear this truth out.
True biblical belief is of the heart - not in the head or mind. God looks on the heart - man look on the outward appearance.
Getting "saved" is simple.
Romans 10:9-10 (NASB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
[SUP]10 [/SUP] for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
The process is simple too.
1) we hear the message of Christ - the gospel of our salvation in Him
2) we believe the message from our hearts
3) we were sealed with the Holy Spirit ( Jesus said in John 14:16 that the Holy Spirit will be with us and in us forever - now was Jesus lying or is he like a "bait and switch" car salesman that has "fine print" which He doesn't talk about )
Ephesians 1:13 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, = 1) the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, = 2) you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, = 3)
you were sealed = aorist indicative tense / passive voice = a one time event in the past.
Passive voice = the sealing was not done by us but by an outside force - the Holy Spirit Himself.
True biblical belief is of the heart - not in the head or mind. God looks on the heart - man look on the outward appearance.
Getting "saved" is simple.
Romans 10:9-10 (NASB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
[SUP]10 [/SUP] for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
The process is simple too.
1) we hear the message of Christ - the gospel of our salvation in Him
2) we believe the message from our hearts
3) we were sealed with the Holy Spirit ( Jesus said in John 14:16 that the Holy Spirit will be with us and in us forever - now was Jesus lying or is he like a "bait and switch" car salesman that has "fine print" which He doesn't talk about )
Ephesians 1:13 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, = 1) the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, = 2) you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, = 3)
you were sealed = aorist indicative tense / passive voice = a one time event in the past.
Passive voice = the sealing was not done by us but by an outside force - the Holy Spirit Himself.
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He died for us while we were enemies. Yet as His children He Won't keep us safe? The logical conclusion is it is safer to stay an enemy.
37But in all these things we overwhelmingly conquer through Him who loved us. 38For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 39nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
37But in all these things we overwhelmingly conquer through Him who loved us. 38For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 39nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Sorry but your understanding places responsibility for salvation on you and not wholly on Christ. You do not understand the Lordship of Christ confusing it with earthly understanding when Holy Spirit understanding is required.
Lordship includes the biblical fact that we are the Lords and not ourselves.
1Co 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.
Working to keep salvation is the same as working to obtain salvation. Either is mixing works with grace which is not the way God has chosen to save those who call upon Him.
We work not to be saved or to keep saved but because we are saved and now know and love Jesus.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Lordship includes the biblical fact that we are the Lords and not ourselves.
1Co 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.
Working to keep salvation is the same as working to obtain salvation. Either is mixing works with grace which is not the way God has chosen to save those who call upon Him.
We work not to be saved or to keep saved but because we are saved and now know and love Jesus.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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Refuse what? To look at history OUTSIDE THE WORD OF GOD? You bet you, I do not trust that history, I only trust God and his word..
Catholics are the ones who use that excuse Of course they should they controlled history for those 1500 years you keep talking about.
The bible is what matters, the bible teaches eternal security, it does not matter what some so called theologian 1500 years ago said. What matters is what God said,
Catholics are the ones who use that excuse Of course they should they controlled history for those 1500 years you keep talking about.
The bible is what matters, the bible teaches eternal security, it does not matter what some so called theologian 1500 years ago said. What matters is what God said,
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