HIZIKYAH'S TOPIC: DID PAUL SIN [DESPITE BEING T DESIGNATED HUMAN EXAMPLE IN THE NT]?
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"inconsequential" ? Really?
in·con·se·quen·tial
adjective \(ˌ)in-ˌkän(t)-sə-ˈkwen(t)-shəl\
: not important
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a : illogical
b : irrelevant
So doesn't matter which one is inspired by the Savior and which one is forged? Am i understanding you right?
I see you will not rest until you have the truth.
wait I said that wrong.
I see you wont truth until you have rest.
how is altering it still truth? It would no longer be truth if it was altered.
That is why we must be diligent in searching Scripture as a whole to make sure it all lines up!
For it is written for our learning:
1 Corinthians 10:11, "Now these things happened to them as an example, and they were written for our instruction, upon whom the ends of the ages have come"
Romans 15:4, "For whatever was written in former days was written for our instruction, that through endurance and through the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope."
Hosheyah 4:6, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you will be no priest to Me. Because you have forgotten the Law of Yahweh, I will also forget your children."
That is why we must be diligent in searching Scripture as a whole to make sure it all lines up!
For it is written for our learning:
1 Corinthians 10:11, "Now these things happened to them as an example, and they were written for our instruction, upon whom the ends of the ages have come"
Romans 15:4, "For whatever was written in former days was written for our instruction, that through endurance and through the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope."
Hosheyah 4:6, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you will be no priest to Me. Because you have forgotten the Law of Yahweh, I will also forget your children."
K
Re: HIZIKYAH'S TOPIC: DID PAUL SIN [DESPITE BEING T DESIGNATED HUMAN EXAMPLE IN THE
Actually there is no difference in the interpretation of Revelation 22:14 unless one wants to put a difference or contradiction there.
Look into your heart and mind as the Holy Spirit guides you, and you will see that those who follow and obey His commands are those who wash their robes. As to when you obey His commands to repent and be baptized then you are given remission of sins to cleanse your robes. Being washed clean ( white robes ) means your sins have been cleansed and covered by His blood. This is done by obeying His commands of repentance and baptism for being born again.
Actually there is no difference in the interpretation of Revelation 22:14 unless one wants to put a difference or contradiction there.
Look into your heart and mind as the Holy Spirit guides you, and you will see that those who follow and obey His commands are those who wash their robes. As to when you obey His commands to repent and be baptized then you are given remission of sins to cleanse your robes. Being washed clean ( white robes ) means your sins have been cleansed and covered by His blood. This is done by obeying His commands of repentance and baptism for being born again.
I agree obedience is a effect of true faith, again one can not follow without faith, but I would say following is the key, here is why;
Yahshua (Jesus) said;
John 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."
again without a doubt obedience stems from belief;
John 5:24, "Most certainly I tell you, he who hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life."
However that does not cancel out the prior verse, but rather fully explains the cause and effect IMO.
Yahshua (Jesus) said;
John 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."
again without a doubt obedience stems from belief;
John 5:24, "Most certainly I tell you, he who hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life."
However that does not cancel out the prior verse, but rather fully explains the cause and effect IMO.
Ok from this view I agree because people don all speak the same language and to translate it for another language is a blessing IMO. But I think when the words are altered like in Rev 22:14 or words added like in 1 John 5:7-8 there is in my view a problem, because if that was the intention of Yah He would not need man to add it in 500-1000 yrs later. and Lets say the rev 22:1 was supposed to say to be obedient and another version alters that, people would not receive the true message set forth by Yah.
K
They are all inspired by God, if you let the Holy Spirit guide you into the correct understanding of the scripture.
Those who personally try to privately interpret them for themselves, and do not let the Holy Spirit open their eyes to the truth. Get blinded to the truth into unlearned and unstable ways, as do those who take Paul's words out of context to make him sound as if he preached another gospel then the Lord Jesus.
Of course, im not a KJV only guy, I actually do not have a favorite translation, but rather what ever is translated the best from what I believe is the most reliable text, which is a task in itself because IDK who the "scholars" are that make opinions on this text or that. so deep study and prayer I believe leads the way. (PS one really amazing thing to me was the discovery of a complete version of Isayah (Yeshayah) found in the dead sea scrolls, for multiple reason IMO, one and most important Isayah I believe covers a braoder span tha most if not all prophets, and he talks of the Messiah in detail, and when I was a child I used to read Isayah over and over, so to have a discovery that was older than any previous text (if I remember correctly) and its content had not been altered!!!! praise be to Yah for He is the Mighty One, for He it will either be His or or it will be His way! He is the Mighty One!)