You tell us. You're the one who says if you sin too much God will kill you. How is that 1) having "no sin to be accountable for", and, 2) not quantifying sin?
You sure enjoy twisting things don't you? That's what makes you so dangerous to less knowledgeable Christians. You bear false witness and then play the angel.
Correction, as any good father would do,
is not damnation, nor is it because we have sin attributed to us. According to your doctrine, a wayward Christian is a sign one was not really saved, or was saved and lost their salvation. Either way, it's off to hell with them.
God is patient with His children. His discipline is to cause growth - not to punish for sin. We have no sin to pay for. If we did, Jesus would have to come back and die to pay for them - and that's not gonna happen.
There have been Christians who have refused God's correction - those who sully the name of the One who bought them - that God has removed. As Paul spoke of in 1 Corinthians 11.
But their salvation is
secure!
For the sake of your doctrine, let's define the death of the flesh in 1 Corinthians 5 as physical death. If your doctrine is correct and that there is no sin that a Christian is accountable for, and so he or she can sin as much or as little as they want ( doesn't make any difference, they are still saved), why does the sinning fellow in 1 Corinthians 5:1-5 have to die so that "so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus."?
Paul is speaking of the man who is sleeping with his father's wife and would not stop. Paul says to turn him over for the destruction of his flesh,
knowing that his soul is saved. You actually made my point. It's not his death that saves him, he was already saved, his shameful behavior simply resulted in the destruction of his flesh. If this man was not already saved, Paul wouldn't have the authority to "turn him over" to Satan -
Satan would already have the authority to kill him - as the devil would be his father, as he is the father of all of the lost.
I am not perfect, but I am obedient. I'm living for Christ, and when I fail I seek his forgiveness and I repent and move on.
You sin every day, Ralph. But you minimize it so that you can elevate yourself.
And as far as seeking His forgiveness - forgiveness for what? Either all sins were forgiven at the cross, or we're all in big trouble.
How many sins didn't the blood cover, Ralph? How many remain to be forgiven? Because, yet again, the bible says without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. If we have a single sin to pay for, we'd better hope Jesus comes back to be crucified again.
Let me help you with that......yes, I am. I am living for Christ. I'm a new creation growing up into the stature of Christ. Are you? Or are you taking false comfort in a doctrine that says sin, and even unbelief, doesn't matter?
You are not obeying God's commandments because the Bible says no one can fully obey them. Not even the Jews to whom His Law was given. You are delusional to even think you can. You break one, you're guilty of breaking them all. And if you somehow could obey all of His commandments, you wouldn't need Christ.
I'm betting you'll continue to think obedience as a sign you are saved is not Biblical.
I have always said we should live as holy a life as we can, as a witness to men. But good works don't prove one is saved, because the lost can do the same good works.
We've been over this. Lost people don't die for their enemies.
Many Christians won't die for their enemies either.
You know exactly what I mean by good works. Feeding the hungry, visiting the sick, clothing the naked, etc.
The unbeliever does not, and can not persevere in righteous suffering.
An unbeliever can persevere in suffering. Millions of people from false religions call it "righteous" as well.
Next.
We see Christ most clearly in ourselves when we are facing our enemies. It really comes down to how you treat those who mistreat you. Are you growing up into the image of Christ in your suffering? If you're not, you have to wonder if you really have Christ in you at all. You have to look different than unbelievers in this regard or else you may not be saved at all. There really is a difference between what unbelievers can't do and what believers can do.
So, it finally boils down to "suffering" with you, huh? Your inner martyr is showing itself again. Your insatiable need to "prove" yourself to God and others. Oh, the praise you must drink up for being so "humble" and so "holy", as you stand bravely before the onslaught of those who think you are simply full of yourself.
One is a Christian if they believe in Jesus for salvation - whether they suffer a little, a lot, or not at all.
Period.