Is Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) a total joke?

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So. his whole basis for slamming some guy is he said their were dino and human footprints found together (which there HAVE BEEN IN A FEW PLACES).

You said that dinosaur and human footprints have been found together, right?

And you keep saying you have seen the proof.

What proof?

Do you understand the question?

Why are you having such a problem saying what that proof is?
 
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seems Wikipedia didn't freely tell about the likes of [Quick....lets discriminate]creationists and/or the [Slaughter of the Disserdents] - btw Evolution is pseudo science as is Big bang creation out of nothing as is dark matter and dark energy etc - wincam
What's a disserdent?

So did Dr. (phony PhD) Jerry Bergman get fired for his views on Young Earth Creationism (which he claimed in the court case he lost) or did he get fired for reverse racial discrimination (as he claimed in the white supremacist magazine of David Duke, former head of KKK)?

You are offending YECs.

So I critiqued your disserdents, what do you think of this "Am I Offending YECs?" article:

Creation Science: Am I Offending YEC's?

It starts out with:

Many have accused me of unchristian behavior, and offending fellow Christians (YECs) with my comments. Why point out flaws and degrade other Christians' beliefs?


 
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Dr. Dino sure does call out all the evolution nonsense. From Chapter 4 of his book Unmasking the False Religion of Evolution:

"The Smithsonian Institute has 33,000 sets of human remains in their basement ... Many of them were taken while the people were still alive. They were so desperate to find missing links, so desperate to prove their theory that they murdered people to prove it. It was the philosophy of evolution that drove them."

No doubt you know about what his son Little Dino (Eric) said about the Duggar controversy.

Pathetic.
Who cares...the fact that such a silly man could make a case that destroys evolution is a sign of how silly evolution is...
 
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Who cares...the fact that such a silly man could make a case that destroys evolution is a sign of how silly evolution is...
Oh, so you find silly men credible, do you?

How exactly did Dr. Dino destroy evolution?

Was it this statement in his PhD thesis?

"I believe that dinosaurs are not only in the Bible, but the have lived with man all through his six thousand year history."

Disregarding the poor grammar, do you agree with that?
 

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Many have accused me of unchristian behavior, and offending fellow Christians (YECs) with my comments. Why point out flaws and degrade other Christians' beliefs?



And rightly so.
 
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Did you read the conclusion of the article I linked to, which is:

"There is a growing rift between YECs and the rest of Christianity, and the only way to save the church today, and make it more relevant to society, is to cut off the YEC branch. Every once in a while, a little pruning is necessary for the health of a tree. Remember a fellow named Galileo? In the early 1600’s, he believed the earth revolved around the sun (heliocentrism), and challenged the long-held belief that the earth was the center of the universe. The church relentlessly attacked him for it. It took many years, but eventually, the church came to realize he was right. This will eventually happen with young earth creationism. The church will one day catch up with modern science, and YEC will become a thing of the past. My hope is that I can speed up this process."

Now that makes a whole lot of sense, doesn't it?

 
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Who cares...the fact that such a silly man could make a case that destroys evolution is a sign of how silly evolution is...
So you think that Dr. Dino's son nailed it on evolution too?

This article entitled "Creationist: If evolution is true, then it wasn't wrong for Josh Duggar to molest his sister" might interest you:

Creationist: If evolution is true, then it wasn’t wrong for Josh Duggar to molest his sisters

Dino Jr. says in the article:

“If evolution is true, then there is no absolute right and wrong,” Hovind said. “If evolution is true Josh should not have admitted his faults over a decade ago because what one evolved bag of molecules does to another bag of molecules just doesn’t really matter. If evolution is true there is no ultimate Judge on the bench who will hold every man, woman, and child responsible for their actions. And if evolution is true you will not give an account for every idle word you speak.”

That is the same sort of YEC anti-evolution mentality that has been apparent in this thread on the part of some.
 
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So you think that Dr. Dino's son nailed it on evolution too?

This article entitled "Creationist: If evolution is true, then it wasn't wrong for Josh Duggar to molest his sister" might interest you:

Creationist: If evolution is true, then it wasn’t wrong for Josh Duggar to molest his sisters

Dino Jr. says in the article:

“If evolution is true, then there is no absolute right and wrong,” Hovind said. “If evolution is true Josh should not have admitted his faults over a decade ago because what one evolved bag of molecules does to another bag of molecules just doesn’t really matter. If evolution is true there is no ultimate Judge on the bench who will hold every man, woman, and child responsible for their actions. And if evolution is true you will not give an account for every idle word you speak.”

That is the same sort of YEC anti-evolution mentality that has been apparent in this thread on the part of some.
I don't agree with all they say...but its clear they have made points that make evolution seem the fairy tale that it is... "nothing blew up and made everything" ...do you believe that?
 
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There are many silly people who want their ears tickled with silly stories like Evolution. What proof is their for Evolution? There is no proof, just speculation of what might have happened.

All they can do is make up silly stories trying to disprove the existence of God so they can sin all they want without any fear from God.

I would not worry about these people for they have already been judged by God and He is allowing them to follow silly stories. Its a shame but when these people die they will know the Truth but then it will be too late. They will not be allowed to enter into Heaven. The Lake of Fire is where they will spend Eternity.
 
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Did you read the conclusion of the article I linked to, which is:

"There is a growing rift between YECs and the rest of Christianity, and the only way to save the church today, and make it more relevant to society, is to cut off the YEC branch. Every once in a while, a little pruning is necessary for the health of a tree. Remember a fellow named Galileo? In the early 1600’s, he believed the earth revolved around the sun (heliocentrism), and challenged the long-held belief that the earth was the center of the universe. The church relentlessly attacked him for it. It took many years, but eventually, the church came to realize he was right. This will eventually happen with young earth creationism. The church will one day catch up with modern science, and YEC will become a thing of the past. My hope is that I can speed up this process."

Now that makes a whole lot of sense, doesn't it?

Sorry. That's moronic. First of all, your information about Galileo is incorrect. He was mostly challenged by the 'secular' community, not the church. And when he was challenged, it was more for his pompous attitude than anything else. Secondly, pruning biblically-sound beliefs from the Church would be detrimental, not helpful. But by all means, shoot yourself in the foot. It may be good for a laugh.
 

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There are many silly people who want their ears tickled with silly stories like Evolution. What proof is their for Evolution? There is no proof, just speculation of what might have happened.

All they can do is make up silly stories trying to disprove the existence of God so they can sin all they want without any fear from God.

I would not worry about these people for they have already been judged by God and He is allowing them to follow silly stories. Its a shame but when these people die they will know the Truth but then it will be too late. They will not be allowed to enter into Heaven. The Lake of Fire is where they will spend Eternity.
I'm not assuming your intention, but when I hear things like this, like "then they will know the truth when it's too late" it's almost like Christians who say this take pleasure in the thought of creations of God (as we all are creations of God, children of God probably different) perishing and suffering according to their beliefs/interpretations of the afterlife.

I'm sorry, but while I was able to do that when I was younger in faith, I can't bring myself to wish/look forward to someone being tormented for all eternity, simply because I don't agree with them, esp on something that's non-salvatic in doctrine. Aren't we supposed to pray for our enemies, and pray lovingly for brethren in error? I do not mean I've perfected this, but this just doesn't sound like someone who honestly loves other people, who are ALSO made in the image of God. Doesn't that alone demand a certain dread and objection to people who dying in their sins, rather than, what comes off as satisfaction? How does someone called to love their enemies get away thinking that taking satisfaction in anyone's destruction is something God looks favorably upon?
 
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I'm not assuming your intention, but when I hear things like this, like "then they will know the truth when it's too late" it's almost like Christians who say this take pleasure in the thought of creations of God (as we all are creations of God, children of God probably different) perishing and suffering according to their beliefs/interpretations of the afterlife.

I'm sorry, but while I was able to do that when I was younger in faith, I can't bring myself to wish/look forward to someone being tormented for all eternity, simply because I don't agree with them, esp on something that's non-salvatic in doctrine. Aren't we supposed to pray for our enemies, and pray lovingly for brethren in error? I do not mean I've perfected this, but this just doesn't sound like someone who honestly loves other people, who are ALSO made in the image of God. Doesn't that alone demand a certain dread and objection to people who dying in their sins, rather than, what comes off as satisfaction? How does someone called to love their enemies get away thinking that taking satisfaction in anyone's destruction is something God looks favorably upon?
You read a bundle into that post.
Satisfaction?
Unloving?
Looking forward to torment?

What are you looking for? A reward for the evo cult's defaming of God by mocking his testimony?
God's creation is his testimony. To mock it and Lampoon it by suggesting the space fairy of the evo cult dynamited a rock that was created with some evo magic wand is a slap in the face of the one that even bothered to give the evolutionist the bible that documented God's handiwork.
 
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I wonder what that place really is?, or even if that place exists for real?, there is no proof of such a place.

I can't bring myself to wish/look forward to someone being tormented for all eternity, in doctrine.
And that's all it is, a teaching, maybe even symbolic, or taught figuratively with no actual proof that any human being can be tormented eternally, i mean, seriously ..tormented forever?, how is that even possible? in what form (flesh?, spirit?) would that person be tormented forever?, no proof. It's just a biblical interpretation of a place that has no proof of existence.


Aren't we supposed to pray for our enemies, and pray lovingly for brethren in error?
Matthew 5:44
But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

2 Timothy 2:25
Gently instruct those who oppose the truth. Perhaps God will change those people's hearts, and they will learn the truth.


Luke 6:27
“But I say to you who hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,

taking satisfaction in anyone's destruction is something God looks favorably upon?
According to the Bible there is no partialty with God,

1 Timothy 2:3,4,5
This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
 
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What are you looking for? A reward for the evo cult's defaming of God by mocking his testimony?
God's creation is his testimony. To mock it and Lampoon it by suggesting the space fairy of the evo cult dynamited a rock that was created with some evo magic wand is a slap in the face of the one that even bothered to give the evolutionist the bible that documented God's handiwork.
You addressed this to jamie26301.

Show me one single post in this thread where somebody said that the earth was created by dynamiting a rock or some such thing.

Basically what we have here is some YECs saying that if you don't believe YEC pseudoscience you are going to the Lake of Fire.

Right?
 
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Sorry. That's moronic. First of all, your information about Galileo is incorrect. He was mostly challenged by the 'secular' community, not the church. And when he was challenged, it was more for his pompous attitude than anything else. Secondly, pruning biblically-sound beliefs from the Church would be detrimental, not helpful. But by all means, shoot yourself in the foot. It may be good for a laugh.
You really should lay off the rotten Ham from AIG.

What did the recantation statement that Galileo signed say and who made him sign it?

Have you been studying up on the modern YEC movement's ties to Seventh-Day Adventists so that you don't make any more erroneous statements about it?
 
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I don't agree with all they say...but its clear they have made points that make evolution seem the fairy tale that it is... "nothing blew up and made everything" ...do you believe that?
No, I don't believe that.

Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) has said repeatedly:

1. The earth is around 6,000 years old.

2. Dinosaurs coexisted with humans.

3. There was a global flood around 4,500 years ago.

Do you agree with that?
 
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No, I don't believe that.

Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) has said repeatedly:

1. The earth is around 6,000 years old.

2. Dinosaurs coexisted with humans.

3. There was a global flood around 4,500 years ago.

Do you agree with that?
The age of the earth, could be reckoned by honest bible believers beyond a literal 6 day creation...the truth is, i was not there, but know for sure the bible gives us the account of Gods creation....but its clear for the evolution nonsense to be sold to others, they need these great periods of time, to confuse folks from rational thought. Without the idea of billions and billions of years, the fairy tale could not be told..."a long long time ago"

And sure it seems clear that dinos would have been here with Adam and his seed.

and of course the global flood (some few thousand years ago) is a FACT...clear and evident fact!
 
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Genesis 1:5
[SUP]5 [/SUP] And God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.

Genesis 1:8
[SUP]8 [/SUP] And God called the expanse heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day.

Genesis 1:13
[SUP]13 [/SUP] And there was evening and there was morning, a third day.

Genesis 1:19
[SUP]19 [/SUP] And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day.

Genesis 1:23
[SUP]23 [/SUP] And there was evening and there was morning, a fifth day.

Genesis 1:31
[SUP]31 [/SUP] And God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.


The words used in the Old Testament for evening and morning were referring to a 24 hour day, not a day that was a 1000 years long like some people teach. Creation was done in 144 hours.
 

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can I ask whether you are all getting the invasive list of facebook gmail email and twitter on the right of your screen or is it just me?
 
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Creation was done in 144 hours.
And if you don't believe that creation was done in 144 hours you are going to the Lake of Fire?

That's what you said in your post #789 it would appear.

I assume popeye agrees since he "Liked" your post.