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Genesis 1:5
[SUP]5 [/SUP] And God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.

Genesis 1:8
[SUP]8 [/SUP] And God called the expanse heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day.

Genesis 1:13
[SUP]13 [/SUP] And there was evening and there was morning, a third day.

Genesis 1:19
[SUP]19 [/SUP] And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day.

Genesis 1:23
[SUP]23 [/SUP] And there was evening and there was morning, a fifth day.

Genesis 1:31
[SUP]31 [/SUP] And God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.


The words used in the Old Testament for evening and morning were referring to a 24 hour day, not a day that was a 1000 years long like some people teach. Creation was done in 144 hours.
why should evening and morning refer to a 24 hour day. show me anywhere else in Scripture where it does so. evening and morning are NOT night and day. they are dusk and dawn. That suggests a '12 hour' day.
 
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The age of the earth, could be reckoned by honest bible believers beyond a literal 6 day creation...the truth is, i was not there, but know for sure the bible gives us the account of Gods creation....but its clear for the evolution nonsense to be sold to others, they need these great periods of time, to confuse folks from rational thought. Without the idea of billions and billions of years, the fairy tale could not be told..."a long long time ago"

And sure it seems clear that dinos would have been here with Adam and his seed.

and of course the global flood (some few thousand years ago) is a FACT...clear and evident fact!
How do you define evolution?

Well which is it, a young earth or an old earth?

If you say young earth, what is your scientific evidence?

Or are you saying that just so you can dismiss evolution?

What is your evidence that dinosaurs were here with Adam and his seed?

Do you say there is scientific evidence of that? If so, what scientific evidence?

Why do you say a global flood some few thousand years ago is a FACT, a clear and evident fact?

Do you say there is scientific evidence of that? If so, what scientific evidence?
 
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popeye

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You addressed this to jamie26301.

Show me one single post in this thread where somebody said that the earth was created by dynamiting a rock or some such thing.

Basically what we have here is some YECs saying that if you don't believe YEC pseudoscience you are going to the Lake of Fire.

Right?
Right.I am actually going to go through this thread and look up some evo cult's reference to the non big bang with the non fuse and the non match to light the non dynamite's fuse.Of course w/o any oxygen which even exasperates anyone with a brain even more.
 
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popeye

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why should evening and morning refer to a 24 hour day. show me anywhere else in Scripture where it does so. evening and morning are NOT night and day. they are dusk and dawn. That suggests a '12 hour' day.
Only if you want it to read that way.

Insert "night" into the equasion and it will make sense
 
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popeye

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How do you define evolution?

Well which is it, a young earth or an old earth?

If you say young earth, what is your scientific evidence?

Or are you saying that just so you can dismiss evolution?

What is your evidence that dinosaurs were here with Adam and his seed?

Do you say there is scientific evidence of that? If so, what scientific evidence?

Why do you say a global flood some few thousand years ago is a FACT, a clear and evident fact?

Do you say there is scientific evidence of that? If so, what scientific evidence?
If you say evolution,where is your evidence.

HMMMMM,maybe someone with the correct credentials can help us huh?

Correct=someone from your list.
 
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Creation was done in 144 hours.
Ok, but do you think it wise to double check?, perhaps you already have?, there is, or it appears to me, that there are conflicting viewpoints on the Genesis creation time period. I just look at as much information as i can possibly understand and try to discern truth from that, not always easy for me though, ha ha.



This is one view and i'm sure there are many others?, i must admit i have not read all of it yet. What do you think, worth a look up?.

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Reading Genesis One

READING GENESIS ONE is a book about God's creation. This book is a powerful tool for resolving creation issues in Christian witness. Why? Because its readers can study and understand the first 35 Hebrew verses of theBible directly, for themselves. They can free themselves from dependence on asserted "expert" opinion.



Why this approach? Because many arguments about the Bible and its agreement or disagreementwith the historical physical record are flawed. They are flawed because the Bible does not say that which the disputing parties claim. This may be either the Bible critic or the Bible advocate. In some cases both are arguing positions which are not in agreement with the biblical text.



Based on the substantiated verb and word use, this book establishes and explains that:

1. Genesis One does not say that the Earth is "young," i.e., about 10,000 years old. This fact is established independent of any interpretation about the length of the six "days" of creation.



2. The translation chosen for the Hebrew word "yom" is shown to not determine the age of the Earth, or the age of the universe. It is also shown that the time between the first "And God said" of Genesis 1:3 and the completion stated in Genesis 2:1 is not limited to 144 hours. An interval of 144 hours (six 24-hour days) is not a required consequence of interpreting the creative "yom" as six 24-hour days. When this fact is understood, many of the often encountered arguments are found to be pointless exercises.




3. Genesis One and the established physical history of planet Earth are not in conflict. There remains a conflict with the interpretations of Darwinism.

4. READING GENESIS ONE explains and critiques the typical arguments by which advocates of the "Young Earth" position arrive at their conclusion.
 
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Rom 1;20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Wow,the whole gammet of sin and judgement seems to begin with a basic perversion of God's creation.

Change God's testimony of his creation and it becomes a package deal.
 
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Wow,the whole gammet of sin and judgement seems to begin with a basic perversion of God's creation.

Change God's testimony of his creation and it becomes a package deal.
Cool, but it doesn't state anything about the length of God's creative (dare i say it?) "days", haha.
 
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Ok, but do you think it wise to double check?, perhaps you already have?, there is, or it appears to me, that there are conflicting viewpoints on the Genesis creation time period. I just look at as much information as i can possibly understand and try to discern truth from that, not always easy for me though, ha ha.



This is one view and i'm sure there are many others?, i must admit i have not read all of it yet. What do you think, worth a look up?.

[SIZE=+1]NOW AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF DOWNLOAD[/SIZE]

Reading Genesis One

READING GENESIS ONE is a book about God's creation. This book is a powerful tool for resolving creation issues in Christian witness. Why? Because its readers can study and understand the first 35 Hebrew verses of theBible directly, for themselves. They can free themselves from dependence on asserted "expert" opinion.



Why this approach? Because many arguments about the Bible and its agreement or disagreementwith the historical physical record are flawed. They are flawed because the Bible does not say that which the disputing parties claim. This may be either the Bible critic or the Bible advocate. In some cases both are arguing positions which are not in agreement with the biblical text.



Based on the substantiated verb and word use, this book establishes and explains that:

1. Genesis One does not say that the Earth is "young," i.e., about 10,000 years old. This fact is established independent of any interpretation about the length of the six "days" of creation.



2. The translation chosen for the Hebrew word "yom" is shown to not determine the age of the Earth, or the age of the universe. It is also shown that the time between the first "And God said" of Genesis 1:3 and the completion stated in Genesis 2:1 is not limited to 144 hours. An interval of 144 hours (six 24-hour days) is not a required consequence of interpreting the creative "yom" as six 24-hour days. When this fact is understood, many of the often encountered arguments are found to be pointless exercises.




3. Genesis One and the established physical history of planet Earth are not in conflict. There remains a conflict with the interpretations of Darwinism.

4. READING GENESIS ONE explains and critiques the typical arguments by which advocates of the "Young Earth" position arrive at their conclusion.
The evo cult religion under no circumstances can possibly entertain any evidence that the earth is "young".

Old earth could possibly work for creationists in that there could be gaps,and we were not there,but any y.e. reference DESTROYS evo cult fantasy land,holds them accountable to God,and subsequently destroys whatever false peace they may glean by disenfranchising God to their peers,minoins,and little children in their churches/schools
 
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popeye

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Cool, but it doesn't state anything about the length of God's creative (dare i say it?) "days", haha.
Which side needs clarification?
 
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Mitspa

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How do you define evolution?

Well which is it, a young earth or an old earth?

If you say young earth, what is your scientific evidence?

Or are you saying that just so you can dismiss evolution?

What is your evidence that dinosaurs were here with Adam and his seed?

Do you say there is scientific evidence of that? If so, what scientific evidence?

Why do you say a global flood some few thousand years ago is a FACT, a clear and evident fact?

Do you say there is scientific evidence of that? If so, what scientific evidence?
Lot of questions that I have some thoughts on and lots of evidence to prove the silliness of evolution...but the fact is that I have a faith in God and His Word and its truth in the limits of mans understanding. I admit it takes faith beyond the logic of man to understand God as Creator, and how He did all the wonders of His creation. See I admit my faith, is not based on the wisdom of man...so I have no need to defend it based on mans wisdom...the issue is that evolution is just another religion, based on belief not real science... That's the point I am making here....evolution is not based on any provable physical law of science...its a religion and very silly one at that! "nothing blew up and made everything" is beyond stupidity!
 
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Basically what we have here is some YECs saying that if you don't believe YEC pseudoscience you are going to the Lake of Fire.Right?
Well, to some people that's not really a problem because just like the scaremonger teaching of a fiery hell place of ever lasting torment the lake is not a real body of water, haha.
 
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Right.I am actually going to go through this thread and look up some evo cult's reference to the non big bang with the non fuse and the non match to light the non dynamite's fuse.Of course w/o any oxygen which even exasperates anyone with a brain even more.
Hurry up.

I'm holding my breath waiting for you to find it.
 
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Originally Posted by JackH

Basically what we have here is some YECs saying that if you don't believe YEC pseudoscience you are going to the Lake of Fire.Right?

Well, to some people that's not really a problem because just like the scaremonger teaching of a fiery hell place of ever lasting torment the lake is not a real body of water, haha.
Rom 1;20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools
 
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Lot of questions that I have some thoughts on and lots of evidence to prove the silliness of evolution...but the fact is that I have a faith in God and His Word and its truth in the limits of mans understanding. I admit it takes faith beyond the logic of man to understand God as Creator, and how He did all the wonders of His creation. See I admit my faith, is not based on the wisdom of man...so I have no need to defend it based on mans wisdom...the issue is that evolution is just another religion, based on belief not real science... That's the point I am making here....evolution is not based on any provable physical law of science...its a religion and very silly one at that! "nothing blew up and made everything" is beyond stupidity!
Yawn.

You avoided my questions and went on your evolution is evil rant.

To reiterate:

1. What is your scientific evidence that the earth is around 6,000 years old?

2. What is your scientific evidence that dinosaurs coexisted with humans like you said?

3, What is your scientific evidence that a global flood occurred a few thousand years ago like you said?

I don't blame you for avoiding the question.

You have NO credible scientific evidence supporting your position.
 

valiant

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Only if you want it to read that way.

Insert "night" into the equasion and it will make sense
so you want to add to Scripture? It figures.

In Gen 1 DAY is defined. It EXCLUDES NIGHT.
 

valiant

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What is your scientific evidence that dinosaurs coexisted with humans like you said?
evidence on ancients cloths depicting dinosaurs.

Evidence on middle age buildings depicting dinosaurs.

the pictures are accurate representations made before men could possibly have known what they looked like unless they had seen them
 
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Mitspa

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Yawn.

You avoided my questions and went on your evolution is evil rant.

To reiterate:

1. What is your scientific evidence that the earth is around 6,000 years old?

2. What is your scientific evidence that dinosaurs coexisted with humans like you said?

3, What is your scientific evidence that a global flood occurred a few thousand years ago like you said?

I don't blame you for avoiding the question.

You have NO credible scientific evidence supporting your position.
No you just didn't like the answer...:)

Evolution is a religion that breaks every known physical law of science.....I have my religion that is based on faith in Gods Word and the Person of the Lord Jesus Christ.....don't have all the answers...don't need them :) Its called faith!

I love my faith, hope your happy with yours?