Is this bishop telling the truth about sun-day? Video less than 4 minutes.
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Luke 24:1-2
1[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.[/FONT]
[FONT="]2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
Which happens to be sunday. Which happens to be when all Christians worship. Coincidence? No.
Mark 16:1-2
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1[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.[/FONT]
[FONT="]2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
First day of the week. Sunday. [/FONT]
1[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.[/FONT]
[FONT="]2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
Which happens to be sunday. Which happens to be when all Christians worship. Coincidence? No.
Mark 16:1-2
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1[FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.[/FONT]
[FONT="]2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
First day of the week. Sunday. [/FONT]
But now that you know God — or rather are known by God — how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable forces? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again? You are observing special days and months and seasons and years!
I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you.
(Galatians 4:9-11)
I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you.
(Galatians 4:9-11)
the believers in Galatia -- they were falling prey to wolves trying to turn them into pagans, or trying to turn them into religious Jews?
Tell me, you who want to be under the law,
are you not aware of what the law says?
(Galatians 4:21)
are you not aware of what the law says?
(Galatians 4:21)
Paul's talking about some pagan law?
my, that's a new teaching to me!
i wonder if Paul thought back in those days that 2,000 years later, the 'concision' would still be trying to bite our heels! but as it's written, He will crush the serpent's head.
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It's unfortunate that your tone in this entire thread ( especially towards me) has been very dismissive and condescending. I did not post disrespectfully towards you. I've put a lot of thought into my posts. I think I've at least managed to provide some scriptural proof and historical context to support all my points. You have yet to present your exact timeline with scriptural support. The one verse you have posted repeatedly really gives no concrete support for any days. We all agree that his death and resurrection happened according to Scripture. It's pointless to keep quoting this verse since it tells us nothing of the time of death or resurrection. Secondly, the real burden of proof in this discussion actually rests on you and those who share your beliefs to refute the belief that Christ rose on Sunday. Scripture states in the gospels that Christ's first appearances after his resurrection were on Sunday morning. Now, the point was made earlier in this thread by a poster that perhaps Christ rose from the dead prior to this but didn't reveal himself till Sunday. That seems to be a stretch. It's possible. However, this is where you need to show us ( since it is far more probable if we read the gospel accounts at face value that he rose Sunday) some verses to indicate that he was risen already and waited till Sunday to appear. A good debate is the exchange of logical points or premises supported with some form of evidence.
I do find it ironic that you belittle and dismiss the very notion of consulting the Jewish method of reckoning of time and days when it does not suit your theological position, but quickly turn around and deride me for not being well versed in the intricacies of the feast of Passover. Why? I agree that an understanding of Jewish feasts and Sabbath practices is crucial to arriving at the proper timeline of Christ's death and resurrection but so is the Jewish system of recording time. I admit I'm not an expert on Passover. Truthfully, I did not know until tonight that Passover/ Feast of Unleavened Bread is 8 days long and starts and ends with 2 Sabbath days. So, I took your advice. I went and spent some time reading about the Sabbath days and rests of Passover. I've googled several sites. First I read strictly Jewish sites and then Christian ones. I came across this wonderful timeline that pieces together every day of the feast of Passover with the events of the Passion of Christ. The conclusion of the timeline is that Sunday is Resurrection Day.
THE PASSOVER FEAST and the WEEK OF CHRIST'S PASSION
i realize you aren't going to agree with this timeline, but hopefully you can at least concede that I do try to research what I believe.
I do find it ironic that you belittle and dismiss the very notion of consulting the Jewish method of reckoning of time and days when it does not suit your theological position, but quickly turn around and deride me for not being well versed in the intricacies of the feast of Passover. Why? I agree that an understanding of Jewish feasts and Sabbath practices is crucial to arriving at the proper timeline of Christ's death and resurrection but so is the Jewish system of recording time. I admit I'm not an expert on Passover. Truthfully, I did not know until tonight that Passover/ Feast of Unleavened Bread is 8 days long and starts and ends with 2 Sabbath days. So, I took your advice. I went and spent some time reading about the Sabbath days and rests of Passover. I've googled several sites. First I read strictly Jewish sites and then Christian ones. I came across this wonderful timeline that pieces together every day of the feast of Passover with the events of the Passion of Christ. The conclusion of the timeline is that Sunday is Resurrection Day.
THE PASSOVER FEAST and the WEEK OF CHRIST'S PASSION
i realize you aren't going to agree with this timeline, but hopefully you can at least concede that I do try to research what I believe.
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Whether a bishop is lying or telling the truth has no bearing on the hearts of men andhow and why each may hornor or ignore one day over another. Our Father knows the hearts of men.
Those who know Jesus Christ may be deceived for a time by others but never forev er, for nothing and no one is able to get through our Lord Jesus Christ to get to us. He is watchong over each one of us. Faith, always faith.
God bless allwho are in Jesus Christ......amen
Those who know Jesus Christ may be deceived for a time by others but never forev er, for nothing and no one is able to get through our Lord Jesus Christ to get to us. He is watchong over each one of us. Faith, always faith.
God bless allwho are in Jesus Christ......amen
Think about this.
Leviticus 23 calls the 7th day Sabbath a "holy convocation" (KJV).
convocation - called out assembly, public meeting, convoking...
If God wanted an "appointed time" to meet and fellowship with His children, would the adversary want to trick people into missing that appointment?
I am reminded of the old saying, "a day late and a dollar short".
Leviticus 23 calls the 7th day Sabbath a "holy convocation" (KJV).
convocation - called out assembly, public meeting, convoking...
If God wanted an "appointed time" to meet and fellowship with His children, would the adversary want to trick people into missing that appointment?
I am reminded of the old saying, "a day late and a dollar short".