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JaumeJ

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No one in his right mind who knows Jesus, Yeshua, is going to teach against obeying the Ten Commandments. This is anti-Christ in nature.

Anyone who knows the Lord and lives in the Grace He suffered and died to impart to each of us would never disobey His commandments.

Now come back and talk about the ceremonial law, ignoring this truth. If you continue, you do not know our Savior. Teaching disobedience is of the enemy.
 
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No one in his right mind who knows Jesus, Yeshua, is going to teach against obeying the Ten Commandments. This is anti-Christ in nature.

Anyone who knows the Lord and lives in the Grace He suffered and died to impart to each of us would never disobey His commandments.

Now come back and talk about the ceremonial law, ignoring this truth. If you continue, you do not know our Savior. Teaching disobedience is of the enemy.
I don't know what you mean by "teaching against" the 10 commandments. Without referencing what it was that I said, I can not respond. If you wish for me to respond to something I said, please post what I said and why you feel it is in error. I will be happy to respond.
 

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This is not going to turn into some kind of verbal jousting match. Perhaps a reread will give you understanding. If you still do not understand what the words are saying, I cannot be more specific.

I don't know what you mean by "teaching against" the 10 commandments. Without referencing what it was that I said, I can not respond. If you wish for me to respond to something I said, please post what I said and why you feel it is in error. I will be happy to respond.
 

JaumeJ

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As for my post, it is directed at readers in general who believe Yeshua, there was not thought of an individual in mind, sorry, I forgot to include this.
 
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John 13:34 a new commandment I give you: love one another. as I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 by this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. if you aren't doing this the rest won't matter. you will have missed the mark. why is this so hard for everybody?
 
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John 13:34 a new commandment I give you: love one another. as I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 by this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. if you aren't doing this the rest won't matter. you will have missed the mark. why is this so hard for everybody?
Well said. I don't know if you knew this, but this was a commandment given long before Jesus was born in Bethlehem.
Leviticus 19:15-18 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

The key was that Jesus is the example of love we are to follow. With that said we know according to Colossians 1:15-19 that Jesus created all things. One has to consider that the plan of salvation was intact before the foundation of the world. Who delivered the commandments to Moses? Food for thought, just sayin'.
Colossians 1:15-19 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
 

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No one in his right mind who knows Jesus, Yeshua, is going to teach against obeying the Ten Commandments. This is anti-Christ in nature.

Anyone who knows the Lord and lives in the Grace He suffered and died to impart to each of us would never disobey His commandments.

Now come back and talk about the ceremonial law, ignoring this truth. If you continue, you do not know our Savior. Teaching disobedience is of the enemy.

One of the biggest strawman ever erected!

Who is teaching against obeying the 10 commandments!!

You have never lied?
You have never stolen anything, no matter how small?
You have never either had sex outside of marriage or lusted in your heart?

I could go on but you get the point. You will NEVER be saved by trying to obey the law. Of course we should strive to keep ALL the law. No one is saying different! Thankfully when we stumble in sin the blood of Jesus Christ continually cleanses us. Praise Jesus!!
 

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No one in his right mind who knows Jesus, Yeshua, is going to teach against obeying the Ten Commandments. This is anti-Christ in nature.

Anyone who knows the Lord and lives in the Grace He suffered and died to impart to each of us would never disobey His commandments.

Now come back and talk about the ceremonial law, ignoring this truth. If you continue, you do not know our Savior. Teaching disobedience is of the enemy.
I wonder if knowing the gospel and being saved by Jesus and then going back to the shadow and the type to follow that in your flesh is actually anti-christ. Falling from grace...

If the Law has brought you to Christ then you know first hand that you weren't able to keep them in your flesh. If the Law has brought you to Christ then you know that only by abiding in Him is the Law kept. If you turn away from Him to follow after the flesh, obviously that is anti-christ.

I don't think that people who are trying to follow the Law in their flesh are anti-christ. I just think they haven't come to Christ yet. The Law hasn't been their tutor. They stopped or didn't learn from it.

No fruit is being grown by your flesh. No law is being kept by your flesh. No flesh shall glory before the Lord.
The fruit is being grown by the Lord. The Lord is the end of the Law for our righteousness. He is it. He is our all in all.
There is nothing more Holy or more Righteous than the fruit of the Spirit that the Lord grows in our Lives. If you've been to Christ you know this. Or you should. Who has bewitched you...

1 Corinthians 1:27-31
[SUP]27 [/SUP]But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
[SUP]29 [/SUP]That no flesh should glory in his presence.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
[SUP]31 [/SUP]That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

WooHoooo.... Hallelujah! Thank you for saving me Lord!

I don't think this is just a case of the weak brother and the strong brother. There seems to be more of a stubborn unwillingness to come to Him. That's what it seems to me. The gospel is pretty simple and straight forward. It's all laid out for us.

There is the ministry of condemnation.
And there is the Love of Jesus Christ, in whom is no condemnation.

There is no love in teaching people who have come to Christ to go back to condemnation.
 

JaumeJ

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That all sounds good, but it is just verbosity, noise. What is posted is simple truth, and it is posted for all to meditate upon. If you feel you are being personally accused, that would fall under the heading of somethng you need to work out.

This thread is about obeying the commandments, so what is wrong with the content of my post? Do you find it offensive? It is not intended to offend, rather to clarify. Do you want a fight? Is that it? I sure do not.

Frankly, what you have posted has no bearing on the content of my post.


One of the biggest strawman ever erected!

Who is teaching against obeying the 10 commandments!!

You have never lied?
You have never stolen anything, no matter how small?
You have never either had sex outside of marriage or lusted in your heart?

I could go on but you get the point. You will NEVER be saved by trying to obey the law. Of course we should strive to keep ALL the law. No one is saying different! Thankfully when we stumble in sin the blood of Jesus Christ continually cleanses us. Praise Jesus!!
 

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I asked that no one come back with the ceremonial law.

You will have myriads of people agreeing with you, but I am afraid being lawless is almost akin to following the one who is called the lawless one.

If you wish to continue teaching or implying disobedience of all ten of the commandments, that is your right as a free human being, but it does not coincide with the Word. Yeshua asks if when He returns will He find faith, and He asks this for a very good reason.

Ìf your religion is to say grace replaces the Ten Commandments, that is your religion.

Do not tell people that the Ten are to be ignored because your religion tells you grace has rescinded thme. It is as simple as that.

Stop asking me and others if they have sinned, of course all have and are aware of it who have come to the foot of the cross of our Lord, Jesus, Yeshua.

You see splinters? Look in your eye.



I wonder if knowing the gospel and being saved by Jesus and then going back to the shadow and the type to follow that in your flesh is actually anti-christ. Falling from grace...

If the Law has brought you to Christ then you know first hand that you weren't able to keep them in your flesh. If the Law has brought you to Christ then you know that only by abiding in Him is the Law kept. If you turn away from Him to follow after the flesh, obviously that is anti-christ.

I don't think that people who are trying to follow the Law in their flesh are anti-christ. I just think they haven't come to Christ yet. The Law hasn't been their tutor. They stopped or didn't learn from it.

No fruit is being grown by your flesh. No law is being kept by your flesh. No flesh shall glory before the Lord.
The fruit is being grown by the Lord. The Lord is the end of the Law for our righteousness. He is it. He is our all in all.
There is nothing more Holy or more Righteous than the fruit of the Spirit that the Lord grows in our Lives. If you've been to Christ you know this. Or you should. Who has bewitched you...

1 Corinthians 1:27-31
[SUP]27 [/SUP]But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
[SUP]29 [/SUP]That no flesh should glory in his presence.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
[SUP]31 [/SUP]That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

WooHoooo.... Hallelujah! Thank you for saving me Lord!

I don't think this is just a case of the weak brother and the strong brother. There seems to be more of a stubborn unwillingness to come to Him. That's what it seems to me. The gospel is pretty simple and straight forward. It's all laid out for us.

There is the ministry of condemnation.
And there is the Love of Jesus Christ, in whom is no condemnation.

There is no love in teaching people who have come to Christ to go back to condemnation.
 

Grandpa

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I asked that no one come back with the ceremonial law.

You will have myriads of people agreeing with you, but I am afraid being lawless is almost akin to following the one who is called the lawless one.

If you wish to continue teaching or implying disobedience of all ten of the commandments, that is your right as a free human being, but it does not coincide with the Word. Yeshua asks if when He returns will He find faith, and He asks this for a very good reason.

Ìf your religion is to say grace replaces the Ten Commandments, that is your religion.

Do not tell people that the Ten are to be ignored because your religion tells you grace has rescinded thme. It is as simple as that.

Stop asking me and others if they have sinned, of course all have and are aware of it who have come to the foot of the cross of our Lord, Jesus, Yeshua.

You see splinters? Look you your eye.
Galatians 5:22-23
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

I wasn't speaking about the ceremonial law. I was speaking about THE LAW. The 10 commandments written on stone.


I don't have a religion. I was a sinner that picked up a bible and started reading it. I have never said that the Law is done away or replaced. You don't get it because you don't understand. There will only be one way for you to understand. You have to go to the Lord Jesus Christ and ask.
 

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Why do you think the pharisees were so upset with Jesus?

It was because He showed them and taught them that they were doing it wrong.

It wasn't about their flesh, the outside of the cup.

It is about the spirit, the inside of the cup.

Imagine how upset the pharisees were when they heard this -

Matthew 11:28-30
[SUP]28 [/SUP]Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
 

JaumeJ

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Your theological line is duely noted. Now allow others to worship Yeshua, as they understand Him. Following Him as my Example teaches me to obey the commandments.

Now UNDERSTAND this for once. Should I stumble, He will pick me up, this is grace. As for His Commandments, I will always reverence Him by doing my utmost to obey Him.

It does not matter how anyone reads it, you are teaching disobedience in including the Ten Commandments with the ceremonial laws, and if you do not know this, you are informed now. If you do know this, you are lawless.

You have implied my thinking is along the lines of the Pharisees, and I thank you for your candid assessment of my behavior; now you have the benefit of mine. Your constant whining about no one obeys the law has some truth to it because all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of Yahweh, but once we come to Yeshua, accepting the sacrifice and His Blood, our guilt is no longer imputed to us.

This is by no means excusing anyone of obedience, especially of the Ten Commandments. Stop trying to deceive others by calling them the Law, a commandment is not a suggestion.






d faith, and He asks this for a very good reason.

Ìf your religion is to say grace replaces the Ten Commandments, that is your religion.

Do not tell people that the Ten are to be ignored because your religion tells you grace has rescinded thme. It is as simple as that.

Stop asking me and others if they have sinned, of course all have and are aware of it who have come to the foot of the cross of our Lord, Jesus, Yeshua.

You see splinters? Look in your eye.
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I wonder if knowing the gospel and being saved by Jesus and then going back to the shadow and the type to follow that in your flesh is actually anti-christ. Falling from grace...

If the Law has brought you to Christ then you know first hand that you weren't able to keep them in your flesh. If the Law has brought you to Christ then you know that only by abiding in Him is the Law kept. If you turn away from Him to follow after the flesh, obviously that is anti-christ.

I don't think that people who are trying to follow the Law in their flesh are anti-christ. I just think they haven't come to Christ yet. The Law hasn't been their tutor. They stopped or didn't learn from it.

No fruit is being grown by your flesh. No law is being kept by your flesh. No flesh shall glory before the Lord.
The fruit is being grown by the Lord. The Lord is the end of the Law for our righteousness. He is it. He is our all in all.
There is nothing more Holy or more Righteous than the fruit of the Spirit that the Lord grows in our Lives. If you've been to Christ you know this. Or you should. Who has bewitched you...

1 Corinthians 1:27-31
[SUP]27 [/SUP]But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
[SUP]29 [/SUP]That no flesh should glory in his presence.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
[SUP]31 [/SUP]That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

WooHoooo.... Hallelujah! Thank you for saving me Lord!

I don't think this is just a case of the weak brother and the strong brother. There seems to be more of a stubborn unwillingness to come to Him. That's what it seems to me. The gospel is pretty simple and straight forward. It's all laid out for us.

There is the ministry of condemnation.
And there is the Love of Jesus Christ, in whom is no condemnation.

There is no love in teaching people who have come to Christ to go back to condemnation.
 
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Nice way to distort gods word. You want to destroy what God said himself. Why don't you look at what Paul said, he makes it quite clear. and unless you think paul contradicted Christ. You should believe and take to heart what he said.

Rom 8:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you . Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.(If you are saved at all) [SUP]

10 [/SUP]And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. (If Christ is in you, Your spirit is alive (born again) because of him, and what he did, if not, you are not saved)

[SUP]11 [/SUP]But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you. (Again, IF YOU ARE SAVED, The spirit of God will give life to your mortal bodies, through the spirit who dwells in you)


[SUP]23 [/SUP]Not only that, but we also who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body. [SUP]24 [/SUP]For we were saved in this hope, but hope that is seen is not hope; for why does one still hope for what he sees? [SUP]25 [/SUP]But if we hope for what we do not see, we eagerly wait for it with perseverance. (those born of God do not look at God for judgment, We look to god as our abba father, waiting with hope of our eternal life, With the HS as our witness that we are children of God. vs those who live in fear, because they are still under law!)

[SUP]15 [/SUP]For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.” [SUP]16 [/SUP]The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, [SUP]17 [/SUP]and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ,

For those who think we can lose salvation because we do not follow some law. Paul rejects this notion.. We have hope.. And no one can bring a charge against us!

[SUP]31 [/SUP]What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? [SUP]32 [/SUP]He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? [SUP]33 [/SUP]Who shall bring a charge against God’s elect? It is God who justifies. [SUP]34 [/SUP]Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. [SUP]35 [/SUP]Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? [SUP]36 [/SUP]As it is written:

“For Your sake we are killed all day long; We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.”[SUP][c][/SUP]


[SUP]37 [/SUP]Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. [SUP]38 [/SUP]For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, [SUP]39 [/SUP]nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Hold on to these things, and you will never fear again! This is what God wants us to think, to hope. and to guide us through all forms of tribulation, whether it be deserved or undeserved.
Listen to what eg says, and, add that Christ did not come to destroy the law but to become the carry-over, the fulfillment of the laws of Moses. Carry-over?

What does that word mean to you? If something is 'fulfilled,' then, what does it do to the thing that was fulfilled, which, in this case, IS the laws of Moses that were fulfilled with the coming of Jesus Christ to Earth, and, His testament of life for all who believe (eternal life :) ) after He died and roSE again .

The power of God raised His Son just like, after we die, we will be raised. His Spirit in us , it speaks to our spirit, Jesus showed us the The Way, for He was/is/will always be the way to the Father, to life after this Earth, forevermore with Him.

What were Jesus' words on that cross? Jesus, we are speaking of Jesus' who believed in His Father, who was being crucified, who was NOT faking it, He went through REAL HUMAN PAIN !! "Into Thy hands, Father, I commit My spirit." :) This is a complete ACT of faith on Jesus' part, right? Sure. Jesus gave up His life and God sacrificed Him, put that Lamb to slaughter !!! By FAITH, in His Father's will for Him, Jesus succumbed to His plan for His life.

There is NO mention of the laws of Moses, merely, the faith in His Father that Jesus had to have, and, good news, He had it ! :)

Now, did Jesus go around killing people, lying, and, dishonoring His mom and dad in His life? No !!! Jesus did not sin, so, OBVIOUSLY keeping the laws of Moses (the 10 commandments) were important to Jesus in His Earthly life, showing us The Way. Showing us the way Home. Getting it now, keeping the commandments is a given, IF you are led by the spirit of God, for you are His son and a son (Romans 8:14, eg mentioned a lot of good in Romans 8 but don't forget this verse :) ) will WANT to obey His Father. Keyword is 'want,' for even though we not want to sin, we still DO, even as Christians, just go read Paul's account of Himself, being wretched, 'not good, no, not one of us,' we ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. We all DO sin too (1 John 1:8) , so, don't say you don't . You do. And, you WILL sin tomorrow. BUT, you are covered by your heart's belief, from your having been born again, YOU are covered by the blood of Christ, all the sins you've done, are doing, will do, COVERED BY THE BLOOD OF CHRIST, by the blood of the sacrificial LAMB :)
 
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Galatians 5:22-23
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

I wasn't speaking about the ceremonial law. I was speaking about THE LAW. The 10 commandments written on stone.


I don't have a religion. I was a sinner that picked up a bible and started reading it. I have never said that the Law is done away or replaced. You don't get it because you don't understand. There will only be one way for you to understand. You have to go to the Lord Jesus Christ and ask.
Romans 3
The Righteousness of God Through Faith

21But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— 22the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.


nomos: that which is assigned, hence usage, law
Original Word: νόμος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: nomos
Phonetic Spelling: (nom'-os)
Short Definition: a law, the Mosaic Law
Definition: usage, custom, law; in NT: of law in general, plur: of divine laws; of a force or influence impelling to action; of the Mosaic law; meton: of the books which contain the law, the Pentateuch, the Old Testament scriptures in general.

3551 nómos – law. 3551 (nómos) is used of: a) the Law (Scripture), with emphasis on the first five books of Scripture; or b) any system of religious thinking (theology), especially when nomos occurs without the Greek definite article.

3551 /nómos ("law") then can refer to "the Law," or "law" as a general principle (or both simultaneously). The particular sense(s) of 3551 (nómos) is determined by the context.


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But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe.



This is The Word of the LORD
Amen
 

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If people are going to censor the language of others, tyranny has reared up its ugly head in the forum. Please, do not fault anyone for word selection. This is nothing more than how that person understands that which he is attempting to convey.
 

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Stop asking me and others if they have sinned, of course all have and are aware of it who have come to the foot of the cross of our Lord, Jesus, Yeshua.

You see splinters? Look in your eye.
There is life after the cross. You are allowed to look at that now. You are allowed to know Him and the atonement of His Blood.

You don't have to keep looking at sin. You can look to righteousness now.

Don't you know that He Loves You?

theological line... lol. You think someone can reason their way into the Liberty of Christ?

Have you ever noticed that sin causes us to punish our own selves? You can stop punishing yourself if you ask the Lord.

Just come before Him and know He is God and you are not, and ask.
 

JaumeJ

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It is doubtful you truly know what you are saying. Looking at my sin? Punishing myself? Were you to experience what has been given me the past four years alone, it is possible you would not have been able to bear with it in faith. My joy is complete in Yeshua, although my heart aches when I think of how He suffered, just for me. Because I love Him, my Father, I will always attempt to obey Him to the letter, knowing I do not have any guilt imputed against me.

Yes, your theological line. Try developing your Holy Spirit understanding, but you will have to ask in the name of Yeshua, Jesus for all understanding, it can never be seized by any creature. I will continue doing my utmost to please Yeshua, and I know He is with me, for the strength I have needed, not just the past few years, all of my life, has come from Him. All glory goes to Yeshua, Jesus, amen.


There is life after the cross. You are allowed to look at that now. You are allowed to know Him and the atonement of His Blood.

You don't have to keep looking at sin. You can look to righteousness now.

Don't you know that He Loves You?

theological line... lol. You think someone can reason their way into the Liberty of Christ?

Have you ever noticed that sin causes us to punish our own selves? You can stop punishing yourself if you ask the Lord.

Just come before Him and know He is God and you are not, and ask.
 

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John 13:34 a new commandment I give you: love one another. as I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 by this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. if you aren't doing this the rest won't matter. you will have missed the mark. why is this so hard for everybody?
Why is this?

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Mat 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Mat 19:19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

quoting this...

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

The word Law being....

H8451
תּרה תּורה
tôrâh tôrâh
to-raw', to-raw'
From H3384; a precept or statute, especially the Decalogue or Pentateuch: - law.