PATRIOTISM IS BIBLICAL, But Is It Dying In AMERICA?
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You do not want to do that in my presence or any other Veteran's presence. The Flag does not represent the Politics of the Present. It represents the Veterans of the Past, who served defending our Freedoms.
The American FLAG has three colors and stars, EVERY ONE THOSE COLORS AND STARS REPRESENTS VETERANS WHO HAVE SERVED.
RED STRIPES = THE BLOOD SHED BY VETERANS.
WHITE STRIPES = THE BANDAGES WORN BY WOUNDED VETERANS.
BLUE FIELD = THE FIELD OF HONOR WHERE VETERANS SERVED.
WHITE STARS = THE FIFTY STATES WHERE VETERANS COME FROM.
The PROBLEM AS I SEE IT, IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU STOPPED PRAYING FOR THIS COUNTRY.
NOT ONE THING ON THE FLAG REPRESENTS THE POLITICIANS YOU WANT TO HATE.
Don't forget one of YOUR FREEDOMS WE VETERANS PAID FOR,
IS YOUR FREEDOM TO LEAVE IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THIS COUNTRY.
The American FLAG has three colors and stars, EVERY ONE THOSE COLORS AND STARS REPRESENTS VETERANS WHO HAVE SERVED.
RED STRIPES = THE BLOOD SHED BY VETERANS.
WHITE STRIPES = THE BANDAGES WORN BY WOUNDED VETERANS.
BLUE FIELD = THE FIELD OF HONOR WHERE VETERANS SERVED.
WHITE STARS = THE FIFTY STATES WHERE VETERANS COME FROM.
The PROBLEM AS I SEE IT, IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU STOPPED PRAYING FOR THIS COUNTRY.
NOT ONE THING ON THE FLAG REPRESENTS THE POLITICIANS YOU WANT TO HATE.
Don't forget one of YOUR FREEDOMS WE VETERANS PAID FOR,
IS YOUR FREEDOM TO LEAVE IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THIS COUNTRY.
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no -- that's FOX talking inside your head again.
i don't watch them either.
get this -- i read Al Jazeera.
& Le Monde, Radio France, Xinhua, the Guardian, Pravda, Haaretz, the Israel Times, etc.
the AP and some other conglomerate new sites that collect headlines from all around the world.
i have this idea that all news from within America carries American bias. same with other countries -- lol you can't read Pravda for more than a couple minutes, or Xinhua, without discovering they have nationalist tendencies of their own. so i like to get the rest of the planet's take on what goes on here.
i do listen to NPR, when it comes to American news outlets. & i enjoy Democracy Now -- certainly 'leftist' in some sense, but very critical of the left too. NPR is hardly biased, IMHO. not in the same way that FOX or MSNBC is. and i read local new, locally, but i don't care for their reporting on global or national events -- they mostly just parrot the AP reports so why not go straight there.
but you're wrong, and it's not even "you" that's wrong -- it's the brainwashing of FOX that's wrong, and you've come under their influence.
what you've just said here, that i quoted, is equivalent to you ranting that
"what? you don't like coca cola! well i can tell you're a wicked pepsi drinker or rc cola or some other evil soda."
you're a victim of advertising. Sorry, to disappoint you, but advertising, seldom influences me. I detest ALL advertisements, bulk rate mail goes in the trash can unopened, grocery adds NEVER get looked, I don't do coupons because they are a hassle, but that is mostly because I am a retired mailman. I do not like to watch TV Adds, I go do something else or change the channel. I day dream through radio adds while driving. I do not even like carbonated beverages, but I love iced tea. SO NO, I am not the type that can be advertised into a Political Position.
I am pretty much influenced by what my father stood up for, and his Patriotism was a cut above the rest. He was a machine gunner in WWII, in the Ardennes and Rhineland Battles. While I was growing up he was always involved as a Community Volunteer, Church Volunteer, and he was always involved in the VFW and their Color Guard, and he even served several years as Post Commander.
I am pretty much influenced by what my father stood up for, and his Patriotism was a cut above the rest. He was a machine gunner in WWII, in the Ardennes and Rhineland Battles. While I was growing up he was always involved as a Community Volunteer, Church Volunteer, and he was always involved in the VFW and their Color Guard, and he even served several years as Post Commander.
well, you're wrong.
you believe what FOX self-advertised about itself to you: that they are "the most fair and balanced news source available" and that there are no other choices but MSNBC, ABC, CNN etc -- and that they are all "lamestream liberal and biased"
FOX is telling you they are the best and everyone else is terrible.
and you're lapping it up. it's largely subtextual, but it's advertising. it's propaganda, and you are a victim.
it's not surprising at all that you don't consciously know it -- that's exactly what i meant by you being a "victim" of it. "victims" of advertising don't realize they've been influenced: that's what advertising is all about, and FOX has you under it's thumb, right where they want you. passionately loyal, and thinking it was your own choice and your own opinion.
just stop and think for a second VCO -- you said you were "surprised" to learn that i consider them a propaganda mouthpiece and never watch them at all anymore.
why is that?
some voice in your head tells you "FOX is the news source of Christians" ?
that "anyone who doesn't watch FOX and FOX alone is a wicked leftist" ?
hmm.
why is that?
some voice in your head tells you "FOX is the news source of Christians" ?
that "anyone who doesn't watch FOX and FOX alone is a wicked leftist" ?
hmm.
someone mentioned several pages back that it's not really "patriotism" on display here, it's "nationalism" -- and i think that's accurate.
Germany was excessive in their nationalism ((calling it patriotism)) just before they elected an incredibly vain, racist, sexist, charismatic demagogue who promised to "make Germany great again."
i suppose you know what happened next.
but in America, we kept our patriotism and threw away our nationalism when we fought the war for independence. France did the same thing not long afterwards throwing off the shackles of the crown.
there's a very important difference in being "patriotic" and being "nationalist" -- and when you spend most of your time telling yourself that more than 50% of your fellow Americans "hate America" just because they are exercising American freedom to think on their own and have their own political opinions that don't happen to agree with yours, guess whether you're being "nationalistic" or whether you're being "patriotic" ?
Germany was excessive in their nationalism ((calling it patriotism)) just before they elected an incredibly vain, racist, sexist, charismatic demagogue who promised to "make Germany great again."
i suppose you know what happened next.
but in America, we kept our patriotism and threw away our nationalism when we fought the war for independence. France did the same thing not long afterwards throwing off the shackles of the crown.
there's a very important difference in being "patriotic" and being "nationalist" -- and when you spend most of your time telling yourself that more than 50% of your fellow Americans "hate America" just because they are exercising American freedom to think on their own and have their own political opinions that don't happen to agree with yours, guess whether you're being "nationalistic" or whether you're being "patriotic" ?
Its also our Freedom VCO to point out how you are promoting Nationalism, and not Patriotism.
Again, by waving the Flag makes is Nationalism.
You feel and believe the USA is better then other countries because you keep telling others who disagree with you that they can leave this country.
You do know VCO the red stripes on the Flag is the blood of innocent Native Americans MURDERED by the USA!!!
That is where the red stripes came from.
Again, by waving the Flag makes is Nationalism.
You feel and believe the USA is better then other countries because you keep telling others who disagree with you that they can leave this country.
You do know VCO the red stripes on the Flag is the blood of innocent Native Americans MURDERED by the USA!!!
That is where the red stripes came from.
There you go again VCO, proclaiming Nationalism.
Left wing??? How about the Right Wing! You know them well, these are the ones wanting to declare War on others just to have more Wealth and power.
What about George Bush lying about yellow cake just to get his hands on the Oil Wells????????? What EXCUSE do you have for this VCO???????
You have been deceived VCO. I feel so sorry for you.
Left wing??? How about the Right Wing! You know them well, these are the ones wanting to declare War on others just to have more Wealth and power.
What about George Bush lying about yellow cake just to get his hands on the Oil Wells????????? What EXCUSE do you have for this VCO???????
You have been deceived VCO. I feel so sorry for you.
Famous Patriots:
PAPPY BOYINGTON, Black Sheep Squadron Commander,
Congressional Medal of Honor, Sioux Warrior
PATRICK HENRY: Prior to The American
Revolution, his famous speech before Congress
ended with his Famous Quote: "I do not know
what course other men will take; but as for me,
"Give me liberty, or give me death!"
American Patriot,
FIRST CASUALTY
of the American Revolution
ALVIN YORK
WWI Medal of Honor, for leading an attack that is credited with
capturing 35 machine guns, killing 28 Germans, capturing 132 others.
AUDIE MUPHY
The most decorated combat soldier
of WWII.
NOW, YOU ALL TELL ME WHY YOU SHOULD NOT HONOR THESE MEN AND THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS BY PUTTING UP THE AMERICAN FLAG ON THE 4TH OF JULY
AT YOUR HOUSE, BEFORE YOU BARBEQUE?
PAPPY BOYINGTON, Black Sheep Squadron Commander,
Congressional Medal of Honor, Sioux Warrior
PATRICK HENRY: Prior to The American
Revolution, his famous speech before Congress
ended with his Famous Quote: "I do not know
what course other men will take; but as for me,
"Give me liberty, or give me death!"
American Patriot,
FIRST CASUALTY
of the American Revolution
ALVIN YORK
WWI Medal of Honor, for leading an attack that is credited with
capturing 35 machine guns, killing 28 Germans, capturing 132 others.
AUDIE MUPHY
The most decorated combat soldier
of WWII.
NOW, YOU ALL TELL ME WHY YOU SHOULD NOT HONOR THESE MEN AND THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS BY PUTTING UP THE AMERICAN FLAG ON THE 4TH OF JULY
AT YOUR HOUSE, BEFORE YOU BARBEQUE?
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Why should we honor a country which see's nothing wrong with murdering people for wealth and power? How can you VCO honor a country that murders others just for wealth and power?
So no, i will not be flying the flag. Instead i will honor all those who lives were taken away from them just for you to own a small piece of land.
So no, i will not be flying the flag. Instead i will honor all those who lives were taken away from them just for you to own a small piece of land.
My wife's father was one quarter Choctaw, and I had a great Uncle who married to a Sioux. I know that is not much, but it is enough, to give me a passionate heart for Native Amercans. It wouldn't surprise me if I knew WAY MORE about Native American History than you do; at least I realize that I know WAY MORE THAN THE AVERAGE AMERICAN. I certainly know more about the evil decisions George Armstrong Custer, than you do. I read three biographies about him to make one book report in High School, and I DID NOT REPORT HIM TO BE A HERO, BUT RATHER A VILLAIN. A Congressman came to Ft. Robinson and told him, "I can guarantee you the Presidency if you win one more big Indian battle." A few days later he attacked that village of elderly, and women and children. I got a C on that book report with NO RED MARKS ON THE PAPER INDICATING MY MISTAKES. When I asked her WHY THE C, she said, "Because I thought you were entirely too critical of a National Hero." Yes, I have toured the Little Big Horn Battlefield, and cried for the Native Americans who fell there. HOWEVER, I have also toured Massacre Canyon in Nebraska, where you most likely have never been.
That is where a War Party of approximately 1000 Sioux attacked a Hunting Party of 700 Pawnee men, women, and children, by surprise. That was Aug 5th, 1873, and 71 Pawnee men were killed and 102 of their women and children. But you do not want to count the wars between the Tribes or the amount of blood shed, with no white man involved. WHY? The Battle of the Little Big Horn took place less than 3 years later.
I grew up poor, the son of a share cropper, often looked down upon, because we did not have much money. And when we moved to town, I was told to my face in the sixth grade, "You are from the wrong side of the tracks." Now when I am old and proud of my Service to this Country, you and others start kicking me around too, like you still think I am trash, just because I am proud to keep my Flag Flying to honor all the Veterans who have ever served. Should I now grow bitter and hate you all, like the grudge you apparently are addicted to? NO, that would not please my LORD, plus I am used to it.
Many, many Native Americans got over it and forgave the wrongs of the past, but NOT YOU. WHY does it still fester? Many of them proudly Served our Country. But you cannot follow in their honorable footsteps? NOT even counting the NUMEROUS lesser medals awarded to Native Americans, 28 of those Native Americans were awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor. But isn't your attitude symbolically spitting on those medals of great honor? Are you not making a yardstick by which God will measure your mistakes?
Colossians 3:12-13 (RSV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Put on then, as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassion, kindness, lowliness, meekness, and patience,
[SUP]13 [/SUP] forbearing one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive.
Matthew 7:1-2 (NRSV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]"Do not judge, so that you may not be judged.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] For with the judgment you make you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get.
YOU NEED TO WATCH THIS NATIVE AMERICAN VIDEO. It is 15 minutes long, but start at 9:50 because shortly after that point on, he is talking about the NEED TO FORGIVE EVERYONE FOR THE HURT OF THE PAST:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuIWp_TV5bs
You also seriously need to make yourself a Native American Flute and I mean MAKE IT, DO NOT JUST BUY ONE. I have made several. You then need to journey to the Mountains to meditate as you play that flute. Do not come down until you can leave ALL of your bitterness and anger there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7Ek42riJ2Q
That is where a War Party of approximately 1000 Sioux attacked a Hunting Party of 700 Pawnee men, women, and children, by surprise. That was Aug 5th, 1873, and 71 Pawnee men were killed and 102 of their women and children. But you do not want to count the wars between the Tribes or the amount of blood shed, with no white man involved. WHY? The Battle of the Little Big Horn took place less than 3 years later.
I grew up poor, the son of a share cropper, often looked down upon, because we did not have much money. And when we moved to town, I was told to my face in the sixth grade, "You are from the wrong side of the tracks." Now when I am old and proud of my Service to this Country, you and others start kicking me around too, like you still think I am trash, just because I am proud to keep my Flag Flying to honor all the Veterans who have ever served. Should I now grow bitter and hate you all, like the grudge you apparently are addicted to? NO, that would not please my LORD, plus I am used to it.
Many, many Native Americans got over it and forgave the wrongs of the past, but NOT YOU. WHY does it still fester? Many of them proudly Served our Country. But you cannot follow in their honorable footsteps? NOT even counting the NUMEROUS lesser medals awarded to Native Americans, 28 of those Native Americans were awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor. But isn't your attitude symbolically spitting on those medals of great honor? Are you not making a yardstick by which God will measure your mistakes?
Colossians 3:12-13 (RSV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Put on then, as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassion, kindness, lowliness, meekness, and patience,
[SUP]13 [/SUP] forbearing one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive.
Matthew 7:1-2 (NRSV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]"Do not judge, so that you may not be judged.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] For with the judgment you make you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get.
YOU NEED TO WATCH THIS NATIVE AMERICAN VIDEO. It is 15 minutes long, but start at 9:50 because shortly after that point on, he is talking about the NEED TO FORGIVE EVERYONE FOR THE HURT OF THE PAST:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuIWp_TV5bs
You also seriously need to make yourself a Native American Flute and I mean MAKE IT, DO NOT JUST BUY ONE. I have made several. You then need to journey to the Mountains to meditate as you play that flute. Do not come down until you can leave ALL of your bitterness and anger there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7Ek42riJ2Q
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