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Titus 2:13
Exhortation for women to "teach what is good " not exclusively to only women
Acts 18:26
Priscilla (a woman) and Aquila ... took him aside (Apollo) and explained the way of God more accurately
1Corinthians 3:9
Euodia and Syntyche (both women) labored with me ... fellow workers
Romans 16:7
Junia of note among the apostles
Women prophets
Miriam, Huldah, Anna, Deborah
Acts 2:18
I will pour out My Spirit ...men and women alike
The unfortunate thing about typing on this is there are men on here that believe women are supposed to be at their feet and not their side, as Co workers in the faith
Exhortation for women to "teach what is good " not exclusively to only women
Acts 18:26
Priscilla (a woman) and Aquila ... took him aside (Apollo) and explained the way of God more accurately
1Corinthians 3:9
Euodia and Syntyche (both women) labored with me ... fellow workers
Romans 16:7
Junia of note among the apostles
Women prophets
Miriam, Huldah, Anna, Deborah
Acts 2:18
I will pour out My Spirit ...men and women alike
The unfortunate thing about typing on this is there are men on here that believe women are supposed to be at their feet and not their side, as Co workers in the faith
Stephen i saw what you were doing from the get go.
I personally didnt care fo the angle from the start back
in another thread.
Being a jerk is simply that. Disrespect, borderline slander etc.
But in case you didnt notice it was done to both male and female
alike and seemed childish to bring up the man thing is all. I see
the point you were making. But i really thought it was not covering
the woman who were also involved in the same situation.
My opinion is that the real subject should be how do we act when
discussing theology. See to some im lukewarm because i dont believe
in burning heretics at the stake. Actually i dont really approve of using the
word. I dont like false teaching, but im not willing to slug it out. And if
i ever get rude its not because i believe im allowed to that i should.
So the issue with me is how far do we go with standing for the truth?
Of coarse i understand not everyones truth is true...but my point is
behaviour. As i see we all have our own ideas on that. Some draw the line
at cutting and quartering them. Some drop it when it gets past polite.
So if anyone has that figured out maybe they can share.
My view is that we treat everyone better than ourselves. And that
we are not to strive. But again i may just be lukewarm
I personally didnt care fo the angle from the start back
in another thread.
Being a jerk is simply that. Disrespect, borderline slander etc.
But in case you didnt notice it was done to both male and female
alike and seemed childish to bring up the man thing is all. I see
the point you were making. But i really thought it was not covering
the woman who were also involved in the same situation.
My opinion is that the real subject should be how do we act when
discussing theology. See to some im lukewarm because i dont believe
in burning heretics at the stake. Actually i dont really approve of using the
word. I dont like false teaching, but im not willing to slug it out. And if
i ever get rude its not because i believe im allowed to that i should.
So the issue with me is how far do we go with standing for the truth?
Of coarse i understand not everyones truth is true...but my point is
behaviour. As i see we all have our own ideas on that. Some draw the line
at cutting and quartering them. Some drop it when it gets past polite.
So if anyone has that figured out maybe they can share.
My view is that we treat everyone better than ourselves. And that
we are not to strive. But again i may just be lukewarm
Deuteronomy 19:15 [SUP]15 [/SUP]"A single witness shall not rise up against a man on account of any iniquity or any sin which he has committed; on the evidence of two or three witnesses a matter shall be confirmed.
Matthew 18:16[SUP]16[/SUP] "But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every fact may be confirmed .
2 Corinthians 13:1[SUP]1[/SUP] This is the third time I am coming to you. Every fact is to be confirmed by the testimony of two or three witnesses.
1 Timothy 5:19[SUP]19[/SUP] Do not receive an accusation against an elder except on the basis of two or three witnesses.
One person's accusation will hold no water. As a matter fact, one lone person making any accusation is often looked upon as a guilty party themselves, as you have said something already similar. There are other witnesses, but trying to get a Christian to speak up for what is right like pulling cow teeth. If the amount of witnesses increase, the chances are better to at least get two or three. So, with the issue out in the open, folks can see for themselves who I am talking about, knowing them by their fruits. It may not get anything accomplished as far as disciplinary action, but the majority will have open eyes to see for themselves. Some think I'm just causing trouble...... others will see that I am simply opening the eyes of the blind. Once they see, they will also see the damage resulting from this. This is what I want. I'm not trying to make an accusation....... I'm simply increasing the number of people who will see the truth, and letting them decide on their own what they think should be done.
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Oh, ok
Guess since your post was under mine, I got the impression you were speaking to me
Guess since your post was under mine, I got the impression you were speaking to me
I hear alot in the threads that men make judgements in scripture interpretation
based on a depraved attitude towards woman. You said some men in here want woman
under their feet. Ive been told that a few times as a response to how i view scripture
yet its not my attitude at all, nor any man i know. That was my point on that.
Already in this thread some woman sort of attacked me on this, and i wasnt even
talking in this thread about that topic. It was assumed....as i said this is a growing
attitude woman are being led into. Yet i dont personally know any man that wants
woman under foot.
hopefully we get this narrowed down a little.
not quite understanding the issue.
it might be a good idea to possibly cast a wider net on this mockery issue....such as what do "certain people"(we could keep it vague and suggestive but not specific) who believe "certain" things....and teach them to others...which are actually a mockery of the Holy Spirit.
i wonder which issue is the most important?
i wonder which one i actually care about more.
but anyways.
not quite grasping the OP i guess
still reading.
not quite understanding the issue.
it might be a good idea to possibly cast a wider net on this mockery issue....such as what do "certain people"(we could keep it vague and suggestive but not specific) who believe "certain" things....and teach them to others...which are actually a mockery of the Holy Spirit.
i wonder which issue is the most important?
i wonder which one i actually care about more.
but anyways.
not quite grasping the OP i guess
still reading.
does being correct on scripture have anything to do with it Stephen?
at all?
because this is really about Pentecostalism and those who reject it - on Biblical ground.
isn't it.
that's what this is about.
dressed up as something else.
a valiant effort, but transparent, really.
unless of course i didn't read between the lines clearly enough
at all?
because this is really about Pentecostalism and those who reject it - on Biblical ground.
isn't it.
that's what this is about.
dressed up as something else.
a valiant effort, but transparent, really.
unless of course i didn't read between the lines clearly enough
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Unfortunately I have witnessed this in the church, I have seen "Christian " men treat their women like slaves, downgrading them and completely damaging their spirit, it's sick, but I did not say this to point to any single person on this thread, I meant it in a general manner of speaking, maybe I should have clarified that, my apologies if anyone took it otherwise
I just did a search on my own threads for this and cannot find it. But when I searched the postings in those threads, I found the subject of banning in this one:
How many heretics have you converted?
I also found this in it:
I'm glad you accused me. It made me look back and find this. Without you, this may not have happened. Thank you.
Because that thread was opened, others were able to bless her and change her mind. Just one is worth at all. Maybe something like that could happen on this one as well.
How many heretics have you converted?
I also found this in it:
I'm glad you accused me. It made me look back and find this. Without you, this may not have happened. Thank you.
Because that thread was opened, others were able to bless her and change her mind. Just one is worth at all. Maybe something like that could happen on this one as well.
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Yes but i think its a sin thing not a wrong theology issue. Alot of wonderful marriages have proven that.
Most of the time that stuff happens in the dark. Many churches see the need and try to involved men
in mens groups so men can be taught what causes abuse and such. Most men dont want to be that way
but simply find themselves without the tools and knowledge. Some are just plain blind. They do their best
but havnt a clue what their doing if they didnt have it in their upbringing. Woman have issues also but quite different.
Id say sick is an ok word. God used the word sick in Isaiah. Its definantly an issue no church should avoid.
Most of the time that stuff happens in the dark. Many churches see the need and try to involved men
in mens groups so men can be taught what causes abuse and such. Most men dont want to be that way
but simply find themselves without the tools and knowledge. Some are just plain blind. They do their best
but havnt a clue what their doing if they didnt have it in their upbringing. Woman have issues also but quite different.
Id say sick is an ok word. God used the word sick in Isaiah. Its definantly an issue no church should avoid.
does being correct on scripture have anything to do with it Stephen?
at all?
because this is really about Pentecostalism and those who reject it - on Biblical ground.
isn't it.
that's what this is about.
dressed up as something else.
a valiant effort, but transparent, really.
unless of course i didn't read between the lines clearly enough
at all?
because this is really about Pentecostalism and those who reject it - on Biblical ground.
isn't it.
that's what this is about.
dressed up as something else.
a valiant effort, but transparent, really.
unless of course i didn't read between the lines clearly enough