What 3 verses say that a lost man cannot believe the gospel?

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Pilgrimshope

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We all agree that man is inherently sinful and that he cannot redeem himself by any work.
We can all quote verses about the sinfulness of man.

I'm interested in the BEST verses you have that SAY [NOT JUST "IMPLY"] that a lost man cannot believe the gospel.

If you had to choose, say, the 3 clearest and most relevant verses to answer the question, what would they be?

Please, please, give the BEST and only 3.

Thanks.
( borrowed this post with permission)
Aren’t we all lost until we are saved by hearing and then believing the gospel ?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Not a gardener then.
Seed is not dead if it grows.
Nope but it must be buried before it comes to life.
A seed in your hand is dead. It must be given water and nutrients to Come to life
Just like God must give us spiritual water and nutrients to grow our faith. It does not happen overnight. It starts small. Then can grow to an enormous thing as we mature
 
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How do you obey the gospel through faith?..then you are saved.....can you explain how that works?
We obey the gospel when we by faith obey the gospel (whoever believes has)

We are justified (saved) By grace through faith
 
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Do you remember the account Jesus gives as the example of the cross and what he would do for all in like manner ? John 13,14,15,16
They had to obey and look and live.
that's why Paul says
But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
John 6.17 . Thats why the whole book of John is about ' believe '
I think if the serpent Moses raised as an example of Jesus being lifted up

People had to look up to be saved. This took faith. If they lacked faith and did not look up they died
 
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Truly, truly, I tell you, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground
and dies, it remains only a seed; but if it dies, it bears much fruit.
Amen thank you sis
 
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Nope but it must be buried before it comes to life.
A seed in your hand is dead. It must be given water and nutrients to Come to life
Just like God must give us spiritual water and nutrients to grow our faith. It does not happen overnight. It starts small. Then can grow to an enormous thing as we mature

Bro,a seed doesn’t need to be buried to grow,some seeds need light to germinate.
 
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lenna

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But so few believe the word of God in practice (AKA Faith that works)

sad. in fact more than sad

while you pat yourself on the back and admire your supposed superior knowledge, people everywhere have put their faith in God and trust in Christ for their salvation

thankfully, God sees our hearts with no need of input from you

thanks for reminding me why I had you on ignore where you belong. you call yourself nobody, but a little false humility does not disguise what you really think
 
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Nope but it must be buried before it comes to life.
A seed in your hand is dead. It must be given water and nutrients to Come to life
Just like God must give us spiritual water and nutrients to grow our faith. It does not happen overnight. It starts small. Then can grow to an enormous thing as we mature
Not a gardener.
Does not understand seeds.
Seeds have life in them, but not all seed, that life only lasts so long without been planted watered and dying to being a seed and living to becoming the plant that produces seed. (unless you got your seeds from Monsanto)
Some of the seeds in your hand have life and will sprout given water, other seeds in your hand are in fact dead and no amount of water will help.
 
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It still needs fed it is dead until it is fed. But thank you
Dead things do not eat.
You could put the good stuff right in front of them and cut it up in nice bite sided pieces but still they do not eat it because they are dead.
 
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sad. in fact more than sad

while you pat yourself on the back and admire your supposed superior knowledge, people everywhere have put their faith in God and trust in Christ for their salvation

thankfully, God sees our hearts with no need of input from you

thanks for reminding me why I had you on ignore where you belong. you call yourself nobody, but a little false humility does not disguise what you really think
Those who live it celebrate in it and those who do not, do not.
Feel free to ignore it and me if you like.
 
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Bro,a seed doesn’t need to be buried to grow,some seeds need light to germinate.
Really?
What seeds are those?
Would like to get some and try them out.

I know they all need light to warm the ground in order to germinate but direct light.
I know some need to be frozen first, some need there hard shells cut and scratched in order to germinate
 
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Really?
What seeds are those?
Would like to get some and try them out.

I know they all need light to warm the ground in order to germinate but direct light.
I know some need to be frozen first, some need there hard shells cut and scratched in order to germinate

If you go online there are many,lettuce is one,but they need the right conditions,but they aren’t buried..my son grew lettuce just by sprinkling on the ground,obviously they need watering.
 

Pilgrimshope

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We obey the gospel when we by faith obey the gospel (whoever believes has)

We are justified (saved) By grace through faith
Do you have to believe the word of God about salvation though ? Meaning what he actually said would save us ?

or should we just use the one verse saved by grace and then omit and deny all the other verses about salvation ?

I’d say we’re saved how the savior says we’re saved seems logical that the lord knows how he is going to save us
 
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If you go online there are many,lettuce is one,but they need the right conditions,but they aren’t buried..my son grew lettuce just by sprinkling on the ground,obviously they need watering.
well the verse does say fall to the ground, not buried.
I wonder if the being buried was a modern thing to keep the birds from eating up all the seed.
The bible refers to scattering seed, i think that is the case.
 
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[QUOTE="Pilgrimshope, post: 4362206, member:
I’d say we’re saved how the savior says we’re saved seems logical that the lord knows how he is going to save us[/QUOTE]



AMEN!
 

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[QUOTE="Pilgrimshope, post: 4362206, member:
I’d say we’re saved how the savior says we’re saved seems logical that the lord knows how he is going to save us


AMEN![/QUOTE]

“For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:22-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and so the savior sends salvation to the world

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18-20‬ ‭KJV