College rapist released from jail this morning

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Desdichado

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More than that was wrong with it :p Equating women having a choice,
with social disorder, sounds crazy. Sorry Des!
You really ought to re-read my post. If that is what you thought I was writing, then please state your disagreement again and I will respond.
 

blue_ladybug

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Our lawmakers are the ones to blame, and ourselves, for putting them into their positions. We, our lawmakers, made rape a felon that didn't carry the DP or life w/o. If we want to change that we need some brand new law makers. I hear they got a pretty lively one on the Philippines.
You don't honestly believe that our votes actually count, do you? The government elects who THEY want in office. They only allow US to vote, to give us the false impression that WE are in control of who our president and govt officials will be.. :/
 
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Oh I agree. Like I said, trial and conviction. A justice system which relies on mere accusation is neither just nor a system.

That and social order is necessary to more readily determine whether a crime happened at all.
You have no idea how many girls (rape cases) and children (molestation cases) have come forward after a year or three, admitting they were just trying to get even for something they didn't like. Your "Hang 'em high and soon!" method would have long since murdered a large number of innocent men.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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And even if she DID say no, guys don't always accept that for an answer..
Yes.
They were interviewing some guys at a Norwegian school last week about sex and consent.
They said "If she says no you don't know if she means it or just plays hard to get"
 

Desdichado

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You really ought to re-read my post. If that is what you thought I was writing, then please state your disagreement again and I will respond.
That and I'm claiming rape is a crime which ought to be punished. This implies that women do have a choice, does it not?
 

Magenta

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You really ought to re-read my post. If that is what you thought I was writing, then please state your disagreement again and I will respond.
I did read your post more than once. Here it is:

That's what confuses me about feminists- they want sexual liberation and male-like acceptance of promiscuity, but also wish to curb pornography and cry rape when the promiscuity isn't convenient.

You cannot have it both ways, either we have cultural order with legal punishment or social disorder. Choose.

Personally, I want all rape to be severely and swiftly punished, but that also requires a social dynamic in which rape is an apparent factor.
You clearly equate women having a choice as to whom they engage sexually, with social disorder! Saying, when promiscuity isn't convenient, also makes it sound like rape is simply an inconvenience!
 
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Ugly

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I did read your post more than once. Here it is:

You clearly equate women having a choice as to whom they engage sexually, with social disorder! Saying, when promiscuity isn't convenient, also makes it sound like rape is simply an inconvenience!
It's not that clear, I don't see anything close to that.
 

Desdichado

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I did read your post more than once. Here it is:

You clearly equate women having a choice as to whom they engage sexually, with social disorder! Saying, when promiscuity isn't convenient, also makes it sound like rape is simply an inconvenience!
No, I don't! Good gravy. Like I said, that I think rape is a capital punishment-worthy crime should lead one to conclude that all men and women have a choice.

But determining the line between choice and acquiescence to force is more difficult when you have a sexually debased society.

Modern feminism has contributed to this debasement by claiming that it is good for women to sleep around outside the context of marriage like men are wont to do.
 

blue_ladybug

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Women DON'T always have a choice in who they engage in intercourse with. Like if someone slips her a mickey in a drink, or bottle of water. Or the woman who gets attacked and dragged somewhere and raped. Or even if she's at home and a robber or somebody breaks in to rob and rape and kill her.

In their right, sane and sober mind, then yes they DO have a choice. When taken by force or surprise attack, they have no control over what happens to them.. JMO
 

Magenta

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It's not that clear, I don't see anything close to that.
You can't have it both ways? Either it is this or it is that. Women have a choice and there is social disorder or... gosh, it looks pretty clear to me. The inconvenience of rape. That is a good one. Promiscuity breeds rape. Yeah, lets blame the women all over again. She had sex with him and him so it is okay to force myself on her.
 

blue_ladybug

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You don't honestly believe that our votes actually count, do you? The government elects who THEY want in office. They only allow US to vote, to give us the false impression that WE are in control of who our president and govt officials will be.. :/
Thank you for the rep on this post.. It is truly appreciated. :)
 
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I did read your post more than once. Here it is:

You clearly equate women having a choice as to whom they engage sexually, with social disorder! Saying, when promiscuity isn't convenient, also makes it sound like rape is simply an inconvenience!
Yea Des, I get the hypocrisy of the feminist movement sometimes ....esp the lefty's who hijack the original feminist movement which was more about voting, equal pay etc then the stupid stuff they promote now about not using discriminatory pronouns such as they but being gender specific ...some have even hated the emails where it says his/her they scream sexism lol...silly imo far more impt issues than that.....but Des bro you lost me with the promiscuity isn't convenient thing? I didn't get what you were trying to say? Rape is 100% unconsentual otherwise it wouldn't be rape....of course it would be an inconvenience b/c you don't expect it....
 

Desdichado

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You have no idea how many girls (rape cases) and children (molestation cases) have come forward after a year or three, admitting they were just trying to get even for something they didn't like. Your "Hang 'em high and soon!" method would have long since murdered a large number of innocent men.
I'm quite cognizant of these issues, Willie. I suppose what I am saying is that many aspects of our justice system are simply screwed up.

If we were to take how we treat the criminal justice system today as a whole and apply summary executions for rape, I would be against it. Totally, utterly and completely.

Again, proper trial and proper conviction are the first two steps. That has to be fixed first.
 

Magenta

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No, I don't! Good gravy. Like I said, that I think rape is a capital punishment-worthy crime should lead one to conclude that all men and women have a choice.

But determining the line between choice and acquiescence to force is more difficult when you have a sexually debased society.

Modern feminism has contributed to this debasement by claiming that it is good for women to sleep around outside the context of marriage like men are wont to do.
Thank you for clarifying. I did understand that you believe rape should be punished, but... we do live in a world where people are free to make as many mistakes as they care to, whether they are criminal offenses or simply being promiscuous. There is no escaping that fact. Why do men want to say it is the women's fault when men do the very same thing as to sleeping around? That is where you should be saying you can't have it both ways. Otherwise it is just a double standard.
 
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Ultimatum77

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Thank you for the rep on this post.. It is truly appreciated. :)
No problem, lol glad to see you're not fooled by the dog and pony or in this case donkey and elephant show lol.... :)
 
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Ultimatum77

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No, I don't! Good gravy. Like I said, that I think rape is a capital punishment-worthy crime should lead one to conclude that all men and women have a choice.

But determining the line between choice and acquiescence to force is more difficult when you have a sexually debased society.

Modern feminism has contributed to this debasement by claiming that it is good for women to sleep around outside the context of marriage like men are wont to do.
Okay got you now! Ignore my post about confusion...this clears it up brother! :)
 

Magenta

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Time for cookies :D