Legalizing Marijuana

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RickyZ

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It was on Nixon's watch that the dollar was pegged to oil. He even promised that we would never print more than what it was actually worth. One of these days we could be paying 5 grand for a loaf of bread.
I believe the prophecy was a day's wages for a day's food
 

Elizabeth619

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Genesis 9:3 - Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. There are no easy answers on the pot thing I do know that many people live with really bad pain and pot does help with that it also helps cure cancer and other illnesses so I would have to say yes on letting it be legal people use it anyways more then not so just do it and make it another thing the government can tax like crazy
Unfortunately most marijuana advocates use cancer and disease as an excuse to have it legalized when the truth is they want it for recreational use. I don't know one pro marijuana advocate that supports making it legal that doesn't use it for their own pleasure.
As far as non-psychoactive cannabis concerned I see no problem with that. One can get the therapeutic result without the high
 

tanakh

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I thought the US already had. There has to be some explanation to explain why to no hopers are running for President..
 

zeroturbulence

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Unfortunately most marijuana advocates use cancer and disease as an excuse to have it legalized when the truth is they want it for recreational use. I don't know one pro marijuana advocate that supports making it legal that doesn't use it for their own pleasure.
As far as non-psychoactive cannabis concerned I see no problem with that. One can get the therapeutic result without the high
I support legalizing it but I dont use it and dont have any desire to either. My friends used it when I was younger and all it did was mellow them out and make them giggle at stupid things. I think people around here could use a lot of mellowing out. Everyone seems so uptight all the time and ready to tell someone off at any moment. People need to chill out!
 
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tourist

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I support legalizing it but I dont use it and dont have any desire to either. My friends used it when I was younger and all it did was mellow them out and make them giggle at stupid things. I think people around here could use a lot of mellowing out. Everyone seems so uptight all the time and ready to tell someone off at any moment. People need to chill out!
I agree with your estimate. It's time to chillax.
 

p_rehbein

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Genesis 9:3 - Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. There are no easy answers on the pot thing I do know that many people live with really bad pain and pot does help with that it also helps cure cancer and other illnesses so I would have to say yes on letting it be legal people use it anyways more then not so just do it and make it another thing the government can tax like crazy
As with all of the ones you mentioned, the answer is in how one uses the gifts God gave us.............

If the Site would decide when it will and will not separate words, shoot, that would be just spiffy! :)

Tha cannabis plant is great for making material for various things such as clothing, and it does have medicinal value when used properly..........but, as with pretty much everything else God gave us (except common sense), MAN CAN'T FIGURE out how to properly use the stuff.
 

Utah

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Greetings all!

Here is some information that some may know, but many do not know:

"Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood."

"The rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the work of their hands; they did not stop worshiping demons, and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone and wood—idols that cannot see or hear or walk. Nor did they repent of their murders, their magic arts, their sexual immorality or their thefts."

The words translated "magic arts" above, are translated from the word "pharmakeia/pharmakos" which is where we get our English word Pharmaceutical from. Drugs were/are used in relation to incantations and casting spells. Today people are still using drugs for incantations and casting spells, but people are also using drugs for recreational purposes, which still falls under the banner of sorcery, magic arts. Therefore, many people who use Marijuana, methamphetamine's, cocaine, Heroin, etc, are guilty of practicing magic arts, without even realizing it. I believe that this is what is being referred to in the scriptures above, as well as those who are actually practicing magic arts with the rest of its characteristics. Below is the definition forpharmakeia and pharmakos:

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Cognate: 5333 phármakos – properly, a sorcerer; used of people using drugs and "religious incantations" to drug people into living by their illusions – like having magical (supernatural) powers to manipulate God into giving them more temporal possessions.

5331 pharmakeía (from pharmakeuō, "administer drugs") – properly, drug-related sorcery, like the practice of magical-arts, etc.

Word Origin
from pharmakeuó (to administer drugs)

Definition
the use of medicine, drugs or spells

NASB Translation
sorceries (1), sorcery (2).


Sorry my brother. I respect you immensely but I must say, first and foremost, always and forever, Jesus is my Lord and Savior. Once in a while I'll toke on a number and it in no way is partaking in magic arts. That's overkill.
 

posthuman

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5331 pharmakeía (from pharmakeuō, "administer drugs") – properly, drug-related sorcery, like the practice of magical-arts, etc.

Word Origin
from pharmakeuó (to administer drugs)

Definition
the use of medicine, drugs or spells

if this is what you are going by you may as well be calling such things as sugar, caffeine, B-vitamins, the resveratol in grapes and the tryptophan in turkey "sorcery"

so enjoy your water, but better not have any juice or any bread. all those things include substances that change your bodies chemistry ((actually water too, but let's not be too​ hasty lol)). oh yes and stay out of the sunlight, which is our bodies best source of vitamin D, and don't look at people you love, because that causes endorphins to be produced in your brain.

on the other hand, the scripture says He gave us all seed-bearing plants, and that all foods are clean to be taken in thankfulness.
 

posthuman

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I thought the US already had. There has to be some explanation to explain why to no hopers are running for President..
alcohol is the one that tends to make people angry and lose the ability to make sound judgement.
 
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CharlieGrown

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alcohol is the one that tends to make people angry and lose the ability to make sound judgement.
unless there's a taco bell around and you've just lit up....
 

jsr1221

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In America there are approximately 10000 deaths annually related to alcohol. There has never been a single reported death related to marijuana
There has actually. It's not really hard to research, either.
 

Smoke

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Unfortunately most marijuana advocates use cancer and disease as an excuse to have it legalized when the truth is they want it for recreational use. I don't know one pro marijuana advocate that supports making it legal that doesn't use it for their own pleasure.
As far as non-psychoactive cannabis concerned I see no problem with that. One can get the therapeutic result without the high
That's interesting to read. I know definitively that most of my friends are marijuana-free but the majority of them are for legalizing it.

I'm against drinking alcohol personally, but I think it should still be legal. Why should only the things I think are okay be legal and the things I personally disapprove of be illegal?
 
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Susanna

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It's a difficult question. The consequences of drugs are well known, but so are the consequences of the ban on said drugs. We need to get to know more about how things are going in e.g. Colorado before we are making any attempts to make a decision whether to lift the ban on drugs or not.
 

Elizabeth619

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That's interesting to read. I know definitively that most of my friends are marijuana-free but the majority of them are for legalizing it.

I'm against drinking alcohol personally, but I think it should still be legal. Why should only the things I think are okay be legal and the things I personally disapprove of be illegal?
Why do you keep bringing up alcohol? should i make a thread about the legalization of drinking? We are talking about marijuana. Not alcohol. Not premarital sex. Just marijuana and it's legalization and I have given my personal opinion on it. That's it. I've made it clear it's my opinion. You don't agree. That's fine. No one said you had to.
 

stonesoffire

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I read very carefully before I voted. So I wonder if all the states have different rules on how its to be used? For if all states have laws concerning this like Florida, I don't see why it would be not good. For medical use and to be distributed by the health dept.

Ive never used any recreational drugs. Never drank or smoked. But, when people have seizures, chronic pain, and cancer...if it helps? It should not be outlawed IMO.
 

Smoke

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Why do you keep bringing up alcohol? should i make a thread about the legalization of drinking? We are talking about marijuana. Not alcohol. Not premarital sex. Just marijuana and it's legalization and I have given my personal opinion on it. That's it. I've made it clear it's my opinion. You don't agree. That's fine. No one said you had to.
Because you are talking about disagreeing with the legalization of marijuana based on moral principle... Unless someone hacked your account, I specifically remembering you mentioning morals and the government making things legal illegal/vice versa.

It only makes sense to be consistent with our ideology and principles from one substance (marijuana) to another (alcohol).

And I was writing that more so in response at how surprised I was you've never met anyone who was against marijuana personally, but was for it to be legalized. If this was the 80's or 90's, it would sound about right. With more research of marijuana, the negative social stigmas are being debunked and the health benefits are finally becoming made known.
 
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Colt45Bullet

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This is too sick to even continue arguing over. Pathetic. Drugs kill people. People, do, and will die because of drugs. Any drug. Marijuana, cocaine, heroin, ibuprofen, all those can kill people. End of discussion. And if Christians want to legalize something that has and will kill people, then we may as well damn them to hell right now.
 

Elizabeth619

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Because you are talking about disagreeing with the legalization of marijuana based on moral principle... Unless someone hacked your account, I specifically remembering you mentioning morals and the government making things legal illegal/vice versa.

It only makes sense to be consistent with our ideology and principles from one substance (marijuana) to another (alcohol).

And I was writing that more so in response at how surprised I was you've never met anyone who was against marijuana personally, but was for it to be legalized. If this was the 80's or 90's, it would sound about right. With more research of marijuana, the negative social stigmas are being debunked and the health benefits are finally becoming made known.
You're actually harping on one post where I said make everything that is illegal legal. I never said anything about making other things illegal that are already legal. Obviously I did not mean that literally but even in a secular world one needs some type of moral law. I don't like marijuana. From where I sit and where I see things I PERSONALLY do not agree with the legalization of it. While it may seem far fetched, legalizing certain things can open the door for other problems. I'm personally against legalizing prostitution as well and many other immoral activities. Again, this is how I feel personally. I'm sorry that my opinion bothers you but I don't know what else to tell you other than this does not mean I want a theocracy or support that. It means that I don't not agree with marijuana and by me not agreeing has not forced anyone to behave or worship a certain way. It is strictly me not agreeing with it. And if you want to bring up alcohol then we can touch on that too. Make it illegal. I hate the stuff. It's destroyed lives and i lost my father because of a doped up on marijuana drunk driver. He was hit and flew 90 feet. Killed instantly. All internal organs crushed. Anyone who gets a DUI should be imprisoned for attempted murder and never see the light of day. And you want to know what punishment the guy got that killled my father? 6. Months. Probation.
So yes, I am angry and have personal reasons for how I feel. And I'm finished discussing it.