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cinder

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P.S. If you read all that...well, I'd give you a cookie, but I'm trying to kick the habit...
If you did read all that, thank you. Sometimes it's just nice to know I'm not alone on the planet.
Best way to kick the habit is to give them all away (and not buy any more) …… just saying. So umm.. where's my cookie?

And nope you aren't alone on the planet. But if it makes you feel any better about your size, if I ever wore a size 14 it was before I was old enough to pay attention to sizes. Now I just talk about getting back down to the weight on my drivers license or the size I was in middle school. What I'm trying to say is celebrate progress in a positive direction even if it doesn't seem great by all the "objective standards" out there.

As for the other stuff. Yes you did stupid stuff; no that didn't make it right for people to harm you or take advantage of you. Best thing you can do about it now is thank God for bringing you out of it and be wise enough to not do such stupid things again. Hugs and heal up… you are doing more awesomely than you know (even when it's just having the courage to share with people that you aren't feeling so awesome).
 

Roh_Chris

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Yea, those drug companies can be pretty evil, but garcinia cambogia is not actually a drug, but an extract from a fruit called the malabar tamarind.
Malabar tamarind?? That's a native to a region that is 600 miles from where I live. It's the south-western part of India, a place with a mountain range that is home to some of the world's rarest species of flora and fauna. They reckon that there are many unexplored species in that one mountain range. :)

But hey, I wonder.. isn't HCA the same ingredient that is found in Green Coffee Bean? And Dr. Oz had publicly admitted to botching up the results of the studies to prove green coffee bean's effectiveness as a weight-loss supplement. Is garcinia cambogia genuine or is this another botched-up study?

(Don't get me wrong bro. I'm just wondering after what I read about green coffee bean :( )
 
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Best way to kick the habit is to give them all away (and not buy any more) …… just saying. So umm.. where's my cookie?

And nope you aren't alone on the planet. But if it makes you feel any better about your size, if I ever wore a size 14 it was before I was old enough to pay attention to sizes. Now I just talk about getting back down to the weight on my drivers license or the size I was in middle school. What I'm trying to say is celebrate progress in a positive direction even if it doesn't seem great by all the "objective standards" out there.

As for the other stuff. Yes you did stupid stuff; no that didn't make it right for people to harm you or take advantage of you. Best thing you can do about it now is thank God for bringing you out of it and be wise enough to not do such stupid things again. Hugs and heal up… you are doing more awesomely than you know (even when it's just having the courage to share with people that you aren't feeling so awesome).
I can't give you any cookies because I don't have any :p

And thank you, for what you said. I felt pretty stupid this morning, when I remembered what I'd posted last night, but after reading your post...I dunno, I realized Hey, everybody's in a struggle with something, and if anyone out there is able to identify in some small way with what I wrote, and if it helps them feel less alone, then who cares if I feel embarrassed about sharing it?

Also, I just want to say that I notice that you're one of the brave few who tackle some of the more difficult posts on this forum, and it's very touching to see you reach out to others, and I appreciate your responses to my own craziness as well :)
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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Wow. This thread really got ahead of me in the last 16 hours.

lil_christian said:
You can thank the FDA and a small portion of the medical society (not all of it, mind you. Whoever made up tue myplate stuff is at fault) for the fear mongering. Raw milk is bad, whole milk is bad too because its too high in fat. But you know, MSG and sucralose which are poisonous are fine to put in foods. You'd be astonished if you saw the list of ingredients that are allowed in foods. Some are even known carcinogens. But you think they care? Hahahahano.
Supposedly the FDA is so egregiously underfunded that they will pass a lot of things, especially when there is incentive to do so. They (again, "supposedly") simply don't have the funds to supply the time and manpower into properly researching much of what they give the go-ahead to.

It's Friday! I like Friday, even more so today because it's cloudy and we're slated to get some rain (suck it up, zero!). I think I'm going to indulge in some form of escapism either tonight or tomorrow, depending on how busy things are.

Happy Friday, everyone!
 

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Watching all these documentaries literally makes me so amazingly appreciative to be born when I was, where I was
 
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Malabar tamarind?? That's a native to a region that is 600 miles from where I live. It's the south-western part of India, a place with a mountain range that is home to some of the world's rarest species of flora and fauna. They reckon that there are many unexplored species in that one mountain range. :)

But hey, I wonder.. isn't HCA the same ingredient that is found in Green Coffee Bean? And Dr. Oz had publicly admitted to botching up the results of the studies to prove green coffee bean's effectiveness as a weight-loss supplement. Is garcinia cambogia genuine or is this another botched-up study?

(Don't get me wrong bro. I'm just wondering after what I read about green coffee bean :( )
The problem with Dr. Oz and green coffee bean is that it was based on a clinical study called the Vinson Trial. This study/trial was done by individuals and published in an obscure journal and was not listed on the official roster of credible clinical trials (clinicaltrials.gov). The study's author admitted that the results were faked/altered.

Garcinia Cambogia is based on trials done by credible sources, one of them being the University of Florida. The trials are also listed on the credible trials roster (clinicaltrial.gov). That roster is an official US government site (hence the .gov suffix). That study was also published in the New England Journal of Medicine. That is the leading authoritative journal in the medical world.

For the record, I did try green coffee bean when it was popular but it did nothing for me.
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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For the record, I did try green coffee bean when it was popular but it did nothing for me.
Did you try putting it in the hole and threatening it with an ultimatum, like if it doesn't put the lotion on, it gets the hose again? Scare tactics work wonders, zero. :p
 

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So almost all the traffic lights were out this morning on my drive to work. So my drive became a 30 minute commute of weariness and cautious glares at the people on the other side of the intersections.

 

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Hanging out at a park (I am getting paid ti sit and do nothing today). An angry squirrel is in the tree barking at me. Yes. It's a bark. Didn't know they did that. Not a big bark, like from a Great Dane or something, but more of a bark than from a chihuahua or a yorkie.

I said to the squirrel, "You shall hereby be known as 'Cujo.'" It stopped barking, looked at me quizzically, then scampered off to another tree.
 
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Hanging out at a park (I am getting paid ti sit and do nothing today). An angry squirrel is in the tree barking at me. Yes. It's a bark. Didn't know they did that. Not a big bark, like from a Great Dane or something, but more of a bark than from a chihuahua or a yorkie.

I said to the squirrel, "You shall hereby be known as 'Cujo.'" It stopped barking, looked at me quizzically, then scampered off to another tree.
LOL That would've been an awesome youtube moment! :D
 

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Hanging out at a park (I am getting paid ti sit and do nothing today). An angry squirrel is in the tree barking at me. Yes. It's a bark. Didn't know they did that. Not a big bark, like from a Great Dane or something, but more of a bark than from a chihuahua or a yorkie.

I said to the squirrel, "You shall hereby be known as 'Cujo.'" It stopped barking, looked at me quizzically, then scampered off to another tree.

You were way nicer to that squirrel than I would have been. A squirrel was barking at me once and I strutted up to its tree and puffed my chest and threw my hands up like "Bring it. Let's go, you and me. Here and now."

Then again, I don't like squirrels.
 

ChandlerFan

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Watched a good portion of the video and have seen a few others of his in the past. I can agree with some things, others not so much.

The problem is that I can even have those closest to me who may not even want to speak the truth about my character. Probably for the same reason that's stated of becoming hotheaded and going off at the person(s). Similar instances happened in the past where I've even asked nicely and it didn't end so well while they were in denial.
Hmm...yeah, I guess it's hard and kind of defeats the purpose if you can't get a truthful answer from someone. I hope that one day you will be able to from someone who truly cares about you. That way they are doing it out of love, and even if you get mad at them they will be patient with you until you come around to admit that they are right haha. And those people are usually good at genuinely identifying what your strengths are as well.
 

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Out of about 15 different house plants over a 10-month try, only one, count em', one survived, and ironically, I was trying to grow HOUSE plants.

The one that survived was the only one I had outside in a colorful pot on my porch. Because of the cold weather, yes, I have now risked the poor thing's life and *gasp* brought it inside.

The past two afternoons a very forlorn-looking rabbit has been scouting my back porch, stretching, exploring, and looking around.

I have a feeling I took away his dinner. He can see it through the glass but can't get to it. Poor little guy.

How ironic that this one plant survived, even when being turned into a Bunny Buffet.
 

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Also, the brownies I made this week looked great, smelled wonderful... but totally fell apart when I went to cut them. AND THEY WERE FROM A BOX.

No wonder I'm single. I obviously fail in the house plant and baking categories...
 
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Out of about 15 different house plants over a 10-month try, only one, count em', one survived, and ironically, I was trying to grow HOUSE plants.

The one that survived was the only one I had outside in a colorful pot on my porch. Because of the cold weather, yes, I have now risked the poor thing's life and *gasp* brought it inside.

The past two afternoons a very forlorn-looking rabbit has been scouting my back porch, stretching, exploring, and looking around.

I have a feeling I took away his dinner. He can see it through the glass but can't get to it. Poor little guy.

How ironic that this one plant survived, even when being turned into a Bunny Buffet.
"But the one who stands firm to the end will be saved." - Matthew 24:13 NIV

:)
 

ChandlerFan

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Warning: this post may end up being long and pretty boring.

I had a bit of a breakdown a little while ago, but I'm hoping that it will turn out to be more of a breakthrough. There were an embarrassing amount of tears involved, which is annoying, because now it's hard to breathe through my nose. Why do I so rarely think to buy Kleenex?!

Here's the whole story (this is where you should scroll on by, if you so choose)-

I gained 65 pounds from the time I was 17 to now. The fun part of that is, that I've lost 30 pounds, and then gained it back, about three times in the last twelve years, and that's not counting when I had each of my kids and dropped a ton of weight literally in just a couple of days...before gaining it back. That's also not counting the times I've managed to lose up to ten or fifteen pounds before gaining it back. Or all the five pound losses...that I gained back.

When I "ran away" from home to get married to a soldier, I was in the best shape of my life; I was active, I ate healthy food...and I was still a size 14 and still felt like a whale. It's amazing how my perspective has changed over the last decade; what I wouldn't give to be a size 14 again! Even though that would still be technically overweight, it's certainly preferable to where I am now. I've barely started my story and I've already gotten off track.

Right, so, there I was, married at 17, and living across the country. Eating out at restaurants every day because that's just how my (then) husband lived. Fast food. Dinner and movies. I thought it was exciting and fun, I'd never gone out so much before in my life.

As it turns out, that kind of thing...it really packs on the pounds fast. Add to that the fact that I was getting no exercise...I gained 20 pounds just from being married (obviously it wasn't the marriage itself, but you know what I'm saying).

Fast forward a couple of months, and my (then) husband was sent overseas, and I was living with a room mate whose whole life revolved around eating junk food and watching television and partying. It was so easy to fall into her habits, having nobody but her to depend on, being around her friends who did the same thing. I didn't even notice I was putting on weight at first, but one day I stepped on the scale and I cried. I was up another ten pounds.

A side effect of uprooting my entire life and living somewhere I hated and drinking frequently and being indoors all the time and eating the way I was eating- depression. Which only made it all worse and continued the cycle; the more I did these things, the worse I felt. The worse I felt, the more I did these things.

My whole world came crashing down around me that summer. I was raped. Twice. I was pretty well convinced that it was my own fault on both counts, because of my wild behavior, and because of my stupidity. I've tried to accept, since then, that it wasn't my fault, and sometimes I've thought I was successful, even...but I still struggle with it even now, wondering "what if" and "why me" and a number of other less pleasant things.

The result of these events happening within just a few short weeks of each other, done by people I thought were my friends, was that I spent over a month locked away in my room, sleeping 16 or 17 hours a day, and eating. And eating. And eating. I only came out at night, and only to go buy something to eat. I read any book I could get my hands on during the times I was awake, crappy romance novel after crappy romance novel, because that's what my room mate had on her bookshelf.

The thing that made me stop this was that my husband called me one morning after I'd been drinking (I was still drunk when I woke up and answered the phone) and told me that if I didn't go live with his mother, or at the very least go back home to my mom, he would divorce me. So I packed up my few belongings and bought a bus ticket and came back to Colorado to live with my mom.

By that time, I'd gained 40 pounds. My family didn't say anything about the way I looked (at first), but I could feel them staring at me sometimes, and I can't even begin to describe how ashamed of myself I felt. It wasn't even just about the weight, though, it was all of it, the stupid marriage, the drinking, the parties, the rapes, everything. I wasn't that kind of girl. I was raised in a conservative, Christian home. I went to church my whole life. I'd been baptized just barely two years before. I had a good family, I had good friends, I'd been raised to do better and be better...what the hell happened?

My mom went on a diet with me and we started taking walks together in the evenings, but when my husband told me, via instant messenger, that he was back in the U.S, and at home (6 hours away from me), and that he wanted a divorce and would be bringing the papers for me to sign...when I told him I wanted to work on things and he agreed but then filed for a divorce anyway...I dunno, my mom kind of gave up on me, and so did I.

I had happy moments after that. I did. I lost ten pounds. I went through beauty school. I got married again. But there was always the depression that hadn't been dealt with, and while it was so easy to blame all the problems in my marriage on my husband for so long, my issues were to blame for half of it. The fact that we fought so much didn't help, obviously, and the more stressful our lives became, the more I would just shut down emotionally and binge eat.

I've not been...healthy. Not physically, not mentally, not emotionally. I go through times where I feel good, and start to get it together, and then I crash and burn and end up back at square one.

I can't live like this. I can't have a healthy marriage if I'm not healthy. I can't be the best mom for my kids if I can't be a good example. And I can't fix any of this until I learn to accept and move past things that have happened to me.

So tonight, I had a talk with God about it all. Well, I talked...and cried...and I know God was listening because God is always listening, even when I'm making no sense. He's answered so many prayers that I've prayed under the worst conditions. So, this is yet one more thing that I need to try to trust God to pull me through, and I'm starting to feel like a hopeless case, but at the same time I know in my head and in my heart that God has seen me through worse times than tonight. It's just, tonight is the first time I'm really fully seeing all the ways in which I'm broken, and it's the first time I've made a committment to God to start fixing these things so I can better serve Him and my family.

I'm chock-full of cliches right now about hope and motivation and whatnot, all of which I'll keep to myself out of respect for y'all. I'll just leave it at...I'm excited and nervous to take the first steps towards healing and a healthier life. My husband and kids deserve that. I deserve that.

P.S. If you read all that...well, I'd give you a cookie, but I'm trying to kick the habit...
If you did read all that, thank you. Sometimes it's just nice to know I'm not alone on the planet.
Thank you for sharing that and being so open. I know what it's like to feel that hopelessness and desperation. I think I've mentioned before that I gained a significant amount of weight between 3-4 years' time and towards the end of last year I was able to bring it down a little bit. Now I'm trying to recapture those good habits I had gotten into briefly and keep it going.
It's not an easy thing to do, losing weight and keeping it off. It's hard to sustain the motivation and be disciplined, especially during hard times. All I can say is that there will be times when you're going to fail and you have to have a short memory--keep the end in mind. Even though you broke a rule today...or broke a rule everyday for the past week...or whatever, you just have to get back up again and keep going. Resolve just to keep going and thinking forward no matter how many times you fall. And as you go you can figure out how to shake yourself of the habits that seem to want to stick around. I'm of the belief, though, that you can be healthy without exercising 2 hours a day and eating only vegetables. It just involves making good decisions 90% of the time and believing truth about yourself, the truth being that your value and worth isn't dependent on how well you've behaved today or for the past week or for the past year. You are valuable and worthy of love and respect because you are a person and a soul that was created specifically by the hands of God. It helps a lot if you can embrace the truth and the freedom of that because you are less likely to be driven to shame when you do fail. Grace enables us to get back up and keep going on.

I hope and pray that you can continue to find healing for the past hurts you've gone through as well. Thank you for being an example to us of what it looks like to be broken and press into the Lord instead of going to anything or anyone else, and also for showing us how powerfully His love can move us toward life and healing.
 

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Also, the brownies I made this week looked great, smelled wonderful... but totally fell apart when I went to cut them. AND THEY WERE FROM A BOX.

No wonder I'm single. I obviously fail in the house plant and baking categories...
I'm pretty sure brownies are tasty regardless of how many pieces they are in :p
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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Hanging out at a park (I am getting paid ti sit and do nothing today). An angry squirrel is in the tree barking at me. Yes. It's a bark. Didn't know they did that. Not a big bark, like from a Great Dane or something, but more of a bark than from a chihuahua or a yorkie.

I said to the squirrel, "You shall hereby be known as 'Cujo.'" It stopped barking, looked at me quizzically, then scampered off to another tree.
You were way nicer to that squirrel than I would have been. A squirrel was barking at me once and I strutted up to its tree and puffed my chest and threw my hands up like "Bring it. Let's go, you and me. Here and now."

Then again, I don't like squirrels.
A squirrel once stole an ice cream cone right out of my hand. True story. I was trying to lure it over. My mom kept going on about how it wouldn't come that close to me. The squirrel proceeded with caution, grasped the lowered cone, took one lick of my chocolate ice cream, then scrammed with the whole cone.

 
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You guys need to start filming your squirrel moments for youtube. Y'all are sittin on a goldmine I tell ya! :D