Traditional Family: Husband works and Wife is a stay at home mom.

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Do you want a tradional family somday?


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Feminism has been given a nasty reputation because what started off as something good, mutated into an monster - eg. Men-are-all-evil-rapists-and-pedophiles-etc. Um. No.
There is a difference between feminism and misandry :) Feminism is the better side. Misandry is what involves the hatred of men...period. :) I hope that clears it up for you.
 

mystdancer50

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Even some men consider themselves feminists...and not just homosexuals, either. "Manly men". ;)
 
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There is a difference between feminism and misandry :) Feminism is the better side. Misandry is what involves the hatred of men...period. :) I hope that clears it up for you.
I've never heard of misandry but I've seen people refer to the hate-mongering of men by women as femi-Nazis.
 

Misty77

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Feminism has been given a nasty reputation because what started off as something good, mutated into an monster - eg. Men-are-all-evil-rapists-and-pedophiles-etc. Um. No.
Oh, Tintin, I just want to clone you! :)

Like, in a totally noncreepy way.
 

mystdancer50

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Oh, Tintin, I just want to clone you! :)

Like, in a totally noncreepy way.
I tried to find a photo of that creepy doll from The 6th Day...but this was the only one I could find:

simpalcindy_doll.jpg
 

Pipp

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trust me.... that doll is creepy enough..
 

Liamson

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I've never dated anyone with the concept in mind of how things like this would work.

I can say that only one of the women I dated was in favor having children. I do tend to be more attracted to women who are not terribly eager to have lots of kids. I would be okay with none or some but its a case by case basis.

Also, I consider myself a pretty good cook, so I would not be opposed to sharing the kitchen duties with someone who enjoys it as much as I do. I would be mildly disappointed if I was banned from my own devices in the kitchen.

In general my expectations are adaptable from one relationship to another.

I am not in favor of having rigid family structures in place as far as obligations go.

My dream job would be to make a living off of Foreign Exchange Trading from a home office, which would allow me the flexibility to homeschool or pursue all kinds of personal academic stuff or just other things in general.
 

AsifinPassing

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I can see the wisdom in letting say a wife.. who is comparible to an accountant to handle the budgeting. However, the head of the household thing is simply a Christain principle. It doesn't matter what you think of conservative fundamentalism... God has chosen us husbands to lead our families. Be flexible where you can be but where God draws the line... that's where nobody should be flexible. Reconsider... If you get married, your responsible for your family God will hold you accountable. For your future family's sake, think about the scriptures that I'm sure you already know which tells us to be family leaders.
Thank you for your consideration, time, and response. I confer to you a few things. You must serve to lead. Those wishing to be greatest must become the least, and similarly, knowledge can puff up, but is meant to humble us. As you walk on your own journey with God, find what He tells you, and learn ever deeper what The Spirit has to teach.

"We are who we are called to be." ...and there are a great many callings.
 

Calmador

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So women are the ones with pride issues? Yet it was men who clearly didn't want women speaking in church, didn't want women voting in the polls, didn't want women having say-so in households, and didn't want women having jobs....yet we're the ones with a pride issue? Okay then...
If you want talk in absolutes... sure all men are guilty of sin. Guilty as charged. It might even be far fetched to say all men might've sinned the sin of pride. Guilty as charged. May God reach out to us and forgive us. And as for women... I think the same can be said... probably.

Anyways, I think you have a chip on your shoulder. I'm sorry if what I said bothers you... but as I was telling the other poster, she may have a point... feminism isn't necessary the cause for the more promiscuous modern woman, less approval of husband as household... etc etc It can easily be said that its pride that has led women into lesser standards. Pride. God chose husbands to lead their families and wives should submit. Why wouldn't she? I'd say maybe a good cause is pride and feminism can be a nice tool for not submitting to her husband and also disobeying God's structure of the family. Pride would just be a good explanation.
 
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God chose husbands to lead their families and wives should submit. Why wouldn't she? I'd say maybe a good cause is pride and feminism can be a nice tool for not submitting to her husband and also disobeying God's structure of the family. Pride would just be a good explanation.
Not wanting to submit to a husband could be caused by many things. Pride is only one. Another is rebellion, and rebellion is borne of fear. To battle that, one must understand why there is fear. The problem with lack of submission (whether it's a women and her husband, a man and his church leaders, or anyone concerning God) is complicated and requires some serious soul-searching.
 

Calmador

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Perhaps I should have clarified that I meant stay at home vs work at home. These women worked for the most part regardless of the location. Many were farmers, seamstresses, maids, cooks, or other jobs, not necessarily professions.
Yeah... and the farmer housewives.. were basically stay at home moms... Also the cooks... and the seamstresses.. maids... all of which historically would work from home or close to home so they can care for their children.
 

Misty77

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If you want talk in absolutes... sure all men are guilty of sin. Guilty as charged. It might even be far fetched to say all men might've sinned the sin of pride. Guilty as charged. May God reach out to us and forgive us. And as for women... I think the same can be said... probably.

Anyways, I think you have a chip on your shoulder. I'm sorry if what I said bothers you... but as I was telling the other poster, she may have a point... feminism isn't necessary the cause for the more promiscuous modern woman, less approval of husband as household... etc etc It can easily be said that its pride that has led women into lesser standards. Pride. God chose husbands to lead their families and wives should submit. Why wouldn't she? I'd say maybe a good cause is pride and feminism can be a nice tool for not submitting to her husband and also disobeying God's structure of the family. Pride would just be a good explanation.
Not to derail the thread, but since you invoked the word "submit," let me educate you on the other side of that coin. As you mentioned, men lead their wives. Also notice that wives are rulers, or literally "despots" of the home. The bolded word is only found in the Bible this one time, and it where we get the word "despot" from.

I Timothy 5:14, "Therefore, I want younger widows to get married, bear children, keep house, and give the enemy no occasion for reproach;"

Oikodespoteo:
  1. to be master (or head) of a house
  2. to rule a household, manage family affairs
 

Misty77

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Yeah... and the farmer housewives.. were basically stay at home moms... Also the cooks... and the seamstresses.. maids... all of which historically would work from home or close to home so they can care for their children.
Work at home moms and stay at home moms are two different people. (I'm not saying SAHMs aren't working. Please see my other posts for clarification.)
 

Calmador

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Not wanting to submit to a husband could be caused by many things. Pride is only one. Another is rebellion, and rebellion is borne of fear. To battle that, one must understand why there is fear. The problem with lack of submission (whether it's a women and her husband, a man and his church leaders, or anyone concerning God) is complicated and requires some serious soul-searching.
Yeah, I'm sure pride isn't the only sin that can fit the bill. At the moment, that was the only sin I thought up.
 

Calmador

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Not to derail the thread, but since you invoked the word "submit," let me educate you on the other side of that coin. As you mentioned, men lead their wives. Also notice that wives are rulers, or literally "despots" of the home. The bolded word is only found in the Bible this one time, and it where we get the word "despot" from.

I Timothy 5:14, "Therefore, I want younger widows to get married, bear children, keep house, and give the enemy no occasion for reproach;"

Oikodespoteo:
  1. to be master (or head) of a house
  2. to rule a household, manage family affairs
Thanks for the info, are you mentioning this just to clarify things or is there something I missed?
 

Calmador

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Work at home moms and stay at home moms are two different people. (I'm not saying SAHMs aren't working. Please see my other posts for clarification.)
I guess we have different definitions. I think a stay at home mom is a mom that is primarily concerned for her children and her household. And she can work outside of the home (like the proverbs 31 woman) but is mainly focused on her household.