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thanks, i was about to post a thought about that and *poof*! pc dropped the wifi.
srsly, rape is about dominance, control and violence, not sexual frustration. think about it, DayVerlo, in modern culture, the person who would force themselves on others doesn't lack opportunity for sex... pretty much no one does.
it ain't about that, tho.
srsly, rape is about dominance, control and violence, not sexual frustration. think about it, DayVerlo, in modern culture, the person who would force themselves on others doesn't lack opportunity for sex... pretty much no one does.
it ain't about that, tho.
The honest, little-known truth is that I have no room to talk.
When I first got to CC, I wrote a number of "controversial" threads right out of the gate and got into a bit of trouble for it. But the mod who penalized me (am I allowed to say that here... lol) was very fair and we even talked a few times in the Lounge.
I've always been grateful to CC for giving me a chance and not banning me during my first 3 months here!
However, I've never lost my penchant for topics that make people squirm, and am usually interested in seeing how others attempt to bring them up.
When I first got to CC, I wrote a number of "controversial" threads right out of the gate and got into a bit of trouble for it. But the mod who penalized me (am I allowed to say that here... lol) was very fair and we even talked a few times in the Lounge.
I've always been grateful to CC for giving me a chance and not banning me during my first 3 months here!
However, I've never lost my penchant for topics that make people squirm
, and am usually interested in seeing how others attempt to bring them up.
The honest, little-known truth is that I have no room to talk.
When I first got to CC, I wrote a number of "controversial" threads right out of the gate and got into a bit of trouble for it. But the mod who penalized me (am I allowed to say that here... lol) was very fair and we even talked a few times in the Lounge.
I've always been grateful to CC for giving me a chance and not banning me during my first 3 months here!
However, I've never lost my penchant for topics that make people squirm, and am usually interested in seeing how others attempt to bring them up.
When I first got to CC, I wrote a number of "controversial" threads right out of the gate and got into a bit of trouble for it. But the mod who penalized me (am I allowed to say that here... lol) was very fair and we even talked a few times in the Lounge.
I've always been grateful to CC for giving me a chance and not banning me during my first 3 months here!
However, I've never lost my penchant for topics that make people squirm
, and am usually interested in seeing how others attempt to bring them up.
I would like to read some of those "controversial" threads of yours.
Alas, the system only holds 19 pages of anything we write (whether posts or threads), and when I last checked, all my threads from 2009-2010 have been "pushed out" of the system, and those were probably the most hair-raising things I've ever written here.
(I apologize for giving any of the mods at that time near-heart attacks when dealing with me.)
At the time, I was still very bitter, sad, and angry from my divorce, and so I spent the first couple of years here just testing the waters.
It's been a while since I checked, but if I think the earliest of the threads I wrote that are still accessible start somewhere around 2011.
(I apologize for giving any of the mods at that time near-heart attacks when dealing with me.)
At the time, I was still very bitter, sad, and angry from my divorce, and so I spent the first couple of years here just testing the waters.
It's been a while since I checked, but if I think the earliest of the threads I wrote that are still accessible start somewhere around 2011.
Hi, Willie-T. I mean "rewiring" in the physiological sense, when psychologists say that "neurons that fire together, wire together," and the plasticity that God designed into our brains... someone who self-gratifies on a regular basis will have their neurons firing a certain way, with certain triggers, and these patterns can become engrained... I guess that's what I meant by "rewiring," but this behavior can be changed of course! In your counseling experience, I imagine you probably had to help a lot of people who had "wired" their brains a certain unhealthy way, and then had to go through the process of learning healthy patterns. So I think "faulty learning" and "rewiring" were somewhat synonymous in this instance... at least I think so!
Still an interesting subject, and thank you for all the work you've done helping people
I mean "rewiring" in the physiological sense, when psychologists say that "neurons that fire together, wire together," and the plasticity that God designed into our brains... someone who self-gratifies on a regular basis will have their neurons firing a certain way, with certain triggers, and these patterns can become engrained... I guess that's what I meant by "rewiring," but this behavior can be changed of course! In your counseling experience, I imagine you probably had to help a lot of people who had "wired" their brains a certain unhealthy way, and then had to go through the process of learning healthy patterns. So I think "faulty learning" and "rewiring" were somewhat synonymous in this instance... at least I think so! Still an interesting subject, and thank you for all the work you've done helping people
The only way I know of to access posts further back than the 19 pages our profiles will hold is if you find the profiles of others who were around that time, but didn't make enough posts to push those old posts and threads out of the system in their profiles.
But finding people who've been around here this long, and posted enough to keep those old threads and posts in their records... is truly like digging up a fossil.
(Unless there's another way... But either way, I would imagine it would take a lot more time than it would be worth.)
But finding people who've been around here this long, and posted enough to keep those old threads and posts in their records... is truly like digging up a fossil.
(Unless there's another way... But either way, I would imagine it would take a lot more time than it would be worth.)
Man, Tommy.
I'm afraid to answer, because I know that if someone had told me it was going to take me 20+ years to get past it, I would have hung myself on the spot. A lot of it has been my own fault though, because I kept clinging on to things God was trying to pry me away from.
I know it's different for everyone. Sometimes I read your post and they bring it all back, because I know some of the feelings you're describing all too well.
All I can say is, hang in there, day by day. When I ask God how He's gotten me through, He keeps telling me, "Day by day."
And I know that an hour in itself can feel like 3 days. All I know is that, over time... day by day, after many, many days... Sometimes, just sometimes, it didn't quite sting as much as it used to.
Keep reaching, Tommy. God is out there, I promise. And I know it doesn't feel like, but God is reaching back for you.
I'll be sure to keep you in my prayers.
God bless you.
I'm afraid to answer, because I know that if someone had told me it was going to take me 20+ years to get past it, I would have hung myself on the spot. A lot of it has been my own fault though, because I kept clinging on to things God was trying to pry me away from.
I know it's different for everyone. Sometimes I read your post and they bring it all back, because I know some of the feelings you're describing all too well.
All I can say is, hang in there, day by day. When I ask God how He's gotten me through, He keeps telling me, "Day by day."
And I know that an hour in itself can feel like 3 days. All I know is that, over time... day by day, after many, many days... Sometimes, just sometimes, it didn't quite sting as much as it used to.
Keep reaching, Tommy. God is out there, I promise. And I know it doesn't feel like, but God is reaching back for you.
I'll be sure to keep you in my prayers.
God bless you.
Hi, Willie-T. I mean "rewiring" in the physiological sense, when psychologists say that "neurons that fire together, wire together," and the plasticity that God designed into our brains... someone who self-gratifies on a regular basis will have their neurons firing a certain way, with certain triggers, and these patterns can become engrained... I guess that's what I meant by "rewiring," but this behavior can be changed of course! In your counseling experience, I imagine you probably had to help a lot of people who had "wired" their brains a certain unhealthy way, and then had to go through the process of learning healthy patterns. So I think "faulty learning" and "rewiring" were somewhat synonymous in this instance... at least I think so!
Still an interesting subject, and thank you for all the work you've done helping people
I mean "rewiring" in the physiological sense, when psychologists say that "neurons that fire together, wire together," and the plasticity that God designed into our brains... someone who self-gratifies on a regular basis will have their neurons firing a certain way, with certain triggers, and these patterns can become engrained... I guess that's what I meant by "rewiring," but this behavior can be changed of course! In your counseling experience, I imagine you probably had to help a lot of people who had "wired" their brains a certain unhealthy way, and then had to go through the process of learning healthy patterns. So I think "faulty learning" and "rewiring" were somewhat synonymous in this instance... at least I think so! Still an interesting subject, and thank you for all the work you've done helping people
Oh, c'mon. I restrain myself from the act, Ive went long periods without giving in, and the frustration Ive dealt with while doing that was no different than when I give in. The urge comes and goes no matter WHAT I do : p
Rape is not caused from denying ones self. Rape comes from a wandering mind that has let itself be lead to consider the idea and find it alluring, just like all other evil deeds.
I have found that its impossible to do the deed without the evil thoughts. Doing wrong for the sake of achieving right is sin. The more you fight these urges, the stronger you can become against them.
Rape is not caused from denying ones self. Rape comes from a wandering mind that has let itself be lead to consider the idea and find it alluring, just like all other evil deeds.
I have found that its impossible to do the deed without the evil thoughts. Doing wrong for the sake of achieving right is sin. The more you fight these urges, the stronger you can become against them.
God bless you for not giving up on people who, to our shame, most of us would give up on from the start.
Nothing makes me happier than hearing the testimonies of people who have experienced God and changed their lives around.
If it wasn't for them, I would forget how powerful God really is. (And, how much I really need to be changed, too.)
Nothing makes me happier than hearing the testimonies of people who have experienced God and changed their lives around.
If it wasn't for them, I would forget how powerful God really is. (And, how much I really need to be changed, too.)
Or, a person stays in step with the Holy Spirit denying themselves by bringing their sinful desires under control by the power of God.
Those who do what you are suggesting above are those who are not in step with the Spirit, but are more concerned about fulfilling the desires of their flesh.
And it can be done, because sexual immorality was my personal demon for many years of my life, even as a Christian. And because I was in Christ the Spirit was warring against my flesh and the flesh against the Spirit, for they are contrary to one another. The conflict got to the point that though I fulfilled the desires of my flesh, it grieved me in the Spirit. At that time I Prayed to God saying "either this sin is going to kill me or you are going to make it possible for me to finally come out from underneath this" And God heard me and made it possible for me to get the victory over these desires. As a result, I am free of being a slave to sexual immorality.
Make no mistake, anyone who willfully continues in sexual immorality, along with the other sins of the flesh, will not inherit the kingdom of God.
What you are suggesting above is just an excuse to continue doing those things.
There is no misdirection of the word "fornicate." Below is the actual meaning of the word:
porneía (the root of the English terms "pornography, pornographic"; cf. 4205 /pórnos) which is derived from pernaō, "to sell off") – properly, a selling off (surrendering) of sexual purity; promiscuity of any (every) type.
Any sexual intimacy outside of a married man and woman is sexual immorality
Everything that you have mentioned above are all reasons to not believe in Christ and commit yourself to him.
Regardless of what any of those individuals that you mentioned above do or don't do is not the question. The question to you and every person is what is your answer to Christ shedding his blood for you in payment for your sin. God will deal with those people that you have mentioned above, but what is your answer?
And when you recognize what Christ did for you, then your answer will be to receive him as Lord and Savior. You can't use the excuse of other groups as a reason to reject Christ. He will judge them and everyone else who rejects him.
Those who do what you are suggesting above are those who are not in step with the Spirit, but are more concerned about fulfilling the desires of their flesh.
And it can be done, because sexual immorality was my personal demon for many years of my life, even as a Christian. And because I was in Christ the Spirit was warring against my flesh and the flesh against the Spirit, for they are contrary to one another. The conflict got to the point that though I fulfilled the desires of my flesh, it grieved me in the Spirit. At that time I Prayed to God saying "either this sin is going to kill me or you are going to make it possible for me to finally come out from underneath this" And God heard me and made it possible for me to get the victory over these desires. As a result, I am free of being a slave to sexual immorality.
Make no mistake, anyone who willfully continues in sexual immorality, along with the other sins of the flesh, will not inherit the kingdom of God.
What you are suggesting above is just an excuse to continue doing those things.
There is no misdirection of the word "fornicate." Below is the actual meaning of the word:
porneía (the root of the English terms "pornography, pornographic"; cf. 4205 /pórnos) which is derived from pernaō, "to sell off") – properly, a selling off (surrendering) of sexual purity; promiscuity of any (every) type.
Any sexual intimacy outside of a married man and woman is sexual immorality
Everything that you have mentioned above are all reasons to not believe in Christ and commit yourself to him.
Regardless of what any of those individuals that you mentioned above do or don't do is not the question. The question to you and every person is what is your answer to Christ shedding his blood for you in payment for your sin. God will deal with those people that you have mentioned above, but what is your answer?
And when you recognize what Christ did for you, then your answer will be to receive him as Lord and Savior. You can't use the excuse of other groups as a reason to reject Christ. He will judge them and everyone else who rejects him.
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