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Hmmm, I think I will continue to rob my self...

Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
you reap what you sow and "They" are the born again christians
 

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Hmmm, I think I will continue to rob my self...

Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
You know John832 youd think anyone that would read the scripture you posted and believe it would understand. But they don't. How can they explain what it says? They cant. They just don't believe the written Word. They have to do a song and dance around it. But to what end?
 
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leonardronaldo

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The accusation was that they broke the Sabbath. Do you know why?
accusation of Jesus to Pharisee? or the Pharisee to the disciple?
either way you want it, Jesus rebuke all sinners not to judge, if you yourself is still failing in that same matters.
 

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hey don't cute a quotation from others. that's like a false witness.
where was my first sentence there?
Cuteing a quote is not bearing false witness. Mixed in with your false teachings is some true teachings...I only wish to deal with your false. That's why I cute.

Ps- I think your cut
 

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Sure it does

PSALM 89 [30] IF HIS CHILDREN FORSAKE MY LAW, and walk not in my judgments; [31] If they break my statutes, AND KEEP NOT MY COMMANDMENTS; [32] Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes. [33] Nevertheless my lovingkindness will I not utterly take from him, nor suffer my faithfulness to fail. [34] MY COVENANT WILL I NOT BREAK, NOR ALTER the thing that is gone out of my lips.

Have you and yours altered HIS 4th commandment?

PS- If your trying to make the case that the covenant of Hebrews 10 has arrived...you'd be wrong
33 but I will not remove from him my steadfast love
or be false to my faithfulness.
34 I will not violate my covenant
or alter the word that went forth from my lips.
35 Once for all I have sworn by my holiness;
I will not lie to David.
36 His offspring shall endure forever,
his throne as long as the sun before me.

37 Like the moon it shall be established forever,
a faithful witness in the skies.”

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Jeremiah 23:5
"The days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will raise up for David a righteous Branch, a King who will reign wisely and do what is just and right in the land

Daniel 2:44
"In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.

Luke 1:33
The Birth of Jesus Foretold

32He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give to him the throne of his father David: 33And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Hebrews 12
A Kingdom That Cannot Be Shaken

18For you have not come to what may be touched, a blazing fire and darkness and gloom and a tempest 19and the sound of a trumpet and a voice whose words made the hearers beg that no further messages be spoken to them. 20For they could not endure the order that was given, “If even a beast touches the mountain, it shall be stoned.” 21Indeed, so terrifying was the sight that Moses said, “I tremble with fear.” 22But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, 23and to the assemblya of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect,

24and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.

25See that you do not refuse him who is speaking. For if they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on earth, much less will we escape if we reject him who warns from heaven. 26At that time his voice shook the earth, but now he has promised, “Yet once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens.” 27This phrase, “Yet once more,” indicates the removal of things that are shaken—that is, things that have been made—in order that the things that cannot be shaken may remain. 28Therefore let us be grateful for receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, and thus let us offer to God acceptable worship, with reverence and awe, 29for our God is a consuming fire.


Hebrews 13:15

Through Jesus, therefore, let us continually offer to God a sacrifice of praise--the fruit of lips that openly profess his name.

Romans 12:1
Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God--this is your true and proper worship.

John 4
21Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe me, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. 22You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. 24God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” 25The woman said to him, “I know that Messiah is coming (he who is called Christ). When he comes, he will tell us all things.” 26Jesus said to her, “I who speak to you am he.”

Philippians 3
Righteousness through Faith

1Finally, my brothers, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe. 2Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. 3For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh

Romans 2:29
No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person's praise is not from other people, but from God.

Romans 8:39
neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 
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leonardronaldo

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Cuteing a quote is not bearing false witness. Mixed in with your false teachings is some true teachings...I only wish to deal with your false. That's why I cute.

Ps- I think your cut
It is a false witness, because you change what I meant to say.
When I put Interpretation in the first sentence, and put So you are saying in the second.
of course that second sentence were to refer the first sentence, which is your interpretation.
So since you violate 9th commandment now, according to your logic and interpretation, you haven't received the Holy Spirit?
nice. thanks for exposing yourself.
 

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SO DO YOU DO SABBATH AS IT IS WRITTEN? PERFECTLY? EVERY TIME THERE IS Christians who fail to observe those requirements, PERFECTLY, do you put them (or yourself) to death?
Why do you keep asking me the questions you should be asking God? He is the one who puts people to death for sin (the transgression of His Law). Asking such quesitons makes me wonder how much about repentance and forgiveness you understand. God is longsuffering with our foibles and faults...

1Ti 1:16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

God is patience and mercy and gives us space to repent.

Rev 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
Rev 2:21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

Psa 103:8 The LORD is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy.
Psa 103:9 He will not always chide: neither will he keep his anger for ever.
Psa 103:10 He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.
Psa 103:11 For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him.
Psa 103:12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.
Psa 103:13 Like as a father pitieth his children, so the LORD pitieth them that fear him.
Psa 103:14 For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust.
Psa 103:15 As for man, his days are as grass: as a flower of the field, so he flourisheth.
Psa 103:16 For the wind passeth over it, and it is gone; and the place thereof shall know it no more.
Psa 103:17 But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children;
Psa 103:18 To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them.

Notice the last verse in context with the previous ones. God is not instant anger, He is very merciful and forgives us when we are trying to do His will. Trying to obey Him. I really wonder where this idea comes form that the God of the Old Covenant was a hanging judge. The God of the Old Covenant is the same as the God of the New Covenant. Christ is the one who gave that covenant and the God of the Old Testament.


ALL I WANT TO SAY is, humans fail, without the justification of the Holy Spirit. Unless people realize that, there is no grace.
And you are exactly correct here. Humans fail but...

Psa 130:3 If thou, LORD, shouldest mark iniquities, O Lord, who shall stand?
Psa 130:4 But there is forgiveness with thee, that thou mayest be feared.

And where is your opinion on PERSECUTED CHRISTIANS who DON'T uphold and worship GOD on the same sabbath day as you do?
I am very sorry they are persecuted. I don't understand why you would think I want to see anyone persecuted. The subject of this thread is not those who are persecuted but rather "Is Christ the Sabbath" and I have been showing that Christ is not the Sabbath. The Sabbath is the seventh day, Christ is the Creator of the sabbath.
 

john832

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you reap what you sow and "They" are the born again christians
They are reaping for keeping the Commandments. How about this one...

Rev 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Here we see the church being persecuted by the Devil, who is the remnant of her seed? The ones who keep the Commandments of God and have the Spirit of Prophecy (Rev19:10).

And here is one...

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

The saints are those who keep the Commnadments of God and have the faith of Christ...

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

It is the faith of Christ that saves us.
 

zone

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Hey there Wall my friend, you are absolutely correct...

Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

It is ready to and will at the return of Christ
. But ready to and already done are two different things. Just ask someone who is ready to eat if they are already full.

what HERESY.

Dual Covenants?

where's the temple for continuing with the Old Covenant?
did the Romans break with God's Plan and destroy it on their own?

nah:



Luke 19
41As he approached Jerusalem and saw the city, he wept over it 42and said, “If you, even you, had only known on this day what would bring you peace—but now it is hidden from your eyes. 43The days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment against you and encircle you and hem you in on every side. 44They will dash you to the ground, you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of God’s coming to you.”


it's all right here: everything the LAW pointed to - and He accomplished it ALL.
if some were reprobate and rejected Him, does that mean the Old Covenant is underway for them?

Daniel 9
24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

SEVENTY WEEKS.
 

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Dual-covenant theology is a Christian view of the Old Covenant which holds that Jews may simply keep the "Law of Moses", because of the "everlasting covenant" (Genesis 17:13) between Abraham and God expressed in the Hebrew Bible, whereas Gentiles (those not Jews or Jewish proselytes) must convert to Christianity or alternatively accept the Seven Laws of Noah to be assured of a place in the World to Come.

Many forms of Christianity, especially Conservative Protestants, consider this view to be heresy.

Dual-covenant theology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click
 

john832

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accusation of Jesus to Pharisee? or the Pharisee to the disciple?
either way you want it, Jesus rebuke all sinners not to judge, if you yourself is still failing in that same matters.
The Pharisees accused the disciples of threshing grain on the Sabbath. This is how wrapped up in their own rules and traditions they had become. Here is another example...

Mar 7:1 Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem.
Mar 7:2 And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.
Mar 7:3 For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.
Mar 7:4 And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables.
Mar 7:5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
Mar 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
Mar 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Mar 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
Mar 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
Mar 7:10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
Mar 7:11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
Mar 7:12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
Mar 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
 
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leonardronaldo

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Why do you keep asking me the questions you should be asking God? He is the one who puts people to death for sin (the transgression of His Law). Asking such quesitons makes me wonder how much about repentance and forgiveness you understand. God is longsuffering with our foibles and faults...

1Ti 1:16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

God is patience and mercy and gives us space to repent.

Rev 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
Rev 2:21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

Psa 103:8 The LORD is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy.
Psa 103:9 He will not always chide: neither will he keep his anger for ever.
Psa 103:10 He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.
Psa 103:11 For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him.
Psa 103:12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.
Psa 103:13 Like as a father pitieth his children, so the LORD pitieth them that fear him.
Psa 103:14 For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust.
Psa 103:15 As for man, his days are as grass: as a flower of the field, so he flourisheth.
Psa 103:16 For the wind passeth over it, and it is gone; and the place thereof shall know it no more.
Psa 103:17 But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children;
Psa 103:18 To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them.

Notice the last verse in context with the previous ones. God is not instant anger, He is very merciful and forgives us when we are trying to do His will. Trying to obey Him. I really wonder where this idea comes form that the God of the Old Covenant was a hanging judge. The God of the Old Covenant is the same as the God of the New Covenant. Christ is the one who gave that covenant and the God of the Old Testament.




And you are exactly correct here. Humans fail but...

Psa 130:3 If thou, LORD, shouldest mark iniquities, O Lord, who shall stand?
Psa 130:4 But there is forgiveness with thee, that thou mayest be feared.



I am very sorry they are persecuted. I don't understand why you would think I want to see anyone persecuted. The subject of this thread is not those who are persecuted but rather "Is Christ the Sabbath" and I have been showing that Christ is not the Sabbath. The Sabbath is the seventh day, Christ is the Creator of the sabbath.
lol the first part that you cut from my post, I meant to say that unless you do that to its entirety you can't judge others for you do fail on the same matters.
Second cut, yes the same God that forgives, is the only hope you can rely on to be justified before Himself.
Third cut, you are very sorry, but do you believe they are going to hell just because they don't believe in the same sabbath day as you did, but they believe in Christ, even persecuted for that belief?
well Jesus said His sheeps will be persecuted, so if you are surprised, may be you don't know Jesus yet.
 

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Hey there Wall my friend, you are absolutely correct...

Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

It is ready to and will at the return of Christ. But ready to and already done are two different things. Just ask someone who is ready to eat if they are already full.
Hey John832 have you seen what they've done in some of the newer books they've written. They changed the words "waxeth old" to obsolete. Guess they felt they had to in order to hide the truth.
 

john832

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You know John832 youd think anyone that would read the scripture you posted and believe it would understand. But they don't. How can they explain what it says? They cant. They just don't believe the written Word. They have to do a song and dance around it. But to what end?
For some reason people hate God's Law (Rom 8:7). And if you really want to touch a nerve, the fourth Commandment is fightin' words.
 

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Hey John832 have you seen what they've done in some of the newer books they've written. They changed the words "waxeth old" to obsolete. Guess they felt they had to in order to hide the truth.
hey wall:

do you agree with your pal:

"Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. It is ready to and will at the return of Christ."

???
 

john832

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lol the first part that you cut from my post, I meant to say that unless you do that to its entirety you can't judge others for you do fail on the same matters.
Second cut, yes the same God that forgives, is the only hope you can rely on to be justified before Himself.
Third cut, you are very sorry, but do you believe they are going to hell just because they don't believe in the same sabbath day as you did, but they believe in Christ, even persecuted for that belief?
well Jesus said His sheeps will be persecuted, so if you are surprised, may be you don't know Jesus yet.
No, I don't believe they are going to hell. First of all, I don't believe in the fairy tale of an everburning hell. That is a rehash of the book The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri. Secondly, I don't believe this is the only day of salvation. In fact, I thin kthat this is the day of the early small harvest. I really believe there will be some, but a very few who go into the Lake of Fire. They will, in full understanding, choose NOT to go the way of God. Most today are not choosing death in full consciousness...

Mat 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

Most today are not choosing death in full consciousness.
 
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leonardronaldo

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The Pharisees accused the disciples of threshing grain on the Sabbath. This is how wrapped up in their own rules and traditions they had become. Here is another example...

Mar 7:1 Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem.
Mar 7:2 And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.
Mar 7:3 For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.
Mar 7:4 And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables.
Mar 7:5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
Mar 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
Mar 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Mar 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
Mar 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
Mar 7:10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
Mar 7:11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
Mar 7:12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
Mar 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
ok. and?
the same thing happens, right, Jesus rebuke them for their hypocrisy. that's what I said, if you yourself is still failing in that same matters, don't judge the other on that matter.
 

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For some reason people hate God's Law (Rom 8:7). And if you really want to touch a nerve, the fourth Commandment is fightin' words.
for some reason some deluded people think they can do what others under The Law could never do (because they disagree with God). it is THEY who hate the Law, for they dare to say they keep it when God already said THEY DON'T.

Leviticus 18:5
Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the LORD.

Romans 7:10
And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

Romans 10:5
For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.

Galatians 3
By Faith, or by Works of the Law?
1O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. 2Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? 3Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected bya the flesh? 4Did you sufferb so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain? 5Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith— 6just as Abraham “believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”?

7Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. 8And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justifyc the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “In you shall all the nations be blessed.” 9So then, those who are of faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

The Righteous Shall Live by Faith
10For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” 11Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.”d 12But the law is not of faith, rather “The one who does them shall live by them.” 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”— 14so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirite through faith.

The Law and the Promise
15To give a human example, brothers:f even with a man-made covenant, no one annuls it or adds to it once it has been ratified. 16Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ. 17This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. 18For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.

19Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made
 
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For some reason people hate God's Law (Rom 8:7). And if you really want to touch a nerve, the fourth Commandment is fightin' words.
yes, people hate God. including you (unless you are not people now).
only way to love God of course if you have been justified by the Holy Spirit, God himself.
 

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Who are you to say someone's belief is heresy. I do not believe any named theology because there should be no name of a man on any teaching that departs from the Word. Yet I do not say being Lutheran is heresy, although the man did post his own agenda on the door of St. Peter's.

I suppose it is heresy not to agree with you. You have made enough of your outlandish declarations, the "I will not tolerates" and the like. Share the Word if you understand it.

Nowhere does it say Jesus Christ is the Sabbath of God. He gives us rest from the heavy burdens of hypocrites, yes, this is written and taught.

To say Yeshua is the Sabbath of God, when you know sabbath is the word for rest, and not the word for the Sabbath of God giving us rest with Him from our six laboral days is a lie. It is taught nowhere in the Word.

I know I love you because I want you in heaven, but I cannot go along with your constant declarations of heresies. Have you read about the dog pack in miscellaneous? It would do you good. It is very familiar.

Always bear in mind if one is attempting to teach one's own agenda and not the Word as delivered by our Lord it is a real affront to the Blood of Yeshua.....
 
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