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ThomistColin said:
First, let me point out that in my other post on the justice of God, I did not mention that those who believe in Jesus Christ are not under the justice of God, for Jesus on the cross satisfied God's justice on their sin for them. So because God is just (Ro 3:26) does not mean that those in Christ are subject to it.
Now regarding my post above, don't you think, in light of the Scriptures I presented there, that it would be more accurate to say I like seeing the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit in the way they are presented in the word of God?
For instance, don't you know also that Muslims believe their Mohammad is the Comforter promised by Jesus?
So let me ask you a precise question: Do you believe it is possible for two independent beings (or persons, if you like) be unified to the point they look as having one will and one power towards any outsider?
All I can say, Kerim, is that I prefer the Biblical presentation of the Holy Spirit above over any other presentation or explanation.
And that I do not give myself the authority, or the liberty, to alter it in any way, or to disbelieve it.
I see myself as sitting under the Scriptures, not over them.
Hope you make it through the night.
Elin
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That reminds me that in my other post on the justice of God, I did not mention that
those who believe in Jesus Christ are not under the justice of God,
for Jesus on the cross satisfied God's justice on their sin for them.
So because God is just (Ro 3:26) does not mean that those in Christ are subject to it.
Now regarding my post above, don't you think, in light of the Scriptures I presented there, that it would be more accurate to say I like seeing the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit in the way they are presented in the word of God?
All I can say, Kerim, is that I prefer the Biblical presentation of the Holy Spirit above over any other presentation or explanation.
And that I do not give myself the authority, or the liberty, to alter it in any way, or to disbelieve it.
I see myself as sitting under the Scriptures, not over them.
Hope you make it through the night.
Elin
Kerim said:
Hi Elin, It seems you like seeing God (the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost) as a mystery that has nothing in common in our life... other than wrath I guess
those who believe in Jesus Christ are not under the justice of God,
for Jesus on the cross satisfied God's justice on their sin for them.
So because God is just (Ro 3:26) does not mean that those in Christ are subject to it.
Now regarding my post above, don't you think, in light of the Scriptures I presented there, that it would be more accurate to say I like seeing the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit in the way they are presented in the word of God?
For instance, don't you know also that Muslims believe their Mohammad is the Comforter promised by Jesus?
So let me ask you a precise question: Do you believe it is possible for two independent beings (or persons, if you like) be unified to the point they look as having one will and one power towards any outsider?
And that I do not give myself the authority, or the liberty, to alter it in any way, or to disbelieve it.
I see myself as sitting under the Scriptures, not over them.
Hope you make it through the night.
Elin
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EDIT:
First, let me point out that in my other post on the justice of God, I did not mention that those who believe in Jesus Christ are not under the justice of God, for Jesus on the cross satisfied God's justice on their sin for them. So because God is just (Ro 3:26) does not mean that those in Christ are subject to it.
Now regarding my post above, don't you think, in light of the Scriptures I presented there, that it would be more accurate to say I like seeing the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit in the way they are presented in the word of God?
All I can say, Kerim, is that I prefer the Biblical presentation of the Holy Spirit above over any other presentation or explanation.
And that I do not give myself the authority, or the liberty, to alter it in any way, or to disbelieve it.
I see myself as sitting under the Scriptures, not over them.
Hope you make it through the night.
Elin
Hi Elin, It seems you like seeing God (the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost) as a mystery that has nothing in common in our life... other than wrath I guess
First, let me point out that in my other post on the justice of God, I did not mention that those who believe in Jesus Christ are not under the justice of God, for Jesus on the cross satisfied God's justice on their sin for them. So because God is just (Ro 3:26) does not mean that those in Christ are subject to it.
Now regarding my post above, don't you think, in light of the Scriptures I presented there, that it would be more accurate to say I like seeing the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit in the way they are presented in the word of God?
All I can say, Kerim, is that I prefer the Biblical presentation of the Holy Spirit above over any other presentation or explanation.
And that I do not give myself the authority, or the liberty, to alter it in any way, or to disbelieve it.
I see myself as sitting under the Scriptures, not over them.
Hope you make it through the night.
Elin
Hi Elin, It seems you like seeing God (the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost) as a mystery that has nothing in common in our life... other than wrath I guess
Yes, particularly with the New Testament as the full expression of God's revelation, the Scriptures are our guide and authority, right?
Blessings.
There works of the law, and there are the catholic works, Then there is Faith works. [Or actions], Faith is an act.
Bartimaeus put works [Actions] to his faith when he cast away he garment, which was his licence to beg.
The ten lepers put actions to their faith by going to the priest.
Then there are the works of Jesus, That He said we would do.
Now CX, What on earth is your proof for all that?
How do you know that what he posted is incorrect?
And since no one can obey the law perfectly (Dt 27:26), "all those under the law are cursed" (Gal 3:10).
So God gave righteousness as a gift (Ro 5:17) to those who are in Christ through faith, by free grace (Eph 2:8-9).
Rom 2:13 says nothing to contradict that.
How do you know that what he posted is incorrect?
And since no one can obey the law perfectly (Dt 27:26), "all those under the law are cursed" (Gal 3:10).
So God gave righteousness as a gift (Ro 5:17) to those who are in Christ through faith, by free grace (Eph 2:8-9).
Rom 2:13 says nothing to contradict that.