Contradiction of WORDS
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[SUP]46 [/SUP]And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
[SUP]47 [/SUP]And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
[SUP]48 [/SUP]And ye are witnesses of these things.
[SUP]49 [/SUP]And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
you teach no repentance and no remission of sins....
[SUP]38 [/SUP]Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
[SUP]47 [/SUP]And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
[SUP]48 [/SUP]And ye are witnesses of these things.
[SUP]49 [/SUP]And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
you teach no repentance and no remission of sins....
[SUP]38 [/SUP]Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
the difference between jew s and gentiles around 32 ad for pentecost, all jewish , no gentile present. (AT PENTECOST) , and around 48 ad acts 10 and 15 is 16 years on, did cornelius repent. what law is the gentile to repent of.
blindness to past-present- future. and to 70 ad . religions/sect etc , answer to its own blindness.
dates and facts answer to the truth and change via new covenant. etc
blindness to past-present- future. and to 70 ad . religions/sect etc , answer to its own blindness.
dates and facts answer to the truth and change via new covenant. etc
Romans 3:9
What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
God looks at Jew and Gentile as one there is no difference ...you are not repenting from the law but from your evil ways...
Romans 10:11-13King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Luke 15:10
Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.
What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
God looks at Jew and Gentile as one there is no difference ...you are not repenting from the law but from your evil ways...
Romans 10:11-13King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Luke 15:10
Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.
The Holy Spirit Falls on the Gentiles
44 While Peter was still saying these things, the Holy Spirit fell on all who heard the word.45 And the believers from among the circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out even on the Gentiles.
around 48 ad . try and keep up.
28 And he said to them, "You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit anyone of another nation, but God has shown me that I should not call any person common or unclean.act 10
who told the gentile the full law of moses.
given this 48 ad. when jesus is back in heaven.
44 While Peter was still saying these things, the Holy Spirit fell on all who heard the word.45 And the believers from among the circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out even on the Gentiles.
around 48 ad . try and keep up.
28 And he said to them, "You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit anyone of another nation, but God has shown me that I should not call any person common or unclean.act 10
who told the gentile the full law of moses.
given this 48 ad. when jesus is back in heaven.
so where do you think those epistles came from?....they wrote letters and circulated them to all the churches....it is those letters that make up the NT....
2 Peter 3:15-17King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
[SUP]16 [/SUP]As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
2 Peter 3:15-17King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
[SUP]16 [/SUP]As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
WOW did you guys know that both of these statements are in the same Bible?
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
(Romans 6:1-2)
repentance ↑
So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth,
but of God that sheweth mercy.
(Romans 9:16)
remission of sins ↑
does those verses nullify these or do they say the same?[SUP]46 [/SUP]And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
[SUP]47 [/SUP]And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
[SUP]48 [/SUP]And ye are witnesses of these things.
[SUP]49 [/SUP]And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
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[SUP]38 [/SUP]Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
[SUP]47 [/SUP]And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
[SUP]48 [/SUP]And ye are witnesses of these things.
[SUP]49 [/SUP]And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
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[SUP]38 [/SUP]Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
they are one and the same gospel, the same that teaches that it is faith, not works, that commend us to God, and that it is God who has chosen us, not us who have chosen God, and predestined us to adoption and preordained us to good works, not us who by doing good & obedient works earn the promise.
i was hoping it might help us see that it is false to assume that because someone asserts that it is God and God alone who is responsible for our salvation, and not our obedient reply to Him, that they "teach no repentance or remission of sins"
i want you to know that it is for the glory of the One who is the Author and Finisher of my faith that i say "Christ alone saves" and disagree that "ritual baptism saves."
it is also false to assume that i reject the commandment of God because i say H[SUB]2[/SUB]O baptism was made for man, not man for H[SUB]2[/SUB]O baptism, and that Christ is Lord of circumcision, the Sabbath, and also of immersion. what i am doing by saying this is asserting that Christ is the only one worthy of glory.
i was hoping it might help us see that it is false to assume that because someone asserts that it is God and God alone who is responsible for our salvation, and not our obedient reply to Him, that they "teach no repentance or remission of sins"
i want you to know that it is for the glory of the One who is the Author and Finisher of my faith that i say "Christ alone saves" and disagree that "ritual baptism saves."
it is also false to assume that i reject the commandment of God because i say H[SUB]2[/SUB]O baptism was made for man, not man for H[SUB]2[/SUB]O baptism, and that Christ is Lord of circumcision, the Sabbath, and also of immersion. what i am doing by saying this is asserting that Christ is the only one worthy of glory.